The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Unless we go back to the Legion approach of extremely staggered raid releases it cannot realistically be the end of the story.

I really liked that schedule story wise. It helped built the story better.

[Dracullus]

I really liked that schedule story wise. It helped built the story better.

Only time it really worked was Nighthold. We got lot of Suramar story in launch, then 7.1 added new chapter every week and Nighthold launched very soon after it concluded. Argus wasn't that good - we had 2/3 weeks story in August and then long wait until November for raid to launch. And I don't want start with Tomb of Sargeras.

And this schedule doesn't really work with current patch cycle where we don't have shorter launch raid and every season length is even.

Another really good build up was Uldir, of course if you played Horde. Whole leveling experience culminated in raid.

[rainhard]

Who do you guys think will be final boss of the war within?
I personally see 2 posibilities either xal'atath or a corrupted character we know of (maybe alleria maybe not, or maybe orweyna if we remain in the "within"), in the scenario we fight xal'atath im really interested in how we will force her to fight us considering she can always teleport out whenever she feels like it, perhaps the raid fight will have teleportation dampeners and the mechanics will revolve around those and the unseeming mechanic, phasing in and out. In case we fight the corrupted character it will obv be more themed off of them.

[Foolicious]

Who do you guys think will be final boss of the war within?

I think Xalatath or some world soul manifestation controlled by xalatath (similar to argus) are very likely. If not, some ethereal prince or king related to ky'veza. Maybe even Azir, but its hard to tell if he will be a significant enough character going into the next patch.

[Dracullus]

If Ethereals want to save/restore their planet using Azeroth soul and work against Xalatath, maybe just Locus Walker will betray us and turn out to be their leader?

[Joshuaj]

Who do you guys think will be final boss of the war within?
I personally see 2 posibilities either xal'atath or a corrupted character we know of (maybe alleria maybe not, or maybe orweyna if we remain in the "within"), in the scenario we fight xal'atath im really interested in how we will force her to fight us considering she can always teleport out whenever she feels like it, perhaps the raid fight will have teleportation dampeners and the mechanics will revolve around those and the unseeming mechanic, phasing in and out. In case we fight the corrupted character it will obv be more themed off of them.

At this rate? I have 3 options:

1. Xal'atath (We defeat her, but she doesn't die and escapes)

2. Alleria (Something happens and she basically goes mad in her quest to stop Xal'atath. Dimensius has her in his grasp, essentially. This would also result in Xal'atath escaping)

Or 3. Some unknown character (Basically, Blizzard pulls an Argus and has us fight someone unique or new. Whether it be an Ethereal, a stronger entity, or something like that, idk).

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

11.1.5 truly feels low effort. expected more from nightfall and the "revisited" horrific visions

I feel like people should just recognize this expansion wasn't meant to exist. Lets see if they can do better with a full production expansion with Midnight. At least there's no more dumb excuses like there was in the previous expansions and The War Within.

Who do you guys think will be final boss of the war within?
I personally see 2 posibilities either xal'atath or a corrupted character we know of (maybe alleria maybe not, or maybe orweyna if we remain in the "within"), in the scenario we fight xal'atath im really interested in how we will force her to fight us considering she can always teleport out whenever she feels like it, perhaps the raid fight will have teleportation dampeners and the mechanics will revolve around those and the unseeming mechanic, phasing in and out. In case we fight the corrupted character it will obv be more themed off of them.

I feel the only person that fits the Expansion title for this type of scenario would be Alleria at this point. (especially with the weird context of "lol I have a ace that I will use on you later, bwahahahaha" logic regarding her character) Ultimately until we get the actual setting it is hard to pinpoint how and also Xal'atath is such a whacky character since she's 0-2 right now after finally getting the front seat. So its unclear if she even makes it to K'aresh and if she is able to void enhance Alleria to the point she turns into a void ranger (xD).

Its' hard though because maybe if K'aresh is the endpoint the "War Within" is supposed to be a reference back to the original War on K'aresh and Dimensius, then again its just a expansion title and in the end the whole "Battle for Azeroth" is actually a Unified Adventurers from Horde and Alliance fighting for Azeroth against the Old God N'zoth was more or less just a salvation move of competence rather than actual reality. So lol.

I doubt its Dimensius if they go the K'aresh route, I assume that Blizzard will at least have something of consequence happen at K'aresh. It feels likely that the Final Boss would constitute the immediate issue of "problems" that would happen afterwards into Midnight. (Then again, its fair to say that nothing ever happens anymore. So sure why not fight Dimensius. Fuck it, got nothing better to do.)

[Ersula]

If Ethereals want to save/restore their planet using Azeroth soul and work against Xalatath, maybe just Locus Walker will betray us and turn out to be their leader?

Which would be awesome if just for one patch Xalatath is our ally.

They are the canonical, in-game words said by a Blood Elf.

I think that elf is particularly hyperbolic because High Elves didn't have any contact with humans until about 1400 to 1200 years ago. The Formation of the original Arathi nation was less than 2000 years ago how the fuck were Silvermoon & Dalaran friends then if Dalaran didn't exist yet.

[Nymrohd]

I cannot see Alleria turning evil at this point mostly because doing that in the same expac you have Horrific Vision of Stormwind back would be insanely on the nose

[Joshuaj]

I cannot see Alleria turning evil at this point mostly because doing that in the same expac you have Horrific Vision of Stormwind back would be insanely on the nose

It's Warcraft. On the nose "foreshadowing" ain't really a new thing.

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But will Alleria going bad happen? Probably not.

[Cheezits]

To be honest, Alleria's new armor and graphical powerset would make sense if she is a raid boss. It would make more sense to be Xal, but if they want her to live a little longer like Gul'dan a corrupted Alleria would work. This would also allow them to shift focus to Vereesa a bit faster.

Or it's crazy Alleria and Xal flying around in the same boss fight like some kind of Crash Bandicoot boss.

[Joshuaj]

To be honest, Alleria's new armor and graphical powerset would make sense if she is a raid boss. It would make more sense to be Xal, but if they want her to live a little longer like Gul'dan a corrupted Alleria would work. This would also allow them to shift focus to Vereesa a bit faster.

Or it's crazy Alleria and Xal in the same boss fight like some kind of Crash Bandicoot boss.

Lmao love the Crash analogy.

[Cheezits]

Lmao love the Crash analogy.

It would both be very dark and a little funny if it was a crazed Alleria being enabled by Xal, but then Xal could assume direct control every now and then or during a phase change. It would be a creative way to give Xal a "heavy" to whack at instead of just is wailing on the floating corpse. The downside is it's very Shadowlandsy.

That or it's just Xal and she turns into a big munster as has been foreshadowed.

[Nymrohd]

To be honest, Alleria's new armor and graphical powerset would make sense if she is a raid boss. It would make more sense to be Xal, but if they want her to live a little longer like Gul'dan a corrupted Alleria would work. This would also allow them to shift focus to Vereesa a bit faster.

Or it's crazy Alleria and Xal flying around in the same boss fight like some kind of Crash Bandicoot boss.

I think Alleria going crazy makes more sense in Midnight where she will be around all her family.

[Joshuaj]

It would both be very dark and a little funny if it was a crazed Alleria being enabled by Xal, but then Xal could assume direct control every now and then or during a phase change. It would be a creative way to give Xal a "heavy" to whack at instead of just is wailing on the floating corpse. The downside is it's very Shadowlandsy.

That or it's just Xal and she turns into a big munster as has been foreshadowed.

How would it be Shadowlandsy? Cause a Void entity is controlling a Void Elf like a puppet?

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What do y'all think the next Housing article's gonna be about? Imma assume Exterior Design.

[Hitei]

I think that elf is particularly hyperbolic because High Elves didn't have any contact with humans until about 1400 to 1200 years ago. The Formation of the original Arathi nation was less than 2000 years ago how the fuck were Silvermoon & Dalaran friends then if Dalaran didn't exist yet.

Arathor allied with the High Elves 2800 years ago, right after the human unification, when they agreed to teach the humans magic in exchange for help against the Amani. Dalaran formed 2700 years ago. The Council of Tirisfal, formed in collaboration between Quel'thalas and Dalaran, formed 2680 years ago. So yes, he rounded. Down, from nearly 3000.

I don't get why you keep digging this hole deeper, or why you even care about future Blood Elf story direction to begin with if you don't follow or care about their existing story.

[Sondrelk]

Probably. But what I really want to find out is what features it'll have.

- Can we grow stuff, like the MoP farm and WoD garrison?
- Can our mounts, pets, and alts wander around the place?
- Will there be unique quest givers, traders and so on that visit once in a while?
- Will we be able tp construct some kind of portal to convenient travel to our main capital, or other locations?
- Will we be able to choose music like with the garrison jukebox?
- Will there be events, like the garrison invasions? For example, burglars and other attackers?

It would be so cool if we could customise different rooms for different alts. Books, herbs, potions, etc. for the Druid's quarters!

I am going to assume no on most of that. Adding actual benefits to maintaining it means they need to actually balance it. Unless the garden is just cosmetic they shouldn't let you grow anything there.

The fact the house will be near Stormwind and Orgrimmar, to me at least, means it doesn't need portals or anything. It's close enough to the portal rooms anyways. The Hearthstone we likely get there is already plenty.


Music and mounts is a good one though. I loved collecting the music discs back in WoD. And hopefully they can carry them over, as well as adding new ones. I light not have the house in Boralus of my hopes and dreams, but at least I can hope for the Boralus tavern music while I am there.
Mounts I would be surprised if they didn't let us show off. The concept art literally had the gryphon coop right there next to the house.

[Joshuaj]

Probably. But what I really want to find out is what features it'll have.

- Can we grow stuff, like the MoP farm and WoD garrison?
- Can our mounts, pets, and alts wander around the place?
- Will there be unique quest givers, traders and so on that visit once in a while?
- Will we be able tp construct some kind of portal to convenient travel to our main capital, or other locations?
- Will we be able to choose music like with the garrison jukebox?
- Will there be events, like the garrison invasions? For example, burglars and other attackers?

It would be so cool if we could customise different rooms for different alts. Books, herbs, potions, etc. for the Druid's quarters!

1. Depends on if we can make our house a farm or not.

2. Dunno, but we do know a stable is at least planned (This also might mean garages btw).

3. Possibly. Wouldn't be shocked if there was a town trader or summ.

4. There might be portals? Idk tho. It's possible towns might require you to enter it or leave it manually. However, if you can make a mage tower for a house, portals might come in handy.

5. Would love this. Hoping we get a jukebox, radio, or boombox for our houses.

6. Possibly, though I imagine they'll be fun events that won't actually affect your house.

And regarding your last point, that might be possible, as houses are made for warbands.

[milkmustache]

Probably. But what I really want to find out is what features it'll have.

- Can we grow stuff, like the MoP farm and WoD garrison?
- Can our mounts, pets, and alts wander around the place?
- Will there be unique quest givers, traders and so on that visit once in a while?
- Will we be able tp construct some kind of portal to convenient travel to our main capital, or other locations?
- Will we be able to choose music like with the garrison jukebox?
- Will there be events, like the garrison invasions? For example, burglars and other attackers?

It would be so cool if we could customise different rooms for different alts. Books, herbs, potions, etc. for the Druid's quarters!

I have to imagine things like portals and profession gathering may be avoided due to the same issues that they had with Garrisons. My assumption is that anything that would be gathered/quested/etc inside the neighborhoods would feed back into whatever sort of currency or resource is used for the housing system in order to keep it a self sustained environment. Just guessing based off of previous fears with housing from Blizzard's part.

[Limayria]

Probably. But what I really want to find out is what features it'll have.

- Can we grow stuff, like the MoP farm and WoD garrison?
- Can our mounts, pets, and alts wander around the place?
- Will there be unique quest givers, traders and so on that visit once in a while?
- Will we be able tp construct some kind of portal to convenient travel to our main capital, or other locations?
- Will we be able to choose music like with the garrison jukebox?
- Will there be events, like the garrison invasions? For example, burglars and other attackers?

It would be so cool if we could customise different rooms for different alts. Books, herbs, potions, etc. for the Druid's quarters!

possibly legacy content herbs but probably just cosmetic plants and such

mounts and pets likely alts might be relegated to a warband screen

i dont think quest or traders will be in the initial implementation

the most portaling i can imagine is a portal that takes you to your factions portal room

music id put at 99% odds

events will likely just be holidays and stuff, perhaps with an expansion of micro holidays that are housing focused, I really doubt we'll have freaking home invasions in housing