The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Worldshaper]

Hmm.

Good bits and bad bits, in this post!

- Love that there will be lots and lots of customisation.

- Love that you can unlock a bunch of stuff in-game, but also some special items via the Shop.

- Love that there will be stuff from a bunch of expansions and different themes.

- Love that I'll be able to have a house around Elwynn forest.

- Love that it's accessible for my Warband.

That said, not so sure about the seemingly instanced "neighbourhoods," and the absolute lack of variety in terms of where to place your house.

If turning the neighbourhood private means you can use your house without other players nearby, then that solves one issue. I don't want LegolassXxLols jumping around my garden or BigDaddy57 dueling outside my window. I want my house to be private and immersive.

But the lack of variety is a bigger issue. What about players who want to live in a witch's hut in a swap someplace, or players who love Gilneas, or mountains, or specifically the Valley of the Four Winds? Are they meant to be homogenised into "Hooman Alliance"? Sure, it might be possible a couple of years down the line, but I think it's going to end up disappointing a lot of people in Midnight.

[Joshuaj]

It's gonna be rough wanting to live in like a nice immersive neighborhood and then having some meme neighbor who paints their house bright purple and slaps all the dumbest decorations on the outside.

That's why private Neighborhoods exist. Though, I would like the option of being able to make your own house without any neighbors lol. However, Neighborhoods definitely make this place feel more like a world, ya know?

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Hmm.

Good bits and bad bits, in this post!

- Love that there will be lots and lots of customisation.

- Love that you can unlock a bunch of stuff in-game, but also some special items via the Shop.

- Love that there will be stuff from a bunch of expansions and different themes.

- Love that I'll be able to have a house around Elwynn forest.

- Love that it's accessible for my Warband.

That said, not so sure about the seemingly instanced "neighbourhoods," and the absolute lack of variety in terms of where to place your house.

If turning the neighbourhood private means you can use your house without other players nearby, then that solves one issue. I don't want LegolassXxLols jumping around my garden or BigDaddy57 dueling outside my window. I want my house to be private and immersive.

But the lack of variety is a bigger issue. What about players who want to live in a witch's hut in a swap someplace, or players who love Gilneas, or mountains, or specifically the Valley of the Four Winds? Are they meant to be homogenised into "Hooman Alliance"? Sure, it might be possible a couple of years down the line, but I think it's going to end up disappointing a lot of people in Midnight.

Your worries regarding house placement are solved in the literal article itself. More locations and housing options are gonna be made available throughout the coming patches/expansions.

[Sondrelk]

That's why private Neighborhoods exist. Though, I would like the option of being able to make your own house without any neighbors lol. However, Neighborhoods definitely make this place feel more like a world, ya know?

My fear is that the neighborhoods will end up looking too homogenic. A large plateau of identical houses, like we are in some hellish American suburbia.

[Joshuaj]

Yeah, that's the obvious issue with neighborhoods. Which is why I imagine most people will end up living in private guild areas.

100%. Most folks are gonna vibe in private Neighborhoods.

[Xilurm]

This is a concept for the Durotar neighbourhood.



Something I'm really hoping for is that there's not going to be any "visible plots" when someone doesn't own one of the plots in there. Make it so it blends well with the terrain by having some kind of rock formation or a bunch of trees. Just how the Garrison place was filled with trees before you built it.

Basically I don't want this thing staring at me whenever I walk around the neighbourhood.

[Cheezits]

I will say something maybe controversial and ask that they may consider solo/private plots. I get that this may encourage community with forced hoods but yeah, I wouldn't mind a private area.

[Hitei]

That's why private Neighborhoods exist. Though, I would like the option of being able to make your own house without any neighbors lol. However, Neighborhoods definitely make this place feel more like a world, ya know?

Yeah but there's an in-between. I play with a guild of like ~7 real life friends, most of whom aren't active beyond the first 2-3 months of an expansion. So it's either live in a basically dead neighborhood or public.

[Joshuaj]

My fear is that the neighborhoods will end up looking too homogenic. A large plateau of identical houses, like we are in some hellish American suburbia.

More options will exist in future patches and expansions. Also, based off what I've seen leaked, you will likely be able to customize the outside of your house.

[Pyrophax]

2 zones are fine for start. Same as Heritage armor was dealt.

My main issue - how that Neighborhood feature will be dealt. If I wanna house near waterfall (for example) and the place is taken? New shard?

And if I wanna exchange places with friend and don't loose my other Neighbors?

How much private Neighborhood will be "private"? Can I start with my own, for my alts only?
If I have like 5-6 human characters - can I buy house for each one of them?

Why should I use public Neighborhood?

Can Neighborhood kick one from them if they don't like that person?

Can I move my house to different Neighborhood or even different place?

Questions, questions. But I love that feature for sure. At least part of Durotar and Elwin Forest wil be updated!

And according to concept - Durotar one located near port, east mountains near Orgrimmar. Right now its barren rocks. Glad it will be updated.
Human one is quite a place, where Westfall, Duskwood and Elwin Forest mixing. Updated Hogger camp?

[Joshuaj]

Yeah but there's an in-between. I play with a guild of like ~7 real life friends, most of whom aren't active beyond the first 2-3 months of an expansion. So it's either live in a basically dead neighborhood or public.

Yeah, like I said, hopefully they can make it to where you can buy a house without a Neighborhood.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

I'm extremely disappointed, I didn't want a neighborhood system... I didn't like the part where they said they didn't want to put houses all over the place to avoid separating people too much. Let me have my house in my own quiet corner, I don't want neighbors.

I don't get it. Are they revamping durotar and elwyn forest to fit these neighbourhoods, or are they in another dimension?

I understood that these would be instantiated zones, cut off from the world. I hope I'm wrong, otherwise I'll lose interest in housing.

[Joshuaj]

I will say something maybe controversial and ask that they may consider solo/private plots. I get that this may encourage community with forced hoods but yeah, I wouldn't mind a private area.

That's not controversial at all.

[Worldshaper]

That's why private Neighborhoods exist. Though, I would like the option of being able to make your own house without any neighbors lol. However, Neighborhoods definitely make this place feel more like a world, ya know?

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Your worries regarding house placement are solved in the literal article itself. More locations and housing options are gonna be made available throughout the coming patches/expansions.

And I literally acknowledged that part in my own post. The problem is that if/when it comes, it might be years from now for a lot of players.

I think the whole "players gotta huddle together and see each other constantly to make our world feel alive and bustling" is just wrong, and always has been wrong. It's the same old philosophy they use for expansions in general, when they ignore old continents and force everyone into endgame content on the newest one.

[Joshuaj]

I'm extremely disappointed, I didn't want a neighborhood system... I didn't like the part where they said they didn't want to put houses all over the place to avoid separating people too much. Let me have my house in my own quiet corner, I don't want neighbors.



I understood that these would be instantiated zones, cut off from the world. I hope I'm wrong, otherwise I'll lose interest in housing.

It'll likely be instanced in the sense that TWW Zones are "instanced", or how Midnight Silvermoon will be "instanced". Seamless tech.

[Cheezits]

They also need to deal with the fact that RP characters are going to get a lot of shit if they are forced to house with normal server players lol.

If their idea is to encourage community by not doing private solo apartments, I am fine with it and encourage it. Just have to make it so others can't troll.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Just because it's instanced doesn't mean you can smoothly transit to it. Garrisons were also instanced but part of the open world, remember?

Okay, but how do you add these modern zones to the ugly old world? Its... weird, no ?

[Joshuaj]

Yeah but there's an in-between. I play with a guild of like ~7 real life friends, most of whom aren't active beyond the first 2-3 months of an expansion. So it's either live in a basically dead neighborhood or public.

Tbf here, ain't that a similar case IRL regarding neighborhoods? With some being very active and others being, well, not as active?

[Cheezits]

Okay, but how do you add these modern zones to the ugly old world? Its... weird, no ?

Durotar/Azshara and Elwynn/Duskwood/Westfall will get revamped OR yeah it's just portals.

The very idea of a Quelthalas expansion runs into this problem so they may have an idea.

[Joshuaj]

Okay, but how do you add these modern zones to the ugly old world? Its... weird, no ?

The same way you'll fly from the ugly asf Eastern Plaguelands to the new, massive revamped Quel'thalas next expac. Seamless transitioning!

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Durotar/Azshara and Elwynn/Duskwood/Westfall will get revamped OR yeah it's just portals.

Seamless. Technology.

The answer is right there, my dudes!

[Hitei]

Yeah, like I said, hopefully they can make it to where you can buy a house without a Neighborhood.

Nah, you misunderstand. I like the idea of a neighborhood conceptually. My complaint is that because I am not in a large guild, it has to be a public neighborhood, and a public neighborhood is just a complete dice roll.