The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Yeah im actually baffled there is no Seat. Were they that scared of adding it?
The theme is perfect like you said. Kind of like how Motherlode was for Undermine

I suppose they could have simply forgotten about it. It is very easy to forget there was a dungeon added in that patch.
Though them being afraid of it could also be true. It's possible it is not a dungeon that is easily converted to M+. Could be it would require lots of rework to make into a good dungeon.
Absolutely no excuse for Temple of Sethraliss though. With the rework we see in BfA Timewalking it could easily be a great dungeon.

[Makorus]

I suppose they could have simply forgotten about it. It is very easy to forget there was a dungeon added in that patch.
Though them being afraid of it could also be true. It's possible it is not a dungeon that is easily converted to M+. Could be it would require lots of rework to make into a good dungeon.
Absolutely no excuse for Temple of Sethraliss though. With the rework we see in BfA Timewalking it could easily be a great dungeon.

It was already a M+ dungeon.

[Timester]

I don't like how the eco-domes are Broker themed. Unsure why they did that.

Comparing to what? Like I said before, Ethereal doesn't have a WoW architecture. Just little tents and the eco-domes structures.

[milkmustache]

I don't like how the eco-domes are Broker themed. Unsure why they did that.

My guess is that alongside the artist bandwidth, they're going to have the Broker aesthetic slowly take over the K'areshi aesthetic. I think what we're seeing is that Ethereals were a certain sector of them that maybe have operated more as outcasts over the past few thousand years while the Brokers managed to thrive in the Shadowlands.

I think a really good bridge for this would be somewhat of a merge between Brokers and Ethereals into general K'areshi in Midnight, either as a playable race with some more diverse aesthetics that bridge the two, or just in general where they appear often in the story.

Ethereals are great. Brokers are great. Them being the same people is really great. My hopes are that their story doesn't end in Midnight, and we get more and more of them to come. There's a great narrative usage of this alien race that always has their hands in things for mysterious motives, even if that's not necessarily antagonistic motives.

So all in all, if the K'areshi people move forward from 11.2 and start to rebuild their society with what's left, I'd be really open to seeing them take more of the Broker aesthetic and merge it with the current Ethereal aesthetic.

[Khaza-R]

I suppose they could have simply forgotten about it. It is very easy to forget there was a dungeon added in that patch.
Though them being afraid of it could also be true. It's possible it is not a dungeon that is easily converted to M+. Could be it would require lots of rework to make into a good dungeon.
Absolutely no excuse for Temple of Sethraliss though. With the rework we see in BfA Timewalking it could easily be a great dungeon.

Could be they just think its a better fit for S1 of Midnight.

[Sondrelk]

It was already a M+ dungeon.

Remembering it was a dungeon at all I mean. Or if they did remember, retuning it so it isnt a terrible Legion M+ experience.

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Could be they just think its a better fit for S1 of Midnight.

Which is a fair point. Still a strange choice though.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

I don't like how the eco-domes are Broker themed. Unsure why they did that.

In the end, it's more of a broker patch than an ethereal one. It's a big mistake to make eco-domes a broker invention rather than an ethereal one, because they've been assimilated to them since TBC.

A broker presence, why not... but they take up far too much space in my opinion... they dilute the ethereal culture far too much.

[Timester]

they dilute the ethereal culture far too much.

Not even one bit in the PTR. Ethereals culture divisions (and it's multiple divisions) is VERY present in 11.2.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Not even one bit in the PTR.

What about eco-domes?

[Jastall]

Yeah im actually baffled there is no Seat. Were they that scared of adding it?
The theme is perfect like you said. Kind of like how Motherlode was for Undermine

Because Seat is a godawful dungeon, while Halls isn't. That seems reason enough to me, tbh.

[Limayria]

That was middle DF, which made sense timing wise.

But when we are less than one month of Midnight announcement? I'm betting all on a Midnight selling gimmick.

Void elf demon hunters tied to midnight preorder but 3rd spec for all demon hunters

[Zardas]

How did they get to K'aresh?

The dreadlords have infiltrated all the cosmic forces but it's inconsistent that their master is able to send his people to K'aresh ?

[Cheezits]

In the end, it's more of a broker patch than an ethereal one. It's a big mistake to make eco-domes a broker invention rather than an ethereal one, because they've been assimilated to them since TBC.

A broker presence, why not... but they take up far too much space in my opinion... they dilute the ethereal culture far too much.

I think it's fine as long as we get more of Ethereals after this. Currently most of their factions are antagonistic in 11.2.

[Mackud]

Maybe i missed it being mentioned already because i zone out of most conversations that start popping up all the time..

But at some point Venari taunts Xalatath because she knows there is something in the maw even the void fears. Thats presumeably why she was there in the first place when we meet her. Would be interesting to know what this could be.

I'll give you a clue. She's an Undead Banshee, who are known to be immune to Void-enslavement powers. She has a first name starting with S. Surname is Windrunner.

I think I've made it obvious enough if Venari hadn't already.

Void and Undeath magic cancel each other out so there's alot to fear from that.

[Joshuaj]

How did they get to K'aresh? Can they just willy nilly teleport out?
This is what I mean. Shadowlands has tons of inconsistencies. They have to either retcon it, or stop referencing it
I really can't hide my disdain for that team. All of that and not a single apology. And I still think that they haven't been humbled or learned anything
It certainly doesn't show
Whatever

Are you asking how the greatest infiltrators in the cosmos could even get to K'aresh?

Simple, by looking like a K'areshi and becoming part of their society in a grand scheme.

[Mackud]

In the end, it's more of a broker patch than an ethereal one. It's a big mistake to make eco-domes a broker invention rather than an ethereal one, because they've been assimilated to them since TBC.

A broker presence, why not... but they take up far too much space in my opinion... they dilute the ethereal culture far too much.

They had to keep Broker's in the story nonetheless. They're a great faction of I'm on nobody's side but we're only doing business if there's something to mutually benefit us also. Basically how Goblins should of stayed as.

They've done business with the Infinite's and Gallywix and will have no problem doing business with the enemy again if there's something they want from it - It's quite possible at this stage Phase Thief Azir is a Broker who merely doing a transaction with the enemy with the steal

[Cheezits]

I feel really fucking bad for the Wastelanders. Their story is an interesting twist on the usual questing experience with rebel factions, however.

Between them and the Ravel it's nice to see the story get very dark.

[Dracullus]

Yeah im actually baffled there is no Seat. Were they that scared of adding it?
The theme is perfect like you said. Kind of like how Motherlode was for Undermine

We will have at least one more pure Void patch - Sunwell most likely. Maybe even two. Probably they saved it for future,

Also, we have 3 Ethereal/Broker themed dungeons anyway + Arakara/Dawnbreaker for Void stuff. Light, Goblin and Venthyr dungeons give some variety. Only stuff I hate is repeating TWW dungeons so fast, especially ones from S2.

[Joshuaj]

I feel really fucking bad for the Wastelanders. Their story is an interesting twist on the usual questing experience with rebel factions, however.

Between them and the Ravel it's nice to see the story get very dark.

Me to the Wastelanders: It doesn't matter if I end up killing the Void Lord, your planet's still fuckin dead!

[Cheezits]

Me to the Wastelanders: It doesn't matter if I end up killing the Void Lord, your planet's still fuckin dead!

Wellllllllllll unless Xal is lying K'aresh still lives to some extent