The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makabreska]

I'm sure they can think speed up mechanics, like killing a pack gives you "speed loa buff"

Or they can just use a different, standard dungeon and cause themselves less work and issues. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Black Rider]

Or they can just use a different, standard dungeon and cause themselves less work and issues. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There is no "less work" with any old dungeons.
And doesn't attract players.
Players already hate SL dungeons and Mechagon was bought back three times.
Players need different ones.

[Makabreska]

There is no "less work" with any old dungeons.
And doesn't attract players.
Players already hate SL dungeons and Mechagon was bought back three times.
Players need different ones.

There is DEFINITELY more work older dungeons. Go and check the number of changes Grim Batol received with new and updated trashes and bosses compared to Necrotic Wake. Claiming otherwise means you never stepped into them.

Also, please don't speak for the playerbase wants/needs. It doesn't work like that.

[Nymrohd]

There is DEFINITELY more work older dungeons. Go and check the number of changes Grim Batol received with new and updated trashes and bosses compared to Necrotic Wake. Claiming otherwise means you never stepped into them.

Also, please don't speak for the playerbase wants/needs. It doesn't work like that.

Sure there is. But Blizzard has been revamping old dungeons consistently and will likely keep doing so. Why not Zul'Gurub?

[Ersula]

Sure there is. But Blizzard has been revamping old dungeons consistently and will likely keep doing so. Why not Zul'Gurub?

We haven't revamped an old dungeon since MoP actually, but making the Wrath version Mythic compliant is probably coming within the saga.

[Nymrohd]

We haven't revamped an old dungeon since MoP actually, but making the Wrath version Mythic compliant is probably coming within the saga.

I'd count completely changing the trash packs as revamping. What MoP did was reuse dungeons to tell a new story imo.

[Sondrelk]

We haven't revamped an old dungeon since MoP actually, but making the Wrath version Mythic compliant is probably coming within the saga.

Didnt they remake Blackfathom Depths during WoD? I know the last boss was updated at least.

[Nymrohd]

Didnt they remake Blackfathom Depths during WoD? I know the last boss was updated at least.

And UBRS. And we got BRD a few months ago

[Ersula]

And UBRS. And we got BRD a few months ago

We're talking about retail.

[Sondrelk]

Yeah, I imagine actual ZA will be a questing sub-region (probably extended out to the east). But there will probably be a new troll dungeon, "Amani Crypts" or something.

Personal hopes would be an Amani raid. With the dedicated Troll dungeon being in the city in the Hinterlands. You could really make that one amazing with some updates to it.

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We're talking about retail.

So are we. Upper Blackrock Spire was a dungeon in WoD. And Blackrock Depths was a raid in the Anniversary event.

[Cheezits]

I don't think we're going to get a troll raid in 2025, good luck with "invade a troll city and kill them all lol" in this day and age.

[Nymrohd]

I don't think we're going to get a troll raid in 2025, good luck with "invade a troll city and kill them all lol" in this day and age.

The crypts with Kithix's corpse make sense as a troll raid. Maybe void corrupted trolls?

[Cheezits]

The crypts with Kithix's corpse make sense as a troll raid. Maybe void corrupted trolls?

I think it's Kthix's burial site makes sense but there's going to have to be some visual twist to keep it from being Uldir but purple, hopefully just a lack of Titanshit so that its the first real HD "troll temple" raid. Maybe Sunken Temple inspired.

[Sondrelk]

I think it's Kthix's burial site makes sense but there's going to have to be some visual twist to keep it from being Uldir but purple, hopefully just a lack of Titanshit so that its the first real HD "troll temple" raid. Maybe Sunken Temple inspired.

Don't see why it would be. Uldir was a titan facility. Kithix is just in a regular Troll burial mound.

[Makabreska]

I could maybe see ZG/ZA in M+, but only in Midnight, where it would actually make sense (provided trolls will be a major threat in S1/S2).

[Cheezits]

I could maybe see ZG/ZA in M+, but only in Midnight, where it would actually make sense (provided trolls will be a major threat in S1/S2).

I can't see them lasting past S1 especially when the Amani overall will probably be allies. Probably have to stop Kithix from being rezzed before heading to the Sunwell, and HOPEFULLY a trip to Stratholme/Deatholme/the two combined as well.

HD Troll temple and Stratholme would be so good for a mega expansion like they are building Midnight to be. And if you want to get conspiracist that could be why all of Stratholme was added to classic TW.

[Makabreska]

I can't see them lasting past S1 especially when the Amani overall will probably be allies. Probably have to stop Kithix from being rezzed before heading to the Sunwell, and HOPEFULLY a trip to Stratholme/Deatholme/the two combined as well.

HD Troll temple and Stratholme would be so good for a mega expansion like they are building Midnight to be.

Not really buying Amani being allies, considering we sacked their capital TWICE.

Also, what mega expansion? Let's not overhype ourselves and forget that Blizz barely release their expansions on time. Not sure what is mega about Midnight and why would they try to make a trilogy middle expansion into something like that.

[Nymrohd]

Not really buying Amani being allies, considering we sacked their capital TWICE.

Also, what mega expansion? Let's not overhype ourselves and forget that Blizz barely release their expansions on time. Not sure what is mega about Midnight and why would they try to make a trilogy middle expansion into something like that.

The Revantusk are still members of the Horde.

[Ersula]

Not really buying Amani being allies, considering we sacked their capital TWICE.

Also, what mega expansion? Let's not overhype ourselves and forget that Blizz barely release their expansions on time. Not sure what is mega about Midnight and why would try to make a trilogy middle expansion into something like that.

This is true. At best, Midnight's development is resembling Legion, but you have to take production commentary with a grain of salt. Overhyping & Underdelivery is standard, especially for the gaming industry. And I think people forget production are free to lie to the public about anything & everything besides the actual physical product. The only people who get something resembling the real story are the investors.

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The Revantusk are still members of the Horde.

That would suggest they are no longer part of the Amani empire then. Amani is an empire. Genetically, they are Forest trolls which the Darkspear already includes. Darkspear are a combination of other varieties of troll.

[Joshuaj]

Not really buying Amani being allies, considering we sacked their capital TWICE.

Also, what mega expansion? Let's not overhype ourselves and forget that Blizz barely release their expansions on time. Not sure what is mega about Midnight and why would they try to make a trilogy middle expansion into something like that.

While I agree that "mega expansion" is a big much, it being a "middle of the trilogy" expansion doesn't negate the idea that Blizzard would want to go all out on it. It IS the expansion where we're battling the Void's all out assault on Azeroth, after-all. And considering it's likely gonna end with Renilash (And potentially us going to the ruins of K'aresh), it's much bigger than people think.

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Heck, every expac from here on out is likely gonna be big in some way. Both grounded and cosmic.