The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Merryck]

Playable Ethereals in the Future?

Nothing to announce at the moment, but they're always interested to hear what races players find interesting to interact with. Allied races opens the door for different fantasies, and they'd love to hear what players think after experiencing the story of Ghosts of K'aresh.

There's still hope. Even though it's a pretty generic answer ...

[Limayria]

I'm leaning more towards the wastelanders connecting with azeorths world soul somehow and that being our path to playable etherals

[Wyrt]

Playable Ethereals in the Future?


There's still hope. Even though it's a pretty generic answer ...

I think Ethereals are a likely new race for Midnight and they just don't want to spoil that reveal yet. We go help them on K'aresh then they come help us on Azeroth.

[ChronoSul]

Regardless of your personal opinion on races and if they should or should not be playable. Ethereal are simultaneously one of the longest requested races, and more popular requested too.

You do have to wonder why Blizzard ignores home runs like the Iskaran Tuskar and the Ethereals.

The one issue I do see with playable Ethereals right now, is that K'areshi are now brokers as well, which I'm happy with. It would feel unusual to get Ethereals at this point without Brokers now the connections been established and they've returned to K'aresh from the Shadowlands.

I have a sneaking suspicion were getting the Blizzard "not giving you what you want, but something similar but not really" and getting some K'areshi returned to their original forms at the end of the dungeon. Brokers and Ethereals alike.

I've seen some cat people predictions in this thread, and with the Arabic culture vibes it could be pretty likely.

They're not working on Ethereals, they're working on K'areshi instead.

Starting zone in the ecodome. While the rest of us K'areshi are here reforming the planet and its people, we need you to venture to Azeroth with our new allies and make sure the void is taken care of. We can't risk it making its way back here.

Bonus points if the Ethereals and Brokers are distinct different races, and can have one for each faction. Ethereals a more regal, elegant igant race and brokers a more rough around the edges, sinister race. If we're talking animals, one could be feline, and the other reptilian. Tick a few boxes off the list.

It would line up with how they've done other allied races in the past giving a bit of a warped version of exactly what players want. Also technically makes their statement not a lie.

[Cheezits]

K'areshi would be very interesting, and I have predicted a Miqote type of deal for a while.

As long as they have space powers and it isn't that hard to make them look like an Ethereal.

If not a Miqote then yet another sexy humanoid thing ala Dracthyr Visage for mass appeal.

[Ersula]

I don't like how the eco-domes are Broker themed. Unsure why they did that.

The point was that Brokers and Ethereals aren't even two subcultures of one race... It's one culture. Brokers were Ethereals the whole time.

[Xilurm]

Whatever the next race is, I hope it's a core race. And if it's based on an existing npc race or whatever like the Ethereals, I hope they make them from scratch like they did with the Worgen and Goblins.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

One of Xal'athath's whispers during the chronicle says something that disturbed me a bit, I can't remember exactly but she says something like:

"Didn't they tell you who there were before the draenei?"

What is she talking about? That there was another race from Argus and the draenei wiped them out? Who was supposed to tell us?

I think Ethereals are a likely new race for Midnight and they just don't want to spoil that reveal yet. We go help them on K'aresh then they come help us on Azeroth.

God I hate you, you still give me hope.

[Wyrt]

K'areshi would be very interesting, and I have predicted a Miqote type of deal for a while.

As long as they have space powers and it isn't that hard to make them look like an Ethereal.

If not a Miqote then yet another sexy humanoid thing ala Dracthyr Visage for mass appeal.

If Blizzard sees people asking for Ethereals to be playable and gives us some trash weeb catgirl shit instead I'm going to be pissed.

[Stormfeather]

Interesting thing I thought worth sharing: the hunter tier set, the one that mirrors Alleria's armour, is called "Midnight Herald's Pledge."

[Foolicious]

I'll give you a clue. She's an Undead Banshee, who are known to be immune to Void-enslavement powers. She has a first name starting with S. Surname is Windrunner.

I think I've made it obvious enough if Venari hadn't already.

Void and Undeath magic cancel each other out so there's alot to fear from that.

Nah. I refuse to believe its sylvanas. She can do her community service a while longer without becoming our savior against the void.

One of Xal'athath's whispers during the chronicle says something that disturbed me a bit, I can't remember exactly but she says something like:

"Didn't they tell you who there were before the draenei?"

Do the naaru speak of the eternal conflict? That the entire history of your world is but a fraction of the time that has passed? Of those that came before the draenei? No? <short chuckle>

You mean that one?

[Cheezits]

Nah. I refuse to believe its sylvanas. She can do her community service a while longer without becoming our savior against the void.

For a variety of reasons, I predict Sylvanas will cross back over for Midnight, but she will go back to the Maw at the end after imparting some knowledge to her sisters and Calia. Cleaning the Maw, and also finding Nathanos, are her "never-ending penitence" baby jail because she helped kill and torture so many people across countless universes. But she can still cross over to temporarily help her homeland and the Forsaken.

If Alleria gets possessed or corrupted, she's definitely coming back to save her.

[Joshuaj]

Wellllllllllll unless Xal is lying K'aresh still lives to some extent

Oh ik. I just like being rude to my future enemies

[Ersula]

Wellllllllllll unless Xal is lying K'aresh still lives to some extent

Which is the writers remembering that a worldsoul actually dying would break the Arbiter again & hastily writing a line to cover their tracks.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

You mean that one?

Yeah, thank you! Do we know who they're talking about?

Otherwise, to get back to the Brokers, I think they were an insectoid race. In fact, they have a variant of the “spider” model that stands on 4 legs. As for the two-legged model, they end in a point, like insect legs.

As for the ethereals, all I can hope is that they weren't Khajiit. That would kill all their charisma...

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

What the F is Xal? Her homeworld was apparently destroyed by the Void but she serves them for some reason. Was she a worldsoul? Was she a demigod? Was she a person who was an adherent of the Void and was raised into a sort of godhood by it? I just don't get why she's so damn powerful if she isn't any of the above.

My theory is that Xal'atath was someone like Alleria; a mortal being with an affinity to the void. Through circumstances and choices, she delved deeper and deeper until she caught the attention of a higher void identity. In its crosshairs, she was led into falling deeper and deeper, until she was bound to the void and made to serve its will.

Which is what she is doing now to Alleria. Whether Xal'atath ever drank the cool aid or if it was always a matter of "there's nothing else to do" and she was always bidding the time to get on top, would be debatable. But the idea she was a moral being that has been growing in affinity and limits, to the point to rival a god; becoming a god, it's very interesting. Kinda like Illidan, but rather than a fated destiny by the Light, instead a happenstance of entropy.

[Foolicious]

Yeah, thank you! Do we know who they're talking about?

Otherwise, to get back to the Brokers, I think they were an insectoid race. In fact, they have a variant of the “spider” model that stands on 4 legs. As for the two-legged model, they end in a point, like insect legs.

As for the ethereals, all I can hope is that they weren't Khajiit. That would kill all their charisma...

Not that i can remember. I think xal implied that the naaru went around other worlds trying to convert them to the light. Maybe worlds with world souls, maybe worlds targeted by the burning legion.
Maybe its simply an abandoned plotpoint because at some point the army of the light was supposed to contain a ton of refugees from other worlds but when we meet them its just draenei.

[Nibelheimy]

Yeah, thank you! Do we know who they're talking about?

Otherwise, to get back to the Brokers, I think they were an insectoid race. In fact, they have a variant of the “spider” model that stands on 4 legs. As for the two-legged model, they end in a point, like insect legs.

As for the ethereals, all I can hope is that they weren't Khajiit. That would kill all their charisma...

If it is to go this direction, I can't help but feel Brokers would be feline. While the two peoples are similar, and I've not touched the PTR. If I was Blizzard and taking this route I'd show K'aresh having multiple races.

While Ethereals have been shown to have princes, both have cartels. Both deal in trade and commerce and subterfuge, but Ethereals feel more regal to me. Almost like the ruling class. Brokers have a more seedy undertone. They also almost have a purr to the way they speak. + they have cats.

I could see feline Brokers or Ethereals for sure. But am leaning towards Brokers taking that role. Again. None of this may even come to pass whatsoever. But still, what could Ethereals have looked like? Just Arabic styled human looking humanoids? Reptilians? Avians?

[Joshuaj]

Which is the writers remembering that a worldsoul actually dying would break the Arbiter again & hastily writing a line to cover their tracks.

So, you just straight up didn't pay attention during Legion and Shadowlands, did you?

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Argus went to the Arbiter cause its soul was infused with Death magic. K'aresh dying is not a reason for it to enter the Shadowlands lmao

[Merryck]

So, you just straight up didn't pay attention during Legion and Shadowlands, did you?

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Argus went to the Arbiter cause its soul was infused with Death magic. K'aresh dying is not a reason for it to enter the Shadowlands lmao

Also, Pelagos probably wouldn't even glitch out if K'aresh was sent his way since he isn't a machine.