The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dvalin]

Excited to see what the meta rewards will be.

Speaking of, I would like if the meta mount for TWW is the One Armed Bandit. Somehow.

If TWW gets a meta achievement (and it should), then I hope it doesn't include bizarre achievements like Leftover's Revenge from Dragonflight, which needs a very big group to get. Such groups are hard to form nowadays. For the Primal Storm bosses in the alternate timeline, as well.

Does TWW happen to have such achievements at the moment?

[Cheezits]

If TWW gets a meta achievement (and it should), then I hope it doesn't include bizarre achievements like Leftover's Revenge from Dragonflight, which needs a very big group to get. Such groups are hard to form nowadays. For the Primal Storm bosses in the alternate timeline, as well.

Does TWW happen to have such achievements at the moment?

No, the middle-meta achieve they added for Khaz and Siren Isle were very fair.

[rainhard]

Huh noticed that one of the mats for the coffin is [Ironwood Lumber], does that thing currently exist or are we getting sneak peek of Midnight stuff or maybe idk, image below for reference.

Also how did you make images close and open? I hate taking up space. :P

[Worldshaper]

Huh noticed that one of the mats for the coffin is [Ironwood Lumber], does that thing currently exist or are we getting sneak peek of Midnight stuff or maybe idk, image below for reference.

Also how did you make images close and open? I hate taking up space. :P

You might be onto something. There are a few Ironwood items in Classic and SoD. But I can't find any in the modern game.

Perhaps they've added a few new reagents to fill various gaps in professions for older expansions.

[SunspotAnims]

Huh noticed that one of the mats for the coffin is [Ironwood Lumber], does that thing currently exist or are we getting sneak peek of Midnight stuff or maybe idk, image below for reference.

It's mentioned in the article:

To craft something, players will need not only the required recipe and skill level, but they will also need to gather a new type of decor-crafting specific reagent per-expansion as well as any required reagents from that expansion.

[Trazzle]

I’m so glad 11.1.5 is here… Now I finally get to be excited and anxious to see what 11.1.7 brings ha!

Children’s week allegedly having such a unique and techy pet has me quite curious, and only days away. Also wondering how much the turbo charging theme of season 2 will carry into 11.1.7

[Jolly Roger]

Everything seems fine, I guess I am a bit disappointed we didn't get Carpentry but at least I guess having Housing Furnishing being relevant for every profession is good and will be interesting to see on the Auction House. (Also a very good utilization of each expansions Crafting category being used!)

Still with the nature of this being 1 chair = 1 chair, I do wonder how the Monetization for this will go cause buying a bunch of $40 bundles but maybe they keep them Unique. Will be interesting to see how that goes later down the line. Also how gold sinky will the system be, its going to be interesting to see how much a total furnishing of a house can go with gold.

If nothing else it seems good? Obviously, I am a bit surprised they want a Unique thing but ultimately if they feel that its better and sometimes there are going to be furnishing that should be unique even if someone would want to have Onyxia heads all over their house for some reason. I guess its' just interesting they settled that Onyxia heads is where the limit goes.

all store items will have a special tag that allows you to make X copies

[Joshuaj]

I think it's the superior approach. It creates a longer term gameplay loop than just "buy a thing once" and increases the value in old world profession leveling and mat farming.

FFXIV and Runescape also does this, so no harm no foul imo.

[Ersula]

To craft something, players will need not only the required recipe and skill level, but they will also need to gather a new type of decor-crafting specific reagent per-expansion as well as any required reagents from that expansion.

seems like a bit of a contradiction to give a hardline-yes to getting furnishings from feats of strength & previous expansions crafting skills, but also a hardline-no to doing so from previous expansions other achievements.

Do they feel doing old raids is good enough for mount, transmog & pet hunters, but not furnishing collectors?

[Foolicious]

Probably a nothingburger, but there is a lore book about the founding of flame's radiance that is talking about an arathi empress fighting in the age of "turmoil and strife". Is there any event on azeroth in the last 3k years or so that this could refer to?

[Nightshade711]

Probably a nothingburger, but there is a lore book about the founding of flame's radiance that is talking about an arathi empress fighting in the age of "turmoil and strife". Is there any event on azeroth in the last 3k years or so that this could refer to?

IF they are on Avaloren after all - they could be referring to Odyn trying to send some titanforged to take the island/continent(?) but failing.

[Worldshaper]

IF they are on Avaloren after all - they could be referring to Odyn trying to send some titanforged to take the island/continent(?) but failing.

While Avaloren might be big enough for lots of people to live there, I don't think they're Odyn's "heretics," if that's what you are implying.

The report from Watcher Perethales waa written when Odyn was Prime Designate long before modern humans existed.

[Toho]

Is the expansion almost over? I am so checked out

[Nymrohd]

Btw if they want us to farm crafting reagents at old expansions, I hope they also find a way to give us gathering while mounted in all old zones. And yes I know, Sky Golem but it gives me motion sickness

[Sondrelk]

Is the expansion almost over? I am so checked out

We are right about the halfway point. Maybe closer to two thirds if you count Legion Remix as something beyond this expansion.

This is always the worst part of an expansion anyways. Just take a break to do other stuff. Trying to play through burnout will never work out.

[Toho]

We are right about the halfway point. Maybe closer to two thirds if you count Legion Remix as something beyond this expansion.

This is always the worst part of an expansion anyways. Just take a break to do other stuff. Trying to play through burnout will never work out.

Oh I haven't played in a long time. Other games keep me busy if I have time to play, but somehow I always come back to this train wreck and see what's the latest.

For the amount of time Warcraft demands neither the story or gameplay justify it anymore.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Is the expansion almost over? I am so checked out

Technically speaking we have 115 days (3 months and 24 days) until Midnights Reveal. (give or take 1-2 days, depending on if its OGN or its own specific event)

So yes, it is almost over. Obviously, there isn't much confidence but at least the crumbs of greatness we can get from Midnight is far greater than this railroaded expansion to exit even if also there's a lot more damage and lack of care to be done in Midnight.

At least it seems unless we get heel turned by Warcraft Team that K'aresh will at least be a high point as we go into the most selling World of Warcraft expansion of all time.

[Dracullus]

It's so strange you arent tired of this "WoW is in worst state evah last 5-10-15 years, but somehow I'm invested in it's future" bit. I must live in a very strange bubble since I see universal praise for Undermine, including people who hated S1.

[Joshuaj]

It's so strange you arent tired of this "WoW is in worst state evah last 5-10-15 years, but somehow I'm invested in it's future" bit. I must live in a very strange bubble since I see universal praise for Undermine, including people who hated S1.

Fr tho...

It's been this way for the longest time, mind you. I remember people saying this stuff in late Wrath, Cata, MoP, WoD, Legion, BFA, SL, and Dragonflight. WoD and SL were the only times these complaints had merit, but even then, those folks were VERY dramatic and everything. Like, you'd think it was the fucking rapture, with how people were doing some "great exodus" to FFXIV. It's so corny man...

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I don't much care for TWW either, and I definitely have my issues with it, but my goodness don't play the expac if you don't fw it. And Ik damn well some of y'all are gonna complain the same way in Midnight and TLT. It's just inevitable.

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I mean, the only issue I really have is the story and the lack of interest from the Warcraft Team in their intellectual property these days unlike prior. Especially since they marketed this as a MCU style phase and we're at a borderline elementary school level writing with no clear feedback or video essays for improvements existing on the wider internet which means that things are going to stay in this poor quality for the duration of the saga. So in the end it will just mean that it is a meandering pointless eyeroll whenever they keep marketing it going forward in interviews because its' just not actual object reality that they are presenting.

Things have improved quite drastically to me in every other avenue. I just need something happening in-universe again and well the Midnight Cinematic could at least re-engage me in that sense unless something actually happens on K'aresh or in the Final Patch of this expansion. I'm looking for crumbs to refuel me, nothing else really.

I don't really have any game design issues or really economical model issues other than I'd like them to be more focused on the Core Storyline of each expansion if they have to have this 2 Major/6 Minor structure.

Hell, I didn't even mind the QA issues when they first become apparent with the Anniversary Update in 11.0.5. I thought people were being hysterical at the time. Even now I still think its kind of whatever but I am a bit more awarre about the QA being this poor and finding it at least curious.

"Unlike prior"

Dawg our prior expacs involved WoD, SL, BFA, and Cata. Tf do you mean?

[Darkarath]

I mean, the only issue I really have is the story and the lack of interest from the Warcraft Team in their intellectual property these days unlike prior. Especially since they marketed this as a MCU style phase and we're at a borderline elementary school level writing with no clear feedback or video essays for improvements existing. So in the end it will just mean that it is a meandering pointless eyeroll whenever they keep marketing it.

I think that you are not being fair.

11.0 questing and story experience was, at least for me, the best ever. Not the more interesting or epic, but overall I feel that it was really good. Not saying that they cannot improve, though.

Then we got the patches. Nothing in 11.0.5, decent worldbuilding in 11.0.7, and a really nice and fun story in 11.1, although it is fair to say that it doesn't do a lot to advance the main narrative or characters. Then nothing again in 11.1.5.

IMO, every patch needs to have story content, and far more of it. Blizzard has amazing characters and places to tell stories, and it seems so afraid of using them. For example, something like the Blue Dragonflight questline in DF should be the norm for every patch, not the exception.

But I am increasingly concerned about TWW's story (not about other areas of the game, I'm having an amazing time with WoW). We still know nothing about Xal'athat. We still know nothing about the Beledar. These two narrative plots need to be taken care of within this expansion, and time is running out.