The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[KOUNTERPARTS]

That would be an interesting development, if Odyn used his storm drakes to create the seemingly "impassible" storm of the Storming Seas in order to cut off parts of Azeroth. It is his M.O. after all (ie: Halls of Valor).

[Alanar]

It'd definitely be cool to see what Northrend was originally like

Going that far back, wouldn't this just be masses of ice and some proto dragons?

does seems fairly uninteresting. It wouldn't have all these cultures and races either.

[Worldshaper]

That would be an interesting development, if Odyn used his storm drakes to create the seemingly "impassible" storm of the Storming Seas in order to cut off parts of Azeroth. It is his M.O. after all (ie: Halls of Valor).

Seems like a pretty smart thing to do, too, when you know the 'heretics of Avaloren' (from his PoV) were likely waiting on the other side.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Seems like a pretty smart thing to do, too, when you know the 'heretics of Avaloren' (from his PoV) were likely waiting on the other side.

Which begs the question who the heretics are (or what they are) and what "crimes they committed" against the "Innaria and the other keepers."

I would imagine he is referring to the Arathi. Calling them heretics would imply they went against the titan's belief system and turned against the titanic keepers (and their followers) in favor of their own belief system/religion (the Sacred Flame) which will probably just end up being Order vs. Light.

[Worldshaper]

Which begs the question who the heretics are (or what they are) and what "crimes they committed" against the "Innaria and the other keepers."

I would imagine he is referring to the Arathi. Calling them heretics would imply they went against the titan's belief system and turned against the titanic keepers (and their followers) in favor of their own belief system/religion (the Sacred Flame) which will probably just end up being Order vs. Light.

I think that's probably correct, yeah. It's the simplest explanation based on what we know today, anyhow.

A secret 'war' of sorts between Light and Order would be pretty interesting as these two forces have traditionally both been seen as the good side of the cosmology, along with Life.

Maybe Odyn is just a massive prick and stole his powers all over the place. Powers of Light from the Beledar, dragons from Erinethria, powers over the storm from wherever. The Incarnates?

[Cheezits]

Which begs the question who the heretics are (or what they are) and what "crimes they committed" against the "Innaria and the other keepers."

I would imagine he is referring to the Arathi. Calling them heretics would imply they went against the titan's belief system and turned against the titanic keepers (and their followers) in favor of their own belief system/religion (the Sacred Flame) which will probably just end up being Order vs. Light.

Considering the Titans have been pretty pro-Light and seemingly align with their goal at times (one singular timeline, using holy powers, etc) you have to wonder why exactly the Arathi would be considered heretics. Maybe because they follow another aspect of Light that goes against the Titan mission.

That, or the Pantheon aren't actually pro-Light and it's mostly a Tyr thing. This may explain why there isn't a Light-themed Titan on the Pantheon. Could there be a rogue Light Titan who is working with the Arathi?

[huth]

I loved the Sholazar basin and the Wolvars who live there. I hope to see them again for TLT.

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With the advent of housing, is it finally time for an FPS view? The big problem is that WoW is... very ugly up close.

You have been able to zoom the camera in to first person since 2004.

[Worldshaper]

Considering the Titans have been pretty pro-Light and seemingly align with their goal at times (one singular timeline, using holy powers, etc) you have to wonder why exactly the Arathi would be considered heretics. Maybe because they follow another aspect of Light that goes against the Titan mission.

That, or the Pantheon aren't actually pro-Light and it's mostly a Tyr thing. This may explain why there isn't a Light-themed Titan on the Pantheon. Could there be a rogue Light Titan who is working with the Arathi?

Amitus making an appearance as a Titan of the Light would be super cool.

[Eldryth]

Going that far back, wouldn't this just be masses of ice and some proto dragons?

does seems fairly uninteresting. It wouldn't have all these cultures and races either.

Reorigination is supposed to restore the world back to the Titans' design, so it'd probably bring Northrend back to a time when it was filled with its native Titanforged races- Iron Vyrkul, Iron Dwarves, real Mechagnomes, etc.


On another note, apparently a Gamepass ad email mentioned WoW as one of its games. And listed Plunderstorm with a console icon. This is all secondhand info since I didn't seem to get the email myself, but maybe these are actual plans that they weren't meant to reveal yet?

[alex wolf]

Considering the Titans have been pretty pro-Light and seemingly align with their goal at times (one singular timeline, using holy powers, etc) you have to wonder why exactly the Arathi would be considered heretics. Maybe because they follow another aspect of Light that goes against the Titan mission.

That, or the Pantheon aren't actually pro-Light and it's mostly a Tyr thing. This may explain why there isn't a Light-themed Titan on the Pantheon. Could there be a rogue Light Titan who is working with the Arathi?

Maybe the Arathi are working with titan forged heretics who abandoned their orders and hate the titans now, perhaps they were involved in some part of the history of azeroth the titans were covering up and disagree with the cover up

Maybe soldiers who fought against the black empire or something

[Cheezits]

Reorigination is supposed to restore the world back to the Titans' design, so it'd probably bring Northrend back to a time when it was filled with its native Titanforged races- Iron Vyrkul, Iron Dwarves, real Mechagnomes, etc.


On another note, apparently a Gamepass ad email mentioned WoW as one of its games. And listed Plunderstorm with a console icon. This is all secondhand info since I didn't seem to get the email myself, but maybe these are actual plans that they weren't meant to reveal yet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...ames/#lightbox

Email in question here.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Maybe the Arathi are working with titan forged heretics who abandoned their orders and hate the titans now, perhaps they were involved in some part of the history of azeroth the titans were covering up and disagree with the cover up

Maybe soldiers who fought against the black empire or something

Hmmm, what if some titanic keepers also gained the same level of awareness à la the "thraegar" and left across the seas, found the Arathi, and helped the Arathi modernize? Utilizing titan technology/concepts but separate from the titan's edicts altogether? Maybe even overtly against the titans.

[Worldshaper]

Oh no, Game Pass just wrote MrGM on Twitter and told him the e-mail was a mistake.

Let's hope they're bluffing because it hasn't technically been announced yet? I mean how do you make a mistake like that when you have to put the graphic in and everything.

[Kiivar86]

Oh no, Game Pass just wrote MrGM on Twitter and told him the e-mail was a mistake.

Let's hope they're bluffing because it hasn't technically been announced yet? I mean how do you make a mistake like that when you have to put the graphic in and everything.

Intern or someone else is tasked with putting together a bunch of announcements, one of which is about the Plundestorm coming back. They accidentally put it together and send it off.

Seems a pretty simple mistake to me. Given also how they've been advertising WoW under the Xbox gaming umbrella anyway, just not Gamepass, I can see someone making a confused mistake.

[Worldshaper]

Intern or someone else is tasked with putting together a bunch of announcements, one of which is about the Plundestorm coming back. They accidentally put it together and send it off.

Seems a pretty simple mistake to me. Given also how they've been advertising WoW under the Xbox gaming umbrella anyway, just not Gamepass, I can see someone making a confused mistake.

But the e-mail is specifically about Game Pass, unless I'm mistaken. That's what the headline is about, anyway. If that's the case, why was WoW even on the radar for this person, in terms of the copy they had to work with, the images, etc.? Why was Plunderstorm even a topic for a Game Pass e-mail?

[huth]

Intern or someone else is tasked with putting together a bunch of announcements, one of which is about the Plundestorm coming back. They accidentally put it together and send it off.

Seems a pretty simple mistake to me. Given also how they've been advertising WoW under the Xbox gaming umbrella anyway, just not Gamepass, I can see someone making a confused mistake.

"Wait, are we talking Xbox the console or Xbox the brand here? Eh, it'll be fine..."

[Kiivar86]

But the e-mail is specifically about Game Pass, unless I'm mistaken. That's what the headline is about, anyway. If that's the case, why was WoW even on the radar for this person, in terms of the copy they had to work with, the images, etc.? Why was Plunderstorm even a topic for a Game Pass e-mail?

The email was about more than GamePass.

"Explore new seasonal content and special offers now" and includes a banner that has Game Pass alongside Accessories and XBox.

Its a general marketing email.

edit: The only real odd part is the console symbol next to the PC symbol for the Plunderstorm part but again, I can see that easily being a mistake.

"Wait, are we talking Xbox the console or Xbox the brand here? Eh, it'll be fine..."

Heh, given the stuff I see in my own job, that's pretty much it exactly, I imagine.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

You have been able to zoom the camera in to first person since 2004.

Zoom is not an FPS view mode with a crosshair and dedicated, adapted animations since 2004. I hope in turn to teach you something you already knew.

[Joshuaj]

Oh and on the topic of my An'she theory, didn't a tauren NPC in Season of Discovery suggest that light crystal in Alterac was a "tear of An'she"? That would be a not too subtle hint from Blizzard that other light-affiliated objects dropping from the sky might also be from An'she. Wink wink, nudge nudge, looking at you Beledar.

Hmm, I'm not so sure about THAT, however, if An'she is a Naaru, it would be interested to see how Naaru "cry", ya know what I mean?

[huth]

Zoom is not an FPS view mode with a crosshair and dedicated, adapted animations since 2004. I hope in turn to teach you something you already knew.

That's not an FPS view mode. That's FPS gameplay mode. You're not going to get that.