The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[FossilFree]

ye, also thought of green orcs, and also yes - it literally says they repent in the description: "Witness Velen's prophecy of unexpected penitence unfold".
the only question is, what are these repentant eredar good for? draenei can be warlocks now, and a red skin with burning green eyes would be a perfect combo. but no, if you're red in .1.7, it means you did some kind of repentance and embraced the light in some capacity, which doesn't suit an unstoppable power-hungry fel addict at all. sadge.

They wouldn't forget all the forbidden knowledge they had from serving under the Legion. Many secrets there with much potential to exploit! Even just understanding how the Legion's technology works would be very useful to have from a new ally. Though that is almost certainly not Velen's motivation, which is more of a "bring the lost sheep back into the fold" sort of thing.

Edit: Also, the fel-infused version of a Man'ari could be easily achieved by unlocking draenei demon hunters. And seeing as this customization option is coming after warlocks were unlocked for draenei, and not before, it might be a clue to demon hunters being unlocked for draenei in a future patch (if not for everyone).

[Murlocos]

Demon hunters for more races will be coming really late, if at all. They require a lot of custom animation work that hasn't been ported over to other races like say, druid or monk animations have, as well as two models per race for Metamorphosis. Shaman and paladin are the first real art dumps needed to push them out to all races, the rest require several degrees more than that so I'm not expecting anything beyond those two classes for the rest of the expansion. I could see druid/DH/Evoker getting dripfed over the course of the next expansion.

[FossilFree]

Demon hunters for more races will be coming really late, if at all. They require a lot of custom animation work that hasn't been ported over to other races like say, druid or monk animations have, as well as two models per race for Metamorphosis. Shaman and paladin are the first real art dumps needed to push them out to all races, the rest require several degrees more than that so I'm not expecting anything beyond those two classes for the rest of the expansion. I could see druid/DH/Evoker getting dripfed over the course of the next expansion.

They may have already finished the art long ago and just kept things encrypted, much like the augmentation spec was. If that is the case, they can release them in whatever order they like to fit with story beats or whatever.

[Super Dickmann]

The big question is whether they will go for a dindu 'nuffin approach when it comes to Sylvanas, or lean way into post WW2 Germany.
I think it's fair to say that given the Lordaeronian crest it will focused quite a bit on them effectively being Lordaeron refugees in a sense..

It definitely looks unexpectedly suitable. Hopefully we'll get to see the state of the Forsaken and their society proper and see them remain something more conflicted instead of watching the entire Forsaken race fall lockstep into post-Anduinism.

Lordaeronian nationalism and Sylvanas being a good girl who dindu nuffin are compatible. Hell, it was the heart of the Cataclysm Forsaken standpoint, i.e the best one. Blizzard backtracked heavily on BTS in the Sylvanas book and in 9.2. This is the moment of truth if we can put the stake in it or if it'll have its revenge for being sidelined. Given Blizzard's track record, the most reasonable stance is that we won't be seeing BFA+BTS level of vivisecting the race visually and thematically, but likely something closer to the Calia adoption questline.

The Night Elf set is skimpy and therefore accurate.

The Man'ari addition is absolutely hilarious and that they're playable before Broken is even funnier.

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Forsaken are getting a new logo.

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...587517952?s=20

This on the other hand is ass, as is the Desolate Council tabard. There's already a remastered Darkshore version of the classic logo, just use that one. If you're going to do a new one meanwhile, about the continuity of Lordaeron and the Forsaken, just put the Lordaeron "L" at the center while keeping the skull ornamentation. The skull by itself could be for any faction.

[Hyde]

The Forsaken set's combination of the proper color scheme, the proper visual elements (skulls, grave, arrow motif with the spikes) along with the Lordaeronian crest captures probably the last universal thing you had after the Darkshore sets covered most everything else Forsaken. I fear the quest however.

I feel that the quest for the heritage armour might be us doing something for each of the council members hence why it's mixed all together.

[Super Dickmann]

I feel that the quest for the heritage armour might be us doing something for each of the council members hence why it's mixed all together.

The description of the Ensemble seems to confirm. The quest's also a test of the theory of whether the Council is a spook and it'll be all Calia, all the time, or if she gets co-equal screentime with the actual Forsaken characters around her.

[Raetary]

NELF HERITAGE

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...140815361?s=20

Oh lord, this looks quite promising!

[Scyth]

Data-mining is getting me more excited than 10.1.5 at the moment lol. Was pretty excited for the Time-Rifts at first but after doing one all that excitement went away

[FossilFree]

The vast majority of which had no choice in the matter, without hyperbole. Basically if you happened to be in any tribe other than Velen's, you were screwed. They were literally enslaved. They couldn't even die to escape demonic service. Honestly I can't wait to rp a Manari who are still pissed at the Draenei for abandoning them.

That's true. Enslavement and no chance of death would make at least a few of those Man'ari very resentful and happy for a way out.

[Super Dickmann]

That's true. Enslavement and no chance of death would make at least a few of those Man'ari very resentful and happy for a way out.

We know which Eredar ended up not joining up with the Legion and slowly degenerated via fel - it's the Broken. The Man'ari took it up willingly, they weren't victims. They were all aboard the cosmic domination train.

But more than that, making those recruited those reluctant to join the Legion is the boring choice. It's the same issue as having the Lightforged who join be moderates indistnguishable from your regular draenei. If you're going to add Man'ari, it's got to be the ones we've been killing, the various monologuing decadent pricks now returning to apparently, repent like KJ did. Repentance only works if you've got a rap sheet.

On that point, I do wonder re what @guro-tchai brought up regarding the skins. The eredar were just character skins on the draenei model and could use all draenei looks without issue. So either these aren't finalized or they're deliberately taking out the more mutated fel look, with the cracked skin and the green glow, which defeats the purpose.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Data-mining is getting me more excited than 10.1.5 at the moment lol. Was pretty excited for the Time-Rifts at first but after doing one all that excitement went away

i like time rifts, but i stopped doing it on alts because of lag best and bug fest, also wasn't getting weekly rewards for time rifts on alts, it feels like some early access.


About new datamined stuff i think NE armor is pretty good, not a fan of datamined herod armor pieces for warriors, another shoulders that look like a tincan and look weird on upright orcs, the 2h sword looks nice tho.

Forsaken heritage set looks okay i think, but i don't play have any undead chars and probably won't create one.

[Xilurm]

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...16704904155136

From the person who datamined the sets.

Bruh, like. I'll be the first one to say that I like the set, but this is a dumb take. Let people complain if they want. Fucking hell.

[Hitei]

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...16704904155136

From the person who datamined the sets.

Bruh, like. I'll be the first one to say that I like the set, but this is a dumb take. Let people complain if they want. Fucking hell.

How is this thread relevant, though?

[Fahrad Wagner]

10.0.7 looks like an absolute win for Blizzard so far- so many cool sets datamined, and that NE heritage armor? OOF, I want that!

[BaumanKing]

10.0.7 looks like an absolute win for Blizzard so far- so many cool sets datamined, and that NE heritage armor? OOF, I want that!

Here's a modern wow fan for you. Super exited to destroy established lore just to get some shiny stuff.

[Raetary]

The full nelf set is fantastic.

I just hope there are some more recolors.
I adore the blue one, but would love to see a classic purple and silver/gold one.

Here's a modern wow fan for you. Super exited to destroy established lore just to get some shiny stuff.

Destroy established lore by... adding racial/class item cosmetics? What?

[Nymrohd]

Yeah I like the cosmetics but I wish the lore made sense. Manari before Broken just because Manari are easy to do, even though it seems they are getting none of the Fel effects. Will that red Man'ari keep the gold Light of the Naaru graphic? Forsaken getting the most boring logo ever to replace Sylvanas' face; just give them the Lordaeron logo in purple and gold, perhaps with a skull on the background or just with skull decorations.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Here's a modern wow fan for you. Super exited to destroy established lore just to get some shiny stuff.

Been a WoW fan since I first started playing the game in 2008, so please keep your venom to yourself darling won't you? ♥
You're not the lore authority or the excitement police.
I like what I see, and I'm not going to apologise for it.

[ChronoSul]

Yeah I like the cosmetics but I wish the lore made sense. Manari before Broken just because Manari are easy to do, even though it seems they are getting none of the Fel effects. Will that red Man'ari keep the gold Light of the Naaru graphic? Forsaken getting the most boring logo ever to replace Sylvanas' face; just give them the Lordaeron logo in purple and gold, perhaps with a skull on the background or just with skull decorations.

curious if they are saving the fel effects for the lightforged varients of the Man'ari if they also get the addition customizations. Also ur 1000% right on why the Man'ari happened before the broken sucks to say but it is what it is

[Xilurm]

Here's a modern wow fan for you. Super exited to destroy established lore just to get some shiny stuff.

What lore is getting destroyed by the armour sets?