The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Alanar]

Blizzard has always seemed a bit disconnected with what players actually want. The Night Elf paladin has been something they've been teasing for 10+ years now. And every time they seem surprised that people actually want to play that.

I am super curious how the devs react to the professional community making videos with titles "new DH spec definitely coming" if they're not actually coming. Aug & Darkfallen elves turned out to be true but they were also making "Paladin for all races? Druid for all?" videos in dragonflight.

Ye its really strange, they keep going for something completely different or go for their own, new "exciting" () 2025 twist of a race no one seem to want.

Ofc visions and art direction or what ever, but it does come across as being completely out of touch. Its clear in this case (since bc) people like the Ethereals for what they are. Why re invent the wheel every single time when it can be so easy.

[Dracullus]

Leveling is so fast you wouldn't really notice big difference between leveling from 1 to 100 and from 88 to 100 in Last Titan. What this game really needs is separate mode for people who want slower and harder leveling. Just like dungeons - until Legion they used to be part of old leveling->dungeons->raids formula, but now they are alternative endgame path.

[Cheezits]

Ye its really strange, they keep going for something completely different or go for their own, new "exciting" () 2025 twist of a race no one seem to want.

Ofc visions and art direction or what ever, but it does come across as being completely out of touch. Its clear in this case (since bc) people like the Ethereals for what they are. Why re invent the wheel every single time when it can be so easy.

If we don't get simple Ethereals, I stand by the idea that they playtested and found that people could not vibe with faceless characters.

Not an ego thing, but a "we want to make as much money as possible" thing.

[Alanar]

If we don't get simple Ethereals, I stand by the idea that they playtested and found that people could not vibe with faceless characters.

Not an ego thing, but a "we want to make as much money as possible" thing.

I hardly believe that would be a thing. You are right about making money I guees, but Ethereals are literally ez fan service. Its just to easy and would generate enough hype. Look at Earthen, they clearly have no idea.

Again Ethereals are wanted since tbc. Their charme is what they are and we have seen alot of differnt face or masks. Would be stupid to give them faces with eyes, nose etc. Mskes no sense.

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Show me...

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Unless you mean to use that crappy Azshara expac login meme...

Multiple people have said this and he still didnt provide anything. Letting it drag. Seems like screaming for attention.

[Nightshade711]

Ye its really strange, they keep going for something completely different or go for their own, new "exciting" () 2025 twist of a race no one seem to want.

Ofc visions and art direction or what ever, but it does come across as being completely out of touch. Its clear in this case (since bc) people like the Ethereals for what they are. Why re invent the wheel every single time when it can be so easy.

Instead of Ethereals we’re getting a K’areshi race from before they were turned into Ethereals/Brokers.

[Hitei]

Someone linked me a picture of a glowing figure in underwater ruins... possibility of a new Midnight zone?

Was it the Eye of Azshara meme link?

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Leveling is so fast you wouldn't really notice big difference between leveling from 1 to 100 and from 88 to 100 in Last Titan. What this game really needs is separate mode for people who want slower and harder leveling. Just like dungeons - until Legion they used to be part of old leveling->dungeons->raids formula, but now they are alternative endgame path.

I just don't know how effective a use of dev time that is. It's not like people couldn't pick BC or WotLK chromietime and not put on BoA to drastically slow their leveling or not equip gear if they want some more challenge-modey-y type leveling experience. People just don't want to. I think if you implemented such a feature, one expansion cycle later (i.e. allowing for novelty to wear off) you'd, not exaggerating, see less than 1% opt-in for it.

[Nibelheimy]

I have to say I think the amount of people that would have a problem with Ethereals not having faces must be relatively minor. That's almost sort of the appeal with them. There are people that don't like short races, just let them not play Goblins, Gnomes and Vulpera. It's the same as any other cosmetic difference the races have. If you don't like horns don't play Tuaren, if you don't like having exposed toe bones don't play undead. If you don't like not having a face, don't play Ethereal.

I just can't see that factor having a drastic impression on their decision to making them playable.

[Joshuaj]

Will this be the first month we have no housing article? Crazy...

Are they saving more info for gamescom? Or?

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Will this be the first month we have no housing article? Crazy...

Are they saving more info for gamescom? Or?

It's not for long, so... yeah, maybe. Apart from the exterior personalization and the functioning of the neighborhoods, we know just about everything. They'll probably want to save some info for Midnight's reveal.

[micwini]

To be fair, they’ve used the exact same wording of “no plans” before for things that have been added.
Such as the Evoker third spec.

"no plans" is PRspeak.
If you are already working on something, you have "no plans". You're already executing them.
If you are already done, there are "no plans".

On the other hand, if you actually don't have plans, you can still use the same 2 words.

So it is an answer that means nothing in essence. You can only look at the real evidence, like the added gleeful glamour.

[Hitei]

If you are already working on something, you have "no plans". You're already executing them.

That's not true at all.

[Marlamin]

They can easily say "no plans" in context of the 11.2.0 PTR interviews, same as Ion did in context for (I think) 10.1.0 PTR at the time. They're obviously not going to talk about future patches when talking about what on the PTR and it's silly on wasting questions asking so.

[Reive]

no housing article

see you tomorrow

[Enexa von der Exodar]

Jintha'Alor will be my favourite dungeon in Midnight.

[Joshuaj]

It's not for long, so... yeah, maybe. Apart from the exterior personalization and the functioning of the neighborhoods, we know just about everything. They'll probably want to save some info for Midnight's reveal.

I mean...I'd like to see a housing article

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no housing article

see you tomorrow

Lmao I fucking hate MoP Classic

[milkmustache]

They can easily say "no plans" in context of the 11.2.0 PTR interviews, same as Ion did in context for (I think) 10.1.0 PTR at the time. They're obviously not going to talk about future patches when talking about what on the PTR and it's silly on wasting questions asking so.

This is my thoughts too. Playable Ethereal are not an 11.2 feature... it could either be 11.2.5, or it sorta feels as if it could be a Midnight preorder bonus, immediately available sort of thing.

[Marlamin]

This is my thoughts too. Playable Ethereal are not an 11.2 feature... it could either be 11.2.5, or it sorta feels as if it could be a Midnight preorder bonus, immediately available sort of thing.

Yeah, no clue really, I personally still don't see enough evidence towards them being playable. They're about on par with several Shadowlands/Dragonflight NPC models in terms of complexity as of right now. The Haranir still have more going for them even with the speculated 'change of course'.

[Hitei]

They can easily say "no plans" in context of the 11.2.0 PTR interviews, same as Ion did in context for (I think) 10.1.0 PTR at the time. They're obviously not going to talk about future patches when talking about what on the PTR and it's silly on wasting questions asking so.

I just want to reiterate that as far as I'm aware, they did not say "no plans" re: Augmentation. People are misconstruing a paraphrase.

What was said was, and here is the actual quote:

And so that's kind of what led us down that path for Evoker. And regardless of what the future may hold when it comes to thinking about extra specs for any class, and still get asked questions about Demon Hunter, about, you know, people want to tank Shaman. I totally get it. We still want to stay true to the core of the class fantasy when we think about what direction we might go. But yeah, and again, just to restate, there is no hidden third spec in 10.1.

"No plans" is PR speak for Blizzard, but it has a relatively consistent meaning; it typically means "not on our radar but not impossible":



Having plans to do a thing and saying there are no plans isn't really PR speak so much as just straight up lying, which they like to avoid.

[Marlamin]

I just want to reiterate that as far as I'm aware, they did not say "no plans" re: Augmentation. People are misconstruing a paraphrase.

Guess the community misconstrued that as they usually do, then.

[Hitei]

Guess the community misconstrued that as they usually do, then.

By the time it goes from what a dev says -> interview transcript -> wowhead summarizing -> (content creator talking about the wowhead article on stream) -> people paraphrasing what they read on wowhead or heard in stream on a forum like MMO-C... it's already a game of telephone. That's how we ended up with "Sylvanas is morally gray" for years.