The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Worldshaper]

Yes, you just posted about it last page, and the page before that, and twice on the page before that, and on the page before that one, and the page before that. We get it. You think the patch will get announced today.

MMO-Champion speculation in a nutshell: nobody ever acknowledges when you are correct, only when you are wrong. So if you want the record to show that you were indeed right on something, you had better point it out yourself.

[rainhard]

MMO-Champion speculation in a nutshell: nobody ever acknowledges when you are correct, only when you are wrong. So if you want the record to show that you were indeed right on something, you had better point it out yourself.

Sir, this is Wendy's.

[Hitei]

MMO-Champion speculation in a nutshell: nobody ever acknowledges when you are correct, only when you are wrong. So if you want the record to show that you were indeed right on something, you had better point it out yourself.

That takes two posts, not six.

[Worldshaper]

That takes two posts, not six.

What contributes more: me repeating a prediction a couple of times, or you calling me out for it? Hmm. Let's get back on topic and quit criticising each other, shall we.

[Dracullus]

I have a gut feeling Rootlands got scrapped, and to be fair the only reason we know that name is because of the -very- early in development map where they were still deciding on what the sizes of zones were going to be, there was no sign of the actual zone itself on the map. There were some minor signs of it being at least made into a demo zone going off some database records, but that's about it, nothing since. I don't want it to be scrapped as I'd be interested to see what it looks like, but alas, maybe they thought it would be too similar to Amirdrassil. I'm holding out a sliver of hope that it might show up as a smaller zone maybe in one of the smaller patches or maybe with 11.2 on top of (part of) K'aresh, but that's a pipe dream.

11.2 is almost definitely going to be K'aresh with what we've seen teased as well as knowing for a fact that the next tier is the Ethereal Raid which would be kind of out of place in the Rootlands (unless it's something very different than what I imagine in my head).

EDIT: Or maybe they're throwing us a huge curveball and we're circling back to the Rootlands in a later expansion which is why they hadn't actually done much (apparent) work on it during early TWW development.

For me it's completely irrelevant question if Rootlands are scrapped. Worldcore, which serve exactly same purpose in story (imo if Rootlands is Tal'Dranath, then Worldcore is Broken Shore), certainly is not.

So only relevant question is if Worldcore will be Last Titan thing (so finale of whole Saga finishing here) or War Within (keeping consistent underground theme).

Yes, you just posted about it last page, and the page before that, and twice on the page before that, and on the page before that one, and the page before that. We get it. You think the patch will get announced today.

Strangest thing is why so many are hyped. 11.1.7 is small patch, and since story is hidden in PTR there is chance datamining will show at most some Ethereals mobs. Only joined 11.1.7 and 11.2 reveal could be worthy of that hype.

[Darkarath]

So only relevant question is if Worldcore will be Last Titan thing (so finale of whole Saga finishing here) or War Within (keeping consistent underground theme).

I just don't see how we can go to the Worldcore now, when it is clear that it will be relevant in TLT. I would love to see it, though, so I'm good if that happens, as unlikely as it seems ATM.

Strangest thing is why so many are hyped. 11.1.7 is small patch, and since story is hidden in PTR there is chance datamining will show at most some Ethereals mobs. Only joined 11.1.7 and 11.2 reveal could be worthy of that hype.

In DF I was so excited for minor patches. I just love to see how Blizzard evolves the game in every department. I'm still hyped about minor patches, in this case, mainly for the lore and because it would probably unveil the 11.2 zone in one way or another. And who knows? Maybe they surprise us with a cool feature.

[Ersula]

MMO-Champion speculation in a nutshell: nobody ever acknowledges when you are correct, only when you are wrong. So if you want the record to show that you were indeed right on something, you had better point it out yourself.

You've never been correct.

[Worldshaper]

You've never been correct.

Thank you for proving my point.

[Ersula]

I think there are only really two ways we could get playable ethereals in Midnight:

1. One of the base zones is K'aresh or another location instead of being in Quel'thalas
2. All of the work is done to embed them in the story before Midnight's release

I don't see (1) happening because it would split the "continent" in half, and every time an expansion has separated zones with loading screens or other travel between them it's poorly received. I could see it if part of K'aresh or Telogrus Rift were teleported to Quel'thalas, or if they implemented some new technology that worked flawlessly to transition between the areas without it feeling too clunky, like one of the zones having a Void version where the ethereals can live. But I'm not sure how much they want to digress from the elf storyline--(2) would mean we don't need the ethereals to feature heavily in the base story but can still be present in the greater plot without distracting from the elf storyline. We would also know if it's possible by the end of TWW.

I feel like the people who convinced themselves we'd be going to Karesh are the same people who were certain Chromatus would be a big deal in Dragonflight.... and then he didn't appear or was even mentioned. I'm pretty sure Chromatus.... Karesh... Dimensius... are all things the fans remember, but the devs don't. I know we're getting plenty of Ethereal content coming up, but most Ethereals fled Karesh ages ago. Hell, there's a considerable amount already living on Azeroth, ala the Nexus Legion Artifact questlines.

Wouldn't the Etherium be really eager to settle on Azeroth? Are they really that preoccupied to save a world that has already been turned into a void-scarred outland?

[Joshuaj]

Seems next Friday, there will be a panel at PAX East discussing the world of Azeroth. The panel will also talk about player housing, so hopefully this will provide our first look at Neighborhoods.

[Scyth]

Since this is a 3 part saga, what if we only get a very small part of K'aresh in 11.2 with the remaining part coming at Midnight launch? Since we obviously won't defeat Xal or the Void in 11.2. Highly unlikely as they have never done anything like that before though

[Darkarath]

So, with 11.1.7 most likely being shown today, do we have any final predictions? I know that it is a minor patch, but an important one IMO.

The Arathi and Faerin have been MIA since 11.0 (11.1.5 event is pretty bad), so my hope is that Blizzard would focus on them a little bit, because whether we go to K'aresh or the Rootlands in 11.2, they would not be relevant in any of these zones. Since we are getting this mid-season buff, with an increased Item Level and Dinars... may we get the Beledar as a mini-raid? It has been a while since we had one of those.

[Nymrohd]

My prediction is that the quest line will be encrypted and the only information we will get is from the splash screen which will be inconclusive.

[Dvalin]

Since this is a 3 part saga, what if we only get a very small part of K'aresh in 11.2 with the remaining part coming at Midnight launch? Since we obviously won't defeat Xal or the Void in 11.2. Highly unlikely as they have never done anything like that before though

I doubt that, because the Void seems to be the 'mid-Villian', and the Titans the final 'antagonists' we've been working towards. K'aresh is basically only connected to the Void, plotwise. That's why I think it would be odd if we'd visit it during TWW instead of Midnight (which will be about the Void versus Light).

I have the feeling we won't see anything today, but I'd be gladly proven wrong.

[Worldshaper]

Apparently Towellie tweeted yesterday that today will be interesting, which MrGM has now retweeted.

[Dvalin]

Apparently Towellie tweeted yesterday that today will be interesting, which MrGM has now retweeted.

Okay, now THAT's interesting.

[Dracullus]

My prediction is that the quest line will be encrypted and the only information we will get is from the splash screen which will be inconclusive.

And datamining alone could be misleading. Many people didn't noticed because most was on Undermine bandwagon, but 11.0.7 showed Orweyna on splash screen and devs directly said that new character will lead us to 11.1 content.

Biggest faux pas will be if Blizzard repeat mistake from Dragonflight and straight up spoil future zones in campaign name.

Okay, now THAT's interesting.

Would be, because he usually have some knowledge, but Towelliee learned trolling this thread is VERY easy.

[Khaza-R]

Feels like a lot of buzz for a x.7 patch, no? Unless they're also gonna drop a small teaser for Midnight and when the official announcement is.

I mean we do have the horrific visions returning to prepare us to face the unseeming which is directly tied to the black blood, and is also potentially Xal's blood from her original body being destroyed and was a driving force of her instigating conflict between us and the neurbians

It would be cool af if the end boss of TWW was Xal using the husk of her old body as a puppet to fight us

[Nymrohd]

Feels like a lot of buzz for a x.7 patch, no? Unless they're also gonna drop a small teaser for Midnight and when the official announcement is.

The buzz is mostly because people expect the PTR will give us some idea of what 11.2 will be. Because we are not really 100% sure it will be K'aresh.

[Cheezits]

Honestly I think the final nail in the TWW Rootlands coffin was that Orweyna was skipped out not once but twice for a short story, replaced by Locus Walker who is one of the biggest faces on the book.

Also it's fair to note that K'aresh was namedropped in this expansion (prologue) while the Rootlands still don't have an official name, unless its true name is "The Cradle". So the setup for its appearance in TWW specifically is already there.

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EDIT: Or maybe they're throwing us a huge curveball and we're circling back to the Rootlands in a later expansion which is why they hadn't actually done much (apparent) work on it during early TWW development.

I think this is very possible. Based on the very vague lore we got about Elun'ahir in DF, it could be in many different places where it looks like a tree was torn out of the ground. Rootlands may have been planned for the original concept of TWW but they pushed it back because it could easily be used for another expansion- likely TLT.

Sholozar Basin and Un'goro are both very possible locations due to their proximity to important things in TWS- namely Northrend and The Sword tm. They are big life-filled craters without a world tree... on the surface, that is.