The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joshuaj]

Once you finish the quest, you get a little recap book item:

I love seeing Shadowlands lore get doubled down on! This is peak!

[Khaza-R]

Yeah that's totally going towards the Shadowguard took over after we killed Salhadaar and we are going to help the other Ethereals take fight them.

[Darkarath]

https://www.wowhead.com/es/news/11-1...poilers-376680

Xal'athat is a Void Agent and N'zoth is very much alive.

[Joshuaj]

Also, I genuinely believed the Ethereals and Brokers were different, with the Ethereals taking their practices from the Brokers and whatnot. I did NOT expect them to have come from the same world, though this would explain why they share similar accents and whatnot.

To whoever said they were one in the same initially, good job.

[Kiivar86]

On the one hand, kinda eh that the quests are all old ones, but on the other, the end of it and that reveal is pretty sweet.

Xal'atath's one should be more interesting what with the going back in time part.

[Makorus]

https://www.wowhead.com/es/news/11-1...poilers-376680

Xal'athat is a Void Agent and N'zoth is very much alive.

Holy shit, that's actually huge.

I don't think Nzoth is alive though. Also, is this the first time we got a Yshaarj model?

[Fiercelord]

Loved Xal'atath questline because you play as a servant of the Black Empire. The questline shows how the Old Gods imprisoned Xal'atath, but we still don't know her motives. She attacks the Old Gods earlier and she looks like a void entity so we still don't know what she is.

[Joshuaj]

https://www.wowhead.com/es/news/11-1...poilers-376680

Xal'athat is a Void Agent and N'zoth is very much alive.

Nothing here implies N'Zoth is alive, but it IS nice to know Xal'atath was nothing special lol. People genuinely believed she was something else entire, and that was silly. Imo, I thought she was an entity akin to the Old Gods, or was maybe a canonical version of the Ancient One from Hearthstone, but I'm fine with the actual answer.

Also, this would explain why N'Zoth stayed in the background for the longest time.The Old Gods acting like a council is also cool.

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Loved Xal'atath questline because you play as a servant of the Black Empire. The questline shows how the Old Gods imprisoned Xal'atath, but we still don't know her motives. She attacks the Old Gods earlier and she looks like a void entity so we still don't know what she is.

She is the Harbinger of the Void, yeah? It's entirely possible she was an agent of Dimensius or whatever.

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We know the Old Gods are spawns of the Void Lords, but are they related to Dimensius at all? Cause it's entirely possible Dimensius was against the whole Old God stuff. Granted, it's also just possible the Old Gods did their own thing against the Void Lords, and Dimensius sent Xal'atath to kick their shit in, as Old Gods act independently from their creators.

[Darkarath]

Arthas' questline could be the game changer here.

Both Xal'athat and Ethereals questlines, while interesting, they just confirm what has been theorized for a while, without giving the juicy details.

We still know very little about the Ethereals and the Brokers, and practically nothing about Xal'athat.

Also it is very obvious that N'zoth would come back at some point, he could even be in league with Xal'athat, that would explain the Infinites connection somehow.

[Joshuaj]

Watch the Arthas questline end in the Jailer laughing or summ

[Dracullus]

8 week thing has been consistant with the exception being when they were out of the office during the holidays. There's nothing to indicate they wouldn't stick to it for the rest of the year. June 17 11.1.7 -> Aug 12 11.2 -> Oct 7 11.2.5 -> Dec 2 11.2.7 all seem like safe bets. All those dates 8 weeks from each other.

Yeah, it's simple, most of patches last 8 weeks, unless something force them to move dates:

- 10.2 and 11.0.7 were 10 weeks because Christmas season,
- 10.0.7 was 6 weeks and 10.1 - 10 weeks to make room for Diablo 4 release
- 10.1.7 was 9 weeks because blizzcon

So 8 weeks patch is baseline (5 weeks for prepatch) and true for most patches. But it can't be taken as gospel. So far any change from usual schedule was reasonable, it's clear Blizzard prefer to release broken patch in time than delay it even 1 week.

[Joshuaj]

Btw, all of this does confirm 4 Old Gods. No 5th.

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Just saying...

[Nymrohd]

The Broker thing will most likely require a retcon but I don't mind one bit. They are thematically identical with the ethereal.

The Xal'atath quest simply shows that she was the obvious, an agent of the Void and not something far fetched.

[Joshuaj]

The Broker thing will most likely require a retcon but I don't mind one bit. They are thematically identical with the ethereal.

The Xal'atath quest simply shows that she was the obvious, an agent of the Void and not something far fetched.

Why will it require a retcon?

[Cheezits]

Xals OG form is a bit underwhelming, so I assume she won't lose the elf form or she will possess Alleria.

[Limayria]

Brokers have clearly been etherals the whole time, it's exciting tho between this explicit confirmation and the data mines ethereal stuff the aesthetic of k'aresh is coming together way more as "fantasy silk road" mixing china, india and Arabia/Persian with different groups

Also showing etherals (like elves) are highly mutable my different forces

Maybe we'll learn locus walker is trying to recreate the curse of flesh to allow etherals to reclaim their original form?!

[Cheezits]

Oh wow, there's a secret 4th questline about Umbric's exile. Untestable.

[Nymrohd]

Xals OG form is a bit underwhelming, so I assume she won't lose the elf form or she will possess Alleria.

I would hope she will get a custom void horror form and stops being a barefoot elf.

I really hope they add more expansion-wide meta-achievements. Most of them I should be able to acquire automatically anyway

[milkmustache]

Brokers have clearly been etherals the whole time, it's exciting tho between this explicit confirmation and the data mines ethereal stuff the aesthetic of k'aresh is coming together way more as "fantasy silk road" mixing china, india and Arabia/Persian with different groups

Also showing etherals (like elves) are highly mutable my different forces

Maybe we'll learn locus walker is trying to recreate the curse of flesh to allow etherals to reclaim their original form?!

Are they mutable by forces, or are they different species but stil K'areshi? Void and Arcane seem to have the same effect on Ethereals (in terms of form), but Death is different? Could it perhaps be that they were different K'areshi species that were transformed by the destruction in different ways?

It's totally possible and rather probable they're the same species, I'm just providing food for discussion!

[FossilFree]

Man, I still so badly want some form of battlemage, especially if it's a spec within a spellbreaker. I just wanna look like the Suramar guards.

Agreed! It could be really fun and unique.