The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Here's the conversation that seems to be post-fight, though obviously do not take this as 100% confirmed.

Oh god, she will merge with everything trapped inside the heart to become a super Void Lord or something?

Or Azshara will show up and snatch the Heart, laughing her way to the bank/Sunwell.

[Hitei]

Based on some of the IDs, I feel like K'aresh was worked on at the same time as Undermine instead of "rushed after Undermine". The plants in the ecodomes are also the oldest 'new models' and I have a gut feeling these might be salvaged from the Rootlands kit.

This was actually my immediate read also when I saw that they were using Tazavesh and the Dragon assets. Some of the plants are suspiciously thorny and the thorns in void-influenced texture version are two tone with nearly the same hue shift as the red and green thorns seen on the harronir's gear.

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[Timester]

Here's the conversation that seems to be post-fight, though obviously do not take this as 100% confirmed.

Bullshitter going to bullshit.

We already know where this is going, Void invading Azeroth.

[Makorus]

TWW had concept art for many more zone ideas besides the three we got. And yet they chose to give us K'aresh as a zone instead.

This is NOT concept art. This is out-sourced pre-production inspiration.

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Bullshitter going to bullshit.

We already know where this is going, Void invading Azeroth.

Except we don't know how it happens.

[Makorus]

* Which just happen to look almost exactly like the finished product.

Yes. Because the point of those were to inspire the way Khaz Algar was going to look. It was never made by Blizzard, it's not concept art. They never intended or thought about having giant corpses in Khaz Algar, because those were not made by Blizzard.

It's essentially outsourced brainstorming.

It's important to point that out because people have this obsession with shitting on Blizzard because of "cut content" and "broken promises".

Also: Did you even look at those images? They don't even look remotely like anything in the game other than they are set underground.

[Alanar]

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Except we don't know how it happens.

It doesnt matter realy.. we know its always the most obvious route. Lets not pretend otherwise.

[Makorus]

It doesnt matter realy.. we know its always the most obvious route. Lets not pretend otherwise.

Yeah. It's Xalatath. It's not some weird "Oh no, we didn't actually kill this guy!" or "Oh, we actually lose that boss fight!" or "This faction invades Azeroth while we are on Karesh!" like people spout during every single last patch

[Alanar]

Yeah. It's Xalatath. It's not some weird "Oh no, we didn't actually kill this guy!" or "Oh, we actually lose that boss fight!" or "This faction invades Azeroth while we are on Karesh!" like people spout during every single last patch

Its never a really big twist or the overanalysed theory on mmo champion. Its just sets people up for dissappointment in the end, it always does.

Go for the most obvious, safest bet for your own sanity.

[Timester]

Its never a really big twist or the overanalysed theory on mmo champion. Its just sets people up for dissappointment in the end, it always does.

Go for the most obvious, safest bet for your own sanity.

Exactly.

With the spoilers we have is safe to assume which direction it will go. Because one thing is certain, Midnight starts after a Void invasion on the Sunwell, that we know.

Blizzard is kinda blunt on their storytelling and everything so far was very predictable, as they intended. That's why the "Azshara will start Midnight" speculation for me makes no sense at all, there is nothing pointing to it.

[Foolicious]

There actually is a questline where we actively help him absorb the void power and help him transform into a Void Hunter.

Honestly, this feels too involved to just be filler boss fluff, especially because this is an optional boss. We'll see, I guess.

There is an icon labelled "INV_112_Ability_DemonHunter_MetamorphasisVoid" which is not actually used during the fight.

What if its not a third spec, but new spell effects? Like the green fire way back in mop.

[Al Gorefiend]

Void DH is infinitely a better idea than another void elf class. Give whatever Alleria is to them and let's move on to better class ideas

[Mackud]

There actually is a questline where we actively help him absorb the void power and help him transform into a Void Hunter.

Honestly, this feels too involved to just be filler boss fluff, especially because this is an optional boss. We'll see, I guess.

There is an icon labelled "INV_112_Ability_DemonHunter_MetamorphasisVoid" which is not actually used during the fight.

Incorrect. All 3 Demon Hunters have a Mug'Zee mechanic where they instantly go into Metamorphisis when they reach 100 Fury, this is just the Void Demon Hunter's version of it.

You can already tell just from that the theme of the fight will to be not let more than 1 of them be in Meta form at the same time.

More interestingly, they're officially classed as a bonus boss. 7 +1 which means they're not mandatory to progress to Dimesius

[rainhard]

They couldve just copied their own HS art and it wouldve been better.

I kinda like this iritation, although basic its true to the original while implimenting the cosmic elements in a not overwhelming way and also taking some inspiration from the voids interpretation seen in league of legends story, generally the shapes but also some colors.
For reference

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[Makorus]

Incorrect. All 3 Demon Hunters have a Mug'Zee mechanic where they instantly go into Metamorphisis when they reach 100 Fury, this is just the Void Demon Hunter's version of it.

You can already tell just from that the theme of the fight will to be not let more than 1 of them be in Meta form at the same time.

More interestingly, they're officially classed as a bonus boss. 7 +1 which means they're not mandatory to progress to Dimesius

Sure, but I don't think the spell icon is actually used in the fight. It definitely doesn't show up in the dungeon journal.

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Its never a really big twist or the overanalysed theory on mmo champion. Its just sets people up for dissappointment in the end, it always does.

Go for the most obvious, safest bet for your own sanity.

It's just interesting when people will learn that. The only thing that kind of came out of left field was Antorus resulting in us... kind of losing? Hasn't happened before, hasn't happened since.

[Mackud]

Sure, but I don't think the spell icon is actually used in the fight. It definitely doesn't show up in the dungeon journal.

It literally does though.

Upon reaching 100 Fury, the Demon Hunters unleash their true power and enter Metamorphosis.

I don't know what you're reading but it's not 11.2 stuff.

[Joshuaj]

VERY interesting bit of information.

Those souls go there because K'aresh wasn't touched by the Titans or the First Ones?

Or it has something to do with what Locus Walker and Xal'athat did to the Ethereals? Did they free them from the Machine of Death system?

Everything is touched by the First Ones. The whole cosmos would not exist without them.

They're probably not touched by the Titans tho, no.

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They couldve just copied their own HS art and it wouldve been better.



Perhaps you should actually read what i wrote lel

I read it, it's silly. Also, the Hearthstone art you posted was of a Cosmic Elemental, not a Void Lord.

[Makorus]

It literally does though.

Upon reaching 100 Fury, the Demon Hunters unleash their true power and enter Metamorphosis.

I don't know what you're reading but it's not 11.2 stuff.

The Dungeon Journal which does not use the icon? Like, just read the words that I write instead of being snarky for no reason.

It's not part of his ability set:





The ability you are pointing out uses the default Havoc Meta icon:

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=.../metamorphosis

And Adarus' version of the spell also uses the default Havoc icon:



If you can show me where this is icon is seemingly used, be my guest, because it's not anywhere.

Here's a list of all the Metamorphosis spells added this build. PS: not a single one uses the new icon.

[BaumanKing]

I thought Metzen said we were going to help the forces of the Light to banish the Shadow. Why aren't there any lightforged draenei or even arathi on K'aresh with us? The Vindicaar is floating above Azeroth doing absolutely nothing. I understand why it wasn't used in BfA, but it's the perfect opportunity now that we're heading into space again. I'm honestly tired of the lightforged draenei being a completely useless race.

[Makorus]

Looking through abilities added, Xal'atath does explicitly help us during the fight.



Dimensius also has a Skyriding bit:



She also consumes a world soul:

[Hitei]

I thought Metzen said we were going to help the forces of the Light to banish the Shadow. Why aren't there any lightforged draenei or even arathi on K'aresh with us? The Vindicaar is floating above Azeroth doing absolutely nothing. I understand why it wasn't used in BfA, but it's the perfect opportunity now that we're heading into space again. I'm honestly tired of the lightforged draenei being a completely useless race.

Because that is the summary of Midnight, the next expansion, not TWW.