The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

It would be a bit weird if haranir don't get added but its possible they might just be a hold over from whatever TWW was originally supposed to be and they just have no interest in pursuing whatever their story is/was.

People have been expecting every race introduced to be an AR since the AR concept was introduced. Sethrak, Covenant races (yikes), Tuskar

[Makorus]

Dark Iron were the "Earthen" of the Dwarves.

And then the Earthen were the "Earthen" of the Dwarves.

And one day, some other sub-species of Dwarf will be the "Earthen" of Dwarves.

Let's all face the facts here: Blizzard are not shy of adding multiple varieties of the same race, if they think it fits the story. Especially if they think it'll help boost sales.

No, Earthen are Dwarves for the Horde.

Void Elves are High Elves for the Alliance.

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People have been expecting every race introduced to be an AR since the AR concept was introduced. Sethrak, Covenant races (yikes), Tuskar

I mean, Haranir literally have proper customization options and can wear armour, and every single race that had that was added as an Allied Race. People kept going on about how everyone was overthinking Vulpera, and overthinking Mechagnomes, but surprise surprise. Meanwhile, Tuskarr, who are just as prevalent as Vulpera (if not more so), didn't have proper customisation option, nor could wear armour.

[Worldshaper]

Any ideas on why the Midnight logo looks like it has shattered glass arounnd it? Is it meant to represent the Dark Heart being shattered, or the Titans' grip on the worldsoul being shattered, or what?

[Khaza-R]

I mean, Haranir literally have proper customization options and can wear armour, and every single race that had that was added as an Allied Race. People kept going on about how everyone was overthinking Vulpera, and overthinking Mechagnomes, but surprise surprise. Meanwhile, Tuskarr, who are just as prevalent as Vulpera (if not more so), didn't have proper customisation option, nor could wear armour.

This is true.

Like I said, I think if they weren't added at this point its because they just don't want to continue their story or write them a new one. Every new AR is somewhat of a commitment they make to continue that races story. Even if its only a tiny bit here and there. So I guesss its really just a question of if we will see the rootlands at all in 11.2 or was it completely ditched?

[Nymrohd]

I mean, Haranir literally have proper customization options and can wear armour, and every single race that had that was added as an Allied Race. People kept going on about how everyone was overthinking Vulpera, and overthinking Mechagnomes, but surprise surprise. Meanwhile, Tuskarr, who are just as prevalent as Vulpera (if not more so), didn't have proper customisation option, nor could wear armour.

Wait, I am pretty sure Tuskarr can wear armor? Not all slots but they can wear most. I guess it's similar to naga but since mechagnomes (and far worse with Dracthyr) it felt like wearing everything was no longer important.

[Monkal]

I mean, its not impossible that they've shifted that storyline to Midnight or TWW or even outside this saga, but I doubt it.

[Enrif]

Any ideas on why the Midnight logo looks like it has shattered glass arounnd it? Is it meant to represent the Dark Heart being shattered, or the Titans' grip on the worldsoul being shattered, or what?

It is a common style for cosmic void that was established during DF, it can also be seen in the void elf racial that got it in the 11.0.7 patch


As for why shattered glass: It is likely to reflect the shattering of reality, and the infinite time ways they see, each a possible reflection.

[Holdodlig]

Something I've noticed with the shop toy, but when you change into one of Zuldrak boss it now indicates that you're a frost troll. I knew it was showing vrykul and naga, but the frost troll stuff seems kind of new to me ? Is there a way to check when the race tag was added ?

[Cheezits]

Something I've noticed with the shop toy, but when you change into one of Zuldrak boss it now indicates that you're a frost troll. I knew it was showing vrykul and naga, but the frost troll stuff seems kind of new to me ? Is there a way to check when the race tag was added ?

It has been a race tag for a long while, AFAIK.

[Enrif]

can't tell you, but the wowhead modelviewer also lists ice troll under the NPC races. i'm sure in the past it only had forest troll. But the ice troll model looks old, certainly Wrath era

[Holdodlig]

It has been a race tag for a long while, AFAIK.

Seems weird. From what I've remembered, whenever you had a forest / frost troll morph, you were still considered as your own race. Seems pretty obvious those two troll races are going to be playable someday anyway.

[Worldshaper]

It is a common style for cosmic void that was established during DF, it can also be seen in the void elf racial that got it in the 11.0.7 patch


As for why shattered glass: It is likely to reflect the shattering of reality, and the infinite time ways they see, each a possible reflection.

Very informative, thanks.

[Raetary]

Any ideas on why the Midnight logo looks like it has shattered glass arounnd it? Is it meant to represent the Dark Heart being shattered, or the Titans' grip on the worldsoul being shattered, or what?

Because its the new cosmic void aesthetic, which has shattered glass as part of its style.

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[Enrif]

a new pet model was found on the wrath classic servers



a very strange dragon, that looks quite like a crocodile, with golden ornaments that remind me of either zandalari or lightforged.

Not sure what to make of it. It doesn't fit anything of the past expansions. Might be fitting for Amani? Or perhaps Avaloren/Arathi empire dragons that are an offshoot of green dragons?

[Dracullus]

I wonder how obvious will be 11.1.7 intro quests. This time there is no big event to spoil 11.2 sooner, so I hope they'll do better job than DF where we could guess underground patch and emerald dream from datamining alone, so hiding questlines from PTR was useless.

Still, 11.0.7 was far better, they used Orweyna and hide obvious datamining, so we weren't sure until Direct. So I hope for something similar, so we will see some Ethereals through datamining that won't give us more info we have today, on patch day we will be 99% sure what's next and 11.2 will be revealed same week.

[Worldshaper]

a new pet model was found on the wrath classic servers



a very strange dragon, that looks quite like a crocodile, with golden ornaments that remind me of either zandalari or lightforged.

Not sure what to make of it. It doesn't fit anything of the past expansions. Might be fitting for Amani? Or perhaps Avaloren/Arathi empire dragons that are an offshoot of green dragons?

Oh, this is interesting! Finally something silly to speculate about.

It does look like a young dragon of sorts, doesn't it? I almost get Elliot from Pete's Dragon vibes. Small, silly wings, wide eyes, sort of goofy.

If it's tied to WotLK Classic and China, those two are probably good clues. Are there any mythological creatures in Chinese culture that bring luck against the dead or something like that?

[Sondrelk]

a new pet model was found on the wrath classic servers



a very strange dragon, that looks quite like a crocodile, with golden ornaments that remind me of either zandalari or lightforged.

Not sure what to make of it. It doesn't fit anything of the past expansions. Might be fitting for Amani? Or perhaps Avaloren/Arathi empire dragons that are an offshoot of green dragons?

That is very intriguing indeed. I could see it both being a captured Avalorien dragon, or something native to Zul'Aman.
I want to say it being datamined on the Classic servers is a hint towards Season 8 of SoD. But it is definitely more likely something to do with Midnight. And assuming that, I would guess it's the pet you get from the Epic Edition of Midnight.

[alex wolf]

It's 50/50 on Haranir getting dropped for Ethereals or they are just marketing Karesh and Midnight very early because it's more hype than Rootlands.

Haranir in 11.2 Etherals in 12.0 prepatch >:3

[Cheezits]

a new pet model was found on the wrath classic servers



a very strange dragon, that looks quite like a crocodile, with golden ornaments that remind me of either zandalari or lightforged.

Not sure what to make of it. It doesn't fit anything of the past expansions. Might be fitting for Amani? Or perhaps Avaloren/Arathi empire dragons that are an offshoot of green dragons?

I'm thinking it's some kind of Amani creature and part of the preorder bonus for Midnight. They usually only do classic pets if it's for an expansion bundle or chinese new year.

Next year is Year of the Horse so it's probably not that.

[milkmustache]

a new pet model was found on the wrath classic servers



a very strange dragon, that looks quite like a crocodile, with golden ornaments that remind me of either zandalari or lightforged.

Not sure what to make of it. It doesn't fit anything of the past expansions. Might be fitting for Amani? Or perhaps Avaloren/Arathi empire dragons that are an offshoot of green dragons?

Love that we have zero hints as to what this could be. My gut says probably something geared towards the Chinese playerbase, but if we want to speculate...

This is some sort of crocodile and dragon mix. The ornaments on it feel very Zandalari. The golden marks on it are just as interesting. I truly have no idea what to make of this.

It being a green dragon like creature with golden decorations definitely makes it feel like it could be one of Erinithria's Brood that had been taken by the Arathi? Though it doesn't look like it was Arathi features.

I have no idea what this could be. I love it.