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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    11.2 datamining has begun.
    *ascends*

    Finally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I'd like to again point out that we're about to have an entire patch about void stuff culiminating in fighting the Void's big bad... right before an entire expansion about fighting the Void.
    Been saying it:

    This expac Dimensius

    Next expac Void Empress Azshara!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    11.2 datamining has begun.
    Hurraaaay!

  3. #93343
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I'd like to again point out that we're about to have an entire patch about void stuff culiminating in fighting the Void's big bad... right before an entire expansion about fighting the Void.
    I think the reasoning is that, similar to Legion, the bulk of launch content will not be about fighting the void outside of concentrated areas. Like Legion, it'll be elf wonderworld (for the most part) and fighting zone threats before we course correct to purple poo.

    I think this heavily points towards the first raid being Scourge and/or Amani instead of void, as a palate cleanser.

  4. #93344
    I think it's another reason why they announced the Saga to begin with; this swerve is far easier to digest if players understand that the expansion is part one of an overarching three-part story. It's not like in WoD where the expansion suddenly because about the Legion which in hindsight made sense after, well, Legion was revealed but at first seemed like an anticlimatic asspull.

    I'm letting Blizzard cook. Albeit I'd really like an Ethereal Mage or Rogue and would be disappointed if the race never becomes playable despite all the pieces seemingly being there.
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  5. #93345
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuaj View Post
    Been saying it:

    This expac Dimensius

    Next expac Void Empress Azshara!
    The bosses in question are less important in this case than the fact that Blizzard is about to identically repeat the exact mistake they made with SoO into WoD and Hellfire into Legion.

  6. #93346
    About whether Karesh fits the War Within: it depends on how Blizzard sells the story. If the story is about how much Karesh's world soul suffered before its destruction, this patch can show the process (and maybe list the signs) of how the Void Lords possess a world soul.

    For example: 1. Karesh started to bleed ("azerite"), 2. Karesh screamed for help (the song), 3. Karesh cannot hold the infection: creatures were corrupted by the void, 4. The fever is too high: the elements go crazy around the world, 6. Karesh is dying: earthquakes and void energy surges around the world.

    This patch can set the signs for Midnight.

    My prediction

    - I agree; the Dark Heart will trap Dimensius. Whether he is used to infect Azeroth or to upgrade Xal remains to be seen.

    - I think Midnight will be a race to control Azeroth. The void will attack the Rootlands, and the Void will start to betray each other.

    - I think we will have 3 contenders: Xal/Dimensius, Azshara and Nzoth. I think Nzoth will appear last, trying to possess Azeroth on the very last minute.

    - I think the Void will keep winning during Midnight. If Xal is defeated is because Azshara raised to power and so on. Maybe we got some Void allies who think it isn't the right time to conquer Azeroth.

    - The Void will be defeated because all the Titan's machines will activate a last firewall that even the Void Lords weren't able to predict.

  7. #93347
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    The bosses in question are less important in this case than the fact that Blizzard is about to identically repeat the exact mistake they made with SoO into WoD and Hellfire into Legion.
    Whatcha mean? Think the final boss ain't gonna be Void related or?

  8. #93348
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    The bosses in question are less important in this case than the fact that Blizzard is about to identically repeat the exact mistake they made with SoO into WoD and Hellfire into Legion.
    Considering people love Legion and say it's the best expansion, I'm not sure what you mean by mistake. The launch was clearly visually distinct enough to keep people playing.

  9. #93349
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I think the reasoning is that, similar to Legion, the bulk of launch content will not be about fighting the void outside of concentrated areas. Like Legion, it'll be elf wonderworld (for the most part) and fighting zone threats before we course correct to purple poo.

    I think this heavily points towards the first raid being Scourge and/or Amani instead of void, as a palate cleanser.
    Yeah but at that point where was the redundancy you brought up? DF was primarily an elements/dragons expansion, not LIfe or World Tree stuff, and TWW is primarily a shadow/nerubian expansion.

  10. #93350
    Quote Originally Posted by KainneAbsolute View Post
    About whether Karesh fits the War Within: it depends on how Blizzard sells the story. If the story is about how much Karesh's world soul suffered before its destruction, this patch can show the process (and maybe list the signs) of how the Void Lords possess a world soul.

    For example: 1. Karesh started to bleed ("azerite"), 2. Karesh screamed for help (the song), 3. Karesh cannot hold the infection: creatures were corrupted by the void, 4. The fever is too high: the elements go crazy around the world, 6. Karesh is dying: earthquakes and void energy surges around the world.

    This patch can set the signs for Midnight.

    My prediction

    - I agree; the Dark Heart will trap Dimensius. Whether he is used to infect Azeroth or to upgrade Xal remains to be seen.

    - I think Midnight will be a race to control Azeroth. The void will attack the Rootlands, and the Void will start to betray each other.

    - I think we will have 3 contenders: Xal/Dimensius, Azshara and Nzoth. I think Nzoth will appear last, trying to possess Azeroth on the very last minute.

    - I think the Void will keep winning during Midnight. If Xal is defeated is because Azshara raised to power and so on. Maybe we got some Void allies who think it isn't the right time to conquer Azeroth.

    - The Void will be defeated because all the Titan's machines will activate a last firewall that even the Void Lords weren't able to predict.
    This is a silly theory, cause the Light and Renilash need to take part in this. I don't think Titan machinery will be involved here

  11. #93351
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Yeah but at that point where was the redundancy you brought up? DF was primarily an elements/dragons expansion, not LIfe or World Tree stuff, and TWW is primarily a shadow/nerubian expansion.
    DF 10.2 and Rootlands would have been incredibly redundant with the night elf(ish) people, verdant life theme and protecting a world tree from glowing bad sloppa.

  12. #93352
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Considering people love Legion and say it's the best expansion, I'm not sure what you mean by mistake. The launch was clearly visually distinct enough to keep people playing.
    ??? Were you not around for when Legion actually happened? Because it was complained about often and by the time we got to Argus people were thoroughly sick of and complaining about how they'd been fighting fel green stuff for going on three years.

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    Let's find out more about these Void Demon Hunters ... If they're added, and Void Elves can play them, I might actually roll one.

  14. #93354
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    DF 10.2 and Rootlands would have been incredibly redundant with the night elf(ish) people, verdant life theme and protecting a world tree from glowing bad sloppa.
    Yes, my guy. Like fighting the void now is even more redundant to the inevitable "banish the void" of us fighting not-dimensius Xal'atath or Azshara, or whoever and their void forces. Hello?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    11.2 datamining has begun.
    Daddy parrot, give us some mounts pleaaase.

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