The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Was something happening on the 30th of June? That date has been in my head lately. Was it when we were thinking 11.2 would be revealed or come out?

June will end?

[Dracullus]

Was something happening on the 30th of June? That date has been in my head lately. Was it when we were thinking 11.2 would be revealed or come out?

You mean May? Nothing I'm aware of.

Next week are 2 conferences where there could be something from Blizzard: Summer Game Fest on Friday 6th and Xbox 8th. Last few years Blizzard always send something, although WoW appeared only once when they revealed TWW date.

If not next week, 11.2 will be revealed just around PTR launch, roughly ~8 weeks before it's launch. It could be before 11.1.7 only if it will be shorter patch, which is not impossible.

I expect all major stuff connected to 11.2 (patch, raid, race) done before Midnight "reveal", which most likely will happen on Gamescom 20th August. If we apply usual "8 week patch" rule, 10.1.7 lands on June 17th and 11.2 on August 12th - so even if raid starts day 1 on all difficulties (VERY unlikely), there is huge risk of race still going on through Gamescom.

So I see chance of current patch or next one being 1-2 week shorter. It would also make up for 11.0.7 being 2 weeks longer - and in DF, despite having slightly longer and shorter patches, averaged exactly on 8 weeks per patch.

[CopyX1982]

What happened to the Shadowy Figure from SoD?

The same thing that happened to the shadowy figure in amongst the Pandaria Remix vendors....

[Marlamin]

Reminder:

In the context of those guesses, would player housing come out with 11.2.7? They did announce it would be coming in 2025, after all.

Seeing we've seen some player housing stuff (tech and textures) appear on the 11.x branch, I personally think this -could- be in the cards similar to how we got the allied races shared skeleton tech during 7.x and allied races themselves during 7.3.5 even though they were a 8.x pre-order feature.

I can't help but feel given how they've been developing it that testing for player housing is going to be starting sooner rather than later vs. testing of the actual Midnight expansion itself, or they test it in Alpha/Beta and then release it on the 11.x branch for those that pre-ordered with it becoming an evergreen/freely available feature after launch.

[Nymrohd]

In the context of those guesses, would player housing come out with 11.2.7? They did announce it would be coming in 2025, after all.

Seeing we've seen some player housing stuff (tech and textures) appear on the 11.x branch, I personally think this -could- be in the cards similar to how we got the allied races shared skeleton tech during 7.x and allied races themselves during 7.3.5 even though they were a 8.x pre-order feature.

I can't help but feel given how they've been developing it that testing for player housing is going to be starting sooner rather than later vs. testing of the actual Midnight expansion itself, or they test it in Alpha/Beta and then release it on the 11.x branch for those that pre-ordered with it becoming an evergreen/freely available feature after launch.

I think player housing could get its own 11.2.9. They probably will want it before 12.0 but if they have features for 11.2.7 already or if they don't want to rush something a month earlier, they could just do an extra patch.

[Marlamin]

I think player housing could get its own 11.2.9

At that point they could just ship it with 12.0, I feel like. Not sure there's going to be any groundbreaking features that can break the game in Midnight as far as I can tell right now, so pre-patch could just largely be player housing.

[Dracullus]

In the context of those guesses, would player housing come out with 11.2.7? They did announce it would be coming in 2025, after all.

On roadmap housing is set for winter, and no winter date in 2025 make sense, imo roadmap simply extend to 2026 (it is even more clear from classic roadmap). Pre-patch just makes most sense, especially since we will be busy with Legion Remix in 11.2.7.

And of course I would expect housing to be tested from early alpha builds which should be.. September I guess? Recently Alpha/Beta last about 3-4 months.

[Lady Atia]

In the context of those guesses, would player housing come out with 11.2.7? They did announce it would be coming in 2025, after all.

Seeing we've seen some player housing stuff (tech and textures) appear on the 11.x branch, I personally think this -could- be in the cards similar to how we got the allied races shared skeleton tech during 7.x and allied races themselves during 7.3.5 even though they were a 8.x pre-order feature.

I can't help but feel given how they've been developing it that testing for player housing is going to be starting sooner rather than later vs. testing of the actual Midnight expansion itself, or they test it in Alpha/Beta and then release it on the 11.x branch for those that pre-ordered with it becoming an evergreen/freely available feature after launch.

My bet is on player housing on it's own PTR branch without any of the other Midnight updates (or simply with QT continent disabled which would be wonderful regarding datamining new armour sets, mounts etc haha).

It's defo something that should be tested en masse without it being locked behind the slow alpha/beta waves imo, especially if they want to release it ahead of the Expansion anyways.

[Dracullus]

My bet is on player housing on it's own PTR branch without any of the other Midnight updates (or simply with QT continent disabled which would be wonderful regarding datamining new armour sets, mounts etc haha).

It's defo something that should be tested en masse without it being locked behind the slow alpha/beta waves imo, especially if they want to release it ahead of the Expansion anyways.

Slow Beta waves? I think you forget about Beta for pre-order, TWW had so many people it was unplayable for days, and TWW didn't have anything close to housing as main feature.

[milkmustache]

Reminder: -snip-

While this tracks really well and seems to be correct for guessing, god I hope we get 11.2 news today or soon. S2 is finally a bit... boring.

[Darkarath]

While this tracks really well and seems to be correct for guessing, god I hope we get 11.2 news today or soon. S2 is finally a bit... boring.

I doubt that we would get 11.2 news this week, but I don't think that we should wait until June 25th. Hopefully we discover something in the events that are coming soon.

[Houle]

Dimensius is a pretty boring name, not going to lie.

Yeeeeah. Prolly bc he was just a little questing mob in TBC, until they retconned him into being more important.

[Nymrohd]

Well I don't think I can get to 8 masks this week. Multitude kicks my ass.

[Limayria]

In the context of those guesses, would player housing come out with 11.2.7? They did announce it would be coming in 2025, after all.

Seeing we've seen some player housing stuff (tech and textures) appear on the 11.x branch, I personally think this -could- be in the cards similar to how we got the allied races shared skeleton tech during 7.x and allied races themselves during 7.3.5 even though they were a 8.x pre-order feature.

I can't help but feel given how they've been developing it that testing for player housing is going to be starting sooner rather than later vs. testing of the actual Midnight expansion itself, or they test it in Alpha/Beta and then release it on the 11.x branch for those that pre-ordered with it becoming an evergreen/freely available feature after launch.

I think it's gonna be in 11.2.7 or whatever patch brings remix because it makes 0 sense to release a collection event for a fan favorite expansion and not include any housing related things in it imo and adding some stuff to the 11.X branch makes that seem even more likely to me, even if it's simply the tech for unlocking housing items rather than the full system being available, which would also allow players to collect their housing stuff from legion remix and then copy their account data to beta/house ptr/ whatever public test they do for housing while still collecting the stuff in their "real" account

[Marlamin]

That Trading Post Sunwell Bardiche though.

Going to have to take a closer look at that model...

[Foolicious]

That Trading Post Sunwell Bardiche though.

And a void version too? Its already a good month just for that.

Rip to all the people that bought the new bundle two weeks ago though. Every item in a better colour for free this month.

[Marlamin]

You think it's from "the future"?

Sure feels like it! <insert squidward_future.gif here>

[Bwgmon]

Rip to all the people that bought the new bundle two weeks ago though. Every item in a better colour for free this month.

IIRC we knew for a while that most of these were going to be on the Trading Post, with the green versions being "unknown, but probably store" at the time.

Considering those variants were confirmed to be one of those "It'll show up in the Trading Post eventually" deals, it's really more of a "people who like green spent money to have it earlier and won't have to spend ~1000 tenders on them when they do show up" kind of thing I guess.

[Kiivar86]

Are "sunforges" a new concept?

I'm not seeing much beyond a handful of NPCs with it as a last name (one of which is a wildhammer dwarf, interestingly). And a sunforged key for use with the Sunwell raid.

[Vexilius]

Just like they're teasing a better send-off for the Lich King in TLT.

So you're just spewing nonsense, got it.