The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Limayria]

Does anyone have any guesses why we got halls of atonement as one of our dungeons this season btw? I was really expecting a revamped mana tombs or seat of the triumvirate

Maybe the "legion commander" in the Arator book is a dreadlord? And maybe the dread lords are gonna be a force in midnight

[Marlamin]

Oh wtf?

Yeah, notice how the first one is the only one with the Dark Heart. Meaning, if we defeat him, he's not getting sucked into the Dark Heart

I haven't looked into anything specifically as I don't like datamining story beats, but we're going into the Dark Heart to fight Dimensius I think (there were some floating Dalaran bits), so that's probably why he's getting sucked into it. I'm guessing we are too as part of the fight.

[Joshuaj]

I haven't looked into anything specifically as I don't like datamining story beats, but we're going into the Dark Heart to fight Dimensius I think (there were some floating Dalaran bits), so that's probably why he's getting sucked into it. I'm guessing we are too as part of the fight.

Yeah, but my point was more-so that people assumed his "death" was him being sucked into the Dark Heart. But with the models and whatnot...that doesn't appear to be the case. I think we just straight up kill him.

This makes me wonder how we can beat him as well, as we have no major power boosts like the Artifacts or anything, and despite not being at full power, it's true form is still being displayed there, and he is chucking worlds at us + consuming stars lmaooo

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Is anyone able to check the Dimensius boss room at all? or?

[Marlamin]

Yeah, but my point was more-so that people assumed his "death" was him being sucked into the Dark Heart. But with the models and whatnot...that doesn't appear to be the case. I think we just straight up kill him.

This makes me wonder how we can beat him as well, as we have no major power boosts like the Artifacts or anything, and despite not being at full power, it's true form is still being displayed there, and he is chucking worlds at us + consuming stars lmaooo

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Is anyone able to check the Dimensius boss room at all? or?

Yeah, the raid is available in map viewers and such. It's the big room from the video and maybe the part I mentioned high in the sky above the raid (probably canonically inside of the Dark Heart?).

[ChairmanKaga]

I'm still not convinced that Dimensius isn't the awoken void-turned world soul of K'aresh.

(after we kill Dimensius and his worldsoul crashes into the new Shadowlands Arbiter)
Pelagos: "Son of a bitch!"

[Foolicious]

Defeating Nexus-King Salhadaar will give you an Ethereal Essence Sliver, which can be traded for a cosmetic appearance of your choice at Shadow Point

Hope this means we can finally buy all raid transmog and not just weapons.

Does anyone have any guesses why we got halls of atonement as one of our dungeons this season btw? I was really expecting a revamped mana tombs or seat of the triumvirate

Maybe the "legion commander" in the Arator book is a dreadlord? And maybe the dread lords are gonna be a force in midnight

From the speculation i've heard lots of people guessed halls because Revendreth is the only Shadowlands zone not yet represented in tww (and apparently the other dungeon isn't well liked gameplay wise)

[Cheezits]

So couple big spoilers about the story.

K'aresh is a worldsoul and it's a He

the dungeon boss is a prophet who communed with the world soul for a moment in the campaign

Between those two things I think the surprise at the end of the story is somehow resurrecting K'aresh

Also Xal reveals something about herself Dimensius destroyed her world

[Fiercelord]

Is there any video of Raid map exploration? (If that's even allowed)

[Doffen]

So about Void Demon Hunters, surely Void Elves gets to be Demon Hunter in 11.2. Right? The model is already a DH(Belf) and now we have the lore reason as well.

[Raetary]

Between those two things I think the surprise at the end of the story is somehow resurrecting K'aresh

Doesn't seem like that is gonna last for long.

[Joshuaj]

Doesn't seem like that is gonna last for long.

OHHHHH I KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN! Xal'atath is gonna consume fragments of K'aresh's worldsoul and use it in her counterattack against Dimensius! This is why he gets heavily damaged and weakened a bit in the fight!

[Ersula]

There is no World Tree in the EK.
The closest World Tree to QT is Amirdrassil, given where the Dragon Isles are geographically.

You realize Amirdrassil is much closer to the Sunwell than the Sunwell is to Lordaeron.

[Joshuaj]

A worldsouls power harming a Void Lord? Literally parallel's Zovaal and Sargeras lmaooo!

Argus' power was enough to pull Sargeras back to the Seat of the Pantheon, and Azeroth's power was used to not only power the Machine of Origination, but also defy Zovaal and empower the Champions with her boon!

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Worldsouls are terrifying, no wonder Sargeras was afraid

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Yeah, the raid is available in map viewers and such. It's the big room from the video and maybe the part I mentioned high in the sky above the raid (probably canonically inside of the Dark Heart?).

I need to see it D:

[Raetary]

You realize Amirdrassil is much closer to the Sunwell than the Sunwell is to Lordaeron.

Sure.

Idk what that has to do with what i said though.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Reminds me of the trees of Valinor from LotR

It was exactly the inspiration, yes.

could be an interesting story if it was planted while they were still night elves and remains now as the relic of the last highborne druids.

We're on the same wavelength, I also thought in my head that it would have been planted when they were still night elves, a relic of the past just like the Silvermoon name.

[Dracullus]

So about Void Demon Hunters, surely Void Elves gets to be Demon Hunter in 11.2. Right? The model is already a DH(Belf) and now we have the lore reason as well.

Wouldn't that be announced on patch reveal? Imo new DH races (+ void spec if it's a thing) will be thing gated behind MD pre-order like DKs in SL, but maybe coming in 11.2.5 patch.

[Cheezits]

By the way: Alleria is the ONLY Azeroth character in the Karesh campaign. Actually JK Umbric is there.

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Also, looks like the Sun Croc had nothing to do with k'aresh? Unless it comes in a patch

[Merryck]

By the way: Alleria is the ONLY Azeroth character in the Karesh campaign. Actually JK Umbric is there.

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Also, looks like the Sun Croc had nothing to do with k'aresh? Unless it comes in a patch

I don't understand why the Army of the Light aren't coming to K'aresh with us. Surely at least Turalyon would want to help?

[Viridiel]

I wonder if the new gryphons might imply a Hinterlands revamp as part of Midnight. It would give the Nelves a world tree to care about at least.

Also between the Forsaken horses and those, they are two North EK races that are getting updated mount models.

I was thinking the same thing. The gryphons have a really interesting design, funnily enough like a cross between dwarf and troll aesthetics, which is very apt for the Hinterlands and the Wildhammer in general.

They're Trading Post though, so I expect them to mean nothing. I just hope it's indicative of the design choices that will be made if they do decide to revamp the Hinterlands.

With what's going on with the world right now and the rise of racism, I don't think Blizzard would like to be seen as pro Arab by showing the cultural inspiration of the Ethereals. Bad PR for a US company.

There are still ruins around K'aresh with distinctly Islamic pointed arches, not to mention the Broker (K'areshi?) architecture featuring a lot of other elements of Islamic architecture.

Honestly, K'aresh feels crap. I hope it's just still early days and there are a lot of NPCs and doodads to be added because I'm really not keen on an area with like 3 ruins and 2 eco-domes separated by miles of featureless sand. Even Desolace has more going on.

[Merryck]

I guess Blizzard have just completely forgotten about the existence of the Vindicaar. They could always just say the Army of the Light and the Vindicaar are off-world fighting Legion remnants, but I'm guessing they're just going to pretend they / it doesn't exist.