The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Al Gorefiend]

The dungeon/raid mount buff is actually insane. Hats off to Blizz.

Is this live

[Joshuaj]

Weird how Xal called Elune an upstart goddess when she's looking more like that every patch. She's not an Old God, she's not K'aresh..

I know a lot of people want Azshara to return as some sort of Void Empress. I personally hope that's not the case, I see her comments on the true throne of power being something Independant and probably Azeroth itself.

But if Azshara does return as void aligned she's going to feel quite similar to Xal, I think that would be a mistake.

I don't think Azshara is gonna be Void Empress. Considering the spoilers...the other one is more likely to be that

[Cheezits]

Actually, it makes a lot of sense that Xal and Elune are similar- both could have started as mortals that achieved godhood through unusual methods.

Elune's method is a mystery, but probably tied to the Naaru somehow. For Xal, it would be mortal, void-enhanced herald, then godhood if she is able to absorb dimensius's remains inside the dark heart

The Sunwell could be a part of her plan, or it's truly just Azshara, but I think Xal makes more sense though it would make the player look like an idiot.

[Edoll]

Is this live

Not until July 1st.

[Lolites]

It can't go either direction, this is enough information to know we're not getting a full Northern Lordaeron revamp. They clearly mentioned the area we're going to visit

yea, like when talking about TWW in the "saga introduction" they mentioned K'aresh, and Undermine...
hell until they got to TWW details they did not even mention Dorne and Hallowfall (or arathi)...


"we will go to quel thalas" means we will go to quel thalas, not that we will go ONLY to quel thalas and not even step outside...
i mean its unlikely we will get whole norh of EK revamped but to say it cant happen bcs of what was mentioned at blizzcon is silly at best and outright idiotic at worst...

[enexa]

Something tells me we're not yet finished with the Beledar Crystal in Hallowfall, the vast Undeasea and that weird squid named "The Guardian". Maybe it's protecting whatever is in the underground sea and we're yet to find out. Wasn't there a short quest line about old god stuff down there and the teases that Beledars light doesn't go under water and there is old god blood. Not sure we're finished with all of that, despite heading to Karesh soon.

<3 Happy Weekend Everyone <3

[Teriz]

I kind of agree with Teriz, if TLT has a big Ulduar and Titan focus, it's actually better than Mechagon or Undermine to introduce tinkers!

Yeah, I can also imagine Blizzard using the "Titan technology" angle to make the class seem "cooler" and more interesting despite it being likely to still use G/G tech assets. However, the Titan tech angle does open it up to some interesting potential hero talents.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

"we will go to quel thalas" means we will go to quel thalas, not that we will go ONLY to quel thalas and not even step outside...
i mean its unlikely we will get whole norh of EK revamped but to say it cant happen bcs of what was mentioned at blizzcon is silly at best and outright idiotic at worst...

Yeah, tell them.

I mean, it's possible we're confined only to Quel'thalas, but to state that categorically is silly until we have more information.

[Joshuaj]

Actually, it makes a lot of sense that Xal and Elune are similar- both could have started as mortals that achieved godhood through unusual methods.

Elune's method is a mystery, but probably tied to the Naaru somehow. For Xal, it would be mortal, void-enhanced herald, then godhood if she is able to absorb dimensius's remains inside the dark heart

The Sunwell could be a part of her plan, or it's truly just Azshara, but I think Xal makes more sense though it would make the player look like an idiot.

It's possible Elune is simply a Life Goddess who's spreading her influence using a bunch of other powers. Would explain the upstart aspect of her

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Something tells me we're not yet finished with the Beledar Crystal in Hallowfall, the vast Undeasea and that weird squid named "The Guardian". Maybe it's protecting whatever is in the underground sea and we're yet to find out. Wasn't there a short quest line about old god stuff down there and the teases that Beledars light doesn't go under water and there is old god blood. Not sure we're finished with all of that, despite heading to Karesh soon.

<3 Happy Weekend Everyone <3

Yeah we don't know why the emperor wanted Beledar in the first place. Maybe he wants to harness its power for Renilash? We'll see.

As for the Guardian, I think it's just an easter egg from Baldur's Gate. As for the rest of your message, they're just zone secondary intrigues. I don't think we'll be coming back to them.

Happy weekend to you <3

[Enrif]

Yeah we don't know why the emperor wanted Beledar in the first place. Maybe he wants to harness its power for Renilash? We'll see.

There is a very pragmatic reason why the emporer might have sent the expedition to Beledar, but it is kind of a boring one.

The reason: So they meet us the players, and through us can join the combat against the void.

I mean, as it stands, we can assume the Hallowfall Arathi will join us in Midnight.

[Viridiel]

Something tells me we're not yet finished with the Beledar Crystal in Hallowfall, the vast Undeasea and that weird squid named "The Guardian". Maybe it's protecting whatever is in the underground sea and we're yet to find out. Wasn't there a short quest line about old god stuff down there and the teases that Beledars light doesn't go under water and there is old god blood. Not sure we're finished with all of that, despite heading to Karesh soon.

<3 Happy Weekend Everyone <3

If N'zoth is going to come back in some form, it really should have something to do with the Undersea or the Underlight (which I believe to be a location somewhere across the Undersea).

I was thinking about it recently. N'zoth talks about being imprisoned beneath the waves, but where he was wasn't underwater until the Shattering. Unless he was actually in the Undersea beneath ancient Kalimdor.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

There is a very pragmatic reason why the emporer might have sent the expedition to Beledar, but it is kind of a boring one.

The reason: So they meet us the players, and through us can join the combat against the void.

I mean, as it stands, we can assume the Hallowfall Arathi will join us in Midnight.

Don't you think it would have been simpler to send expeditions to their native continent than to search for a crystal lost in the middle of nowhere on an unknown island if the aim was to meet us?

[Mackud]

Actually, it makes a lot of sense that Xal and Elune are similar- both could have started as mortals that achieved godhood through unusual methods.

Elune's method is a mystery, but probably tied to the Naaru somehow. For Xal, it would be mortal, void-enhanced herald, then godhood if she is able to absorb dimensius's remains inside the dark heart

The Sunwell could be a part of her plan, or it's truly just Azshara, but I think Xal makes more sense though it would make the player look like an idiot.

Elune isn't a god though if you follow Tauren religion.

Keyword is religion, an entity is worshipped in different ways. Just because the Night Elves worship Elune as a God, doesn't mean the Tauren do, or the Harnair for that matter.
It's like saying Christians, Muslims and Jews worship the same god. Just utter rubbish. The latter 2 acknowledge the existence of Jesus Christ but he's definitely not a god in their eyes and it's the exact same scenario here.

[Nightshade711]

I’m curious to see what story we get in 11.2.x leading up to Midnight.

I’m thinking they scrapped the rootlands - since some of the assets that were supposed to be used there now show up in the eco-domes.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

I’m thinking they scrapped the rootlands - since some of the assets that were supposed to be used there now show up in the eco-domes.

I honestly wonder if it wasn't a good thing. If the fox and the other deer were part of the Rootlands fauna, it wasn't very sophisticated or inspired... Meh.

[Cheezits]

I’m thinking they scrapped the rootlands - since some of the assets that were supposed to be used there now show up in the eco-domes.

They will be back. If the Worldcore has been postponed to the end of the saga, the roots of Elun'ahir are supposed to be around it, and they are likely to be under either Sholozar Basin or Un'goro Crater (both of are likely to be a part of TLT for different reasons)

[Teriz]

I honestly wonder if it wasn't a good thing. If the fox and the other deer were part of the Rootlands fauna, it wasn't very sophisticated or inspired... Meh.

It's a good thing. Undermine and Ka'resh are far more interesting than an underground forest.

[Khaza-R]

I’m curious to see what story we get in 11.2.x leading up to Midnight.

I’m thinking they scrapped the rootlands - since some of the assets that were supposed to be used there now show up in the eco-domes.

They'll probably continue the trend of it being Arathi based. Setting up whatever arc they are going to have for Midnight. I could see an envoy from the emperor arriving and shaking things up.

[Joshuaj]

They'll probably continue the trend of it being Arathi based. Setting up whatever arc they are going to have for Midnight. I could see an envoy from the emperor arriving and shaking things up.

My theory:

12.2.5: Summ Arathi based

12.2.7: Summ Elven based