Not pointing any fingers at anybody in particular, but there are many people here who pretend to engage honestly/genuine while simultaneously operating this way: going about story/lore discussion while being purposely ignorant to established facts within the story/lore. Many such cases happen on the Lore sub-forum and most of the offenders have been banned or just don't post anymore.
There is a fine line of wishful hoping and sharing one's headcanon about things yet to happen or hoping to happen... and arguing it an established fact.
I would recommend you simply call out those who engage in bad faith, and let the rest take notice. You kind of lose the soul of the discussion if you focus too much on the semantics of possible outcomes.
Last edited by KOUNTERPARTS; 2025-01-20 at 08:54 PM.
Well, the crystal is big, much bigger than any naarus we've seen before, it looks very special and much more powerful. Let me explain.
Cosmic forces are trying to take over Azeroth somehow, right? Dimensius, a void lord, attacked K'aresh himself. Zovaal directly attacked the worldsoul, and the Titans are also trying to get their hands on it.
The question is, why? To gain the upper hand in the eternal war of balance of power, presumably.
If you've noticed, they're always pantheons. The Light probably also tried to take over the worldsoul at one time, perhaps even before the Black Empire existed. Maybe they came along afterwards, saw that the Light had already found Azeroth before them and went to war and won. Then came the Titans, and their own era arrived.
But then, what is Beledar? If there was an era of Light before the Void, it's possible that one of the pantheon members tried to influence the worldsoul to enter our physical plane. And that would be Beledar.
They likely don't want to spoil something, as with a direct year number, we can pinpoint some events. And given that the next expansion and their reni'lash will happen around the sunwell, the place were something happend 15 years ago too, that involved the first real Void being on Azeroth (M'uru fall to Entropius), and subsequently a huge influx of light and arcane for the elves (M'urus cleansed core in the sunwell), could have stirred the arathi empire, as they are of the high elven lineage too.
All this crystal talk just makes me think playable Artificers are on their way.
Hot take:
Southern Kalimdor is heavily influenced by the proximity of Khaz Algar.
- Thorns and a generally primordial eco-system because of Elun'ahir (we'll find dinosaurs and quillboars in the "rootlands").
- Freya experimented in Un'goro using crystal shards from below, testing their potency with influencing life.
- "Eonar's tears" is essentially a euphemism for the waters of the Well of Eternity coalescing around Un'goro and the region as a whole.
- It's a place bursting with life near an otherwise dead and desolate region due to its proximity to the Old Gods.
I noted the quills on the Haronir but you just made me realize the thorn aesthetic they have going for them, that's an interesting double-up. Would be a fun twist if they aren't just Dark Trolls but Dark Trolls that bred with (friendly?) Quillboar. Would explain why they are fatter at least.
Also- I was expecting Dinosaurs because of the Hollow Earth and Caveman vibe (also that robot t-rex mount rig will definitely be reused for a real t-rex mount) but good call on it being a throwback to Un'goro.
Surely they're simply quilboar who underwent similar changes to trolls. Everyone seems a little bit too stuck on the idea that they have tusks, big ears, and African/Caribbean accents and therefore must be trolls. I think we're being introduced to convergent evolution due to Elune's influence to explain why night elves look like Cenarius.
I'm still not sold on the worldsoul being calcified planet essence. The crystal is not part of the manifold. Its not being monitored. There are no Earthern in Hallowfall, and the ones that were in the past, seemed to only want to trade. The path from Dornogal, through the ringing deeps, stops as it enters Hallowfall. Why? Was there just a big order to ignore giant worldsoul essence? We know exactly what it is and don't need anybody near it or anything? Bizarre.
I agree, I find it odd. But we already have the association with Cenarius, Aviana, and Aessina, not to mention several Wild Gods spawning humanoid races to begin with. For some reason Elune seems to be associated with elfification, maybe because of her relationship with other cosmic forces or maybe it's just her thing.
I think it's always been a bit ambiguous whether or not it was Arcane energy or something else that caused the Trolls to get slimmed down into Elves. The Wild Gods Viridiel mentioned are doing their own thing, considering Cenarius was helping the Tauren forever.
If Haranir are actually Quillboar and not just Evolved Dark Trolls then yeah I think it's a point towards "Elune makes creatures pink and humanoid"