The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

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Backside of Azeroth, Azshara and South Seas, or K'aresh definitely for me.

I'm certainly interested to see what K'aresh has to offer, at least assuming that Blizzard can withhold the incredible creativity that brought us the First Ones. We haven't really had a principally middle eastern aesthetic front-and-center in any expansion, and the ethereal race has scarcely been explored since its introduction.

[Nymrohd]

So team world revamp.

Is there any expansion that would get you as excited as a world revamp would?

Maybe Karesh for me.

As much? Maybe Underground expac. But nah, nothing would get me as excited as revamp. Doesn't me I won't be happy with so many other options but nothing can equal a revamp.

[Fahrad Wagner]

As much? Maybe Underground expac. But nah, nothing would get me as excited as revamp. Doesn't me I won't be happy with so many other options but nothing can equal a revamp.

Preach

[Aeluron Lightsong]

As much? Maybe Underground expac. But nah, nothing would get me as excited as revamp. Doesn't me I won't be happy with so many other options but nothing can equal a revamp.

Underground expansion seems unlikely now with Zaralek caverns but...who knows.

[Nymrohd]

Underground expansion seems unlikely now with Zaralek caverns but...who knows.

My concept is something like Hyjal Barrows & Terramok Caverns joining beneath Kalimdor, Blackrock Mountain and Uldaman's depths joining beneath Khaz Modan, Azjol'Nerub, then Khaz Algar. I've added into the concept an underground underwater area that is effectively where the Maelstrom breaks the crust. Add the assumption that like Argus, Azeroth is hollow inside with the World Soul shining so there would also be an area on the inside of the planet with heavy Titan machinery overlooking the World Soul.

[Xilurm]

So team world revamp.

Is there any expansion that would get you as excited as a world revamp would?

Maybe Karesh for me.

Well. Emerald Dream. Azshara underwater expansion. Argus.

Now we definitely ain't getting either of these, so world revamp it is. Which we probably ain't getting either. So fuck me I guess.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

So team world revamp.

Is there any expansion that would get you as excited as a world revamp would?

Maybe Karesh for me.

Honestly, I think the concept that they are hinting at is fine if N'zoth shows up and he actually is redeemed as the master manipulator that he was supposed to prior to his BFA appearance. Especially because at this point the main narrative is essentially just fan service for those among us who cared about the storyline during this down period so it would be weird to not go all the way with this absurdity.

I just really want to see the World Soul problem be dealt with this Narrative Team desperately need to excise the World Soul storyline from the game.

Again, World Revamp would be the best for everyone involved on multiple grounds but I am pretty happy with:

Azshara Expansion, South Seas Expansion, Avaloren Expansion, K'aresh Expansion/Offworld Expansion, Other Side of Azeroth Expansion, Gnome/Goblin Tech Underground Expansion.

I am definitely wary of the similarities between Legion and this upcoming concept. If they just mash Yrel, Azshara, Void. I just think the Narrative Team suck when there's too much going on and while they can always construct epic moments with this many possibilities I don't like the fact their toolbox is that large.

I am definitely also worried that there's a Reorigination Machine inside Emerald Dream that may lead to a new Azeroth, as well but yeah I don't think they will take that risk.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

My concept is something like Hyjal Barrows & Terramok Caverns joining beneath Kalimdor, Blackrock Mountain and Uldaman's depths joining beneath Khaz Modan, Azjol'Nerub, then Khaz Algar. I've added into the concept an underground underwater area that is effectively where the Maelstrom breaks the crust. Add the assumption that like Argus, Azeroth is hollow inside with the World Soul shining so there would also be an area on the inside of the planet with heavy Titan machinery overlooking the World Soul.

I think there should be a lot of lava near the core though and...hopefully Earthen are actually there.... and much more that I could go on but in concept, the closer you get to the world soul, the more Titan influence you see, and of course you got to have massive Old God tentacles in some zone somewhere.

[Sondrelk]

So team world revamp.

Is there any expansion that would get you as excited as a world revamp would?

Maybe Karesh for me.

South Seas expansion with underwater zones and player ships/housing.
The ship would function like the Vindicaar in terms of moving you around the zones, and you would explore all kinds of interesting areas.

Probably not going to happen though. Especially not the underwater zones part. I know players seemed to hate it, but Vashj'ir is still one of my all time favorite zones. Possibly even my most favorite one.

[Chickat]

South Seas expansion with underwater zones and player ships/housing.
The ship would function like the Vindicaar in terms of moving you around the zones, and you would explore all kinds of interesting areas.

Probably not going to happen though. Especially not the underwater zones part. I know players seemed to hate it, but Vashj'ir is still one of my all time favorite zones. Possibly even my most favorite one.

I don't think wow could handle it but I would love actual ship control with ship to ship pvp combat and boarding. Maybe a few pirate bgs

Procedural islands to plunder generated new every week.

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South Seas expansion with underwater zones and player ships/housing.
The ship would function like the Vindicaar in terms of moving you around the zones, and you would explore all kinds of interesting areas.

Probably not going to happen though. Especially not the underwater zones part. I know players seemed to hate it, but Vashj'ir is still one of my all time favorite zones. Possibly even my most favorite one.

South Seas expansion with underwater zones and ships/housing

Hello 8.0 speculation thread, we've returned

[Myrrh]

Honestly, I think the concept that they are hinting at is fine if N'zoth shows up and he actually is redeemed as the master manipulator that he was supposed to prior to his BFA appearance. Especially because at this point the main narrative is essentially just fan service for those among us who cared about the storyline during this down period so it would be weird to not go all the way with this absurdity.

Assuming the writers are aiming for the idea that N'zoth took the weird, self-destructive actions he did because he saw us in our jaunt to the past and planned accordingly to actually free himself, I think that would more or less redeem him as a schemer.

However, in my view his character would still be massively cheapened if he reenters the story only sign on with Team Harbinger alongside Azshara. Personally I'm hoping for a civil war amongst the Void-aligned as they compete for the so-called 'primal power' that naga book mentions, as it would let them lean in to the more chaotic nature of the Void.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I don't think they will ever do only underwater zones again, at least i hope so, from all the zones in wow after many years of playing, i only went through Vashj'ir once and hated it, it can go to the same trash bin with The maw.

About ships, maybe they will have some vrykul build smaller ships for us(that can be used, because i don't think we would get large ass ships) and we will be pillaging some areas, viking style.

[Well Done Steak]

This is what 11.0 is...

It's not a world revamp, people need to get off of this.

11.0 is light vs void.

Team void has been set up with major characters being Xal, Azshara, and looks like Iridikron.

Team light however, is being set up.

The events of Dawn has mOre than likely sent Yrel and her forces somewhere in Azeroth and are assessing their situation. They will probably make allies with the scarlet crusade.

The staging ground will be....

Ka'resh.

That's right, the last place in the physical universe that a void lord was able to physically manifest

[Alanar]

South Seas expansion with underwater zones and player ships/housing.
The ship would function like the Vindicaar in terms of moving you around the zones, and you would explore all kinds of interesting areas.

Probably not going to happen though. Especially not the underwater zones part. I know players seemed to hate it, but Vashj'ir is still one of my all time favorite zones. Possibly even my most favorite one.

What we could have gotten..

Bfa should have been this expansion honestly.

Vashj'ir holds a special place for me, imo it was such a unique experience.The ocean is probably one if not the scariest place on earth and Vashj'ir was able to catch that feeling pretty well.

[KainneAbsolute]

I think we get a new continent (Avaloren), and Azeroth is going to be born. Then, we get the revamp.

[Pheraz]

It really comes down to how they want to frame the revamp.

Is Azeroth corrupted or does she remain pure?

If corrupt, do we cleanse her and if so when?

Is she literally removed from the planet as a Dark Titan, or does she remain inside?

Does the revamp emphasise the elemental and "earthy" part of Azeroth, is it more avoid the world-soul and how it affects everything. Void and light effects? The Emerald Dream seeping through? It's hard to tell.

A revamp could begin as a corrupted version of Azeroth which we purge to make it look pretty. If so, what WE think of as a revamp might take place at the end of the expansion.

A revamp could be pure and pretty right away, either at the start or the end of the expansion.

What we do know is that thousands of assets have been remade over the past five years, suitable for zones like Ashenvale, Dun Morough and Elwynn Forest as they appear today. Intact buildings, beautiful effects, etc.

This leads me to believe that we start off the revamp journey in 10.3 or 11.0 with an either corrupt or neutral Azeroth. The revamp might happen right away, but it also makes sense if we first have to purify Azeroth and restore her. That would make for a very satisfying revamp storyline. Azeroth is "reborn" or "finally purged" after all these years.

If they do the revamp they should really not repeat themselves and stomp the main theme of the expansionn into almost every zone. They need to make ever green content with local threats. Then ofc phasing in some zones with an endgame/epic drama layer

[Woggmer]

So team world revamp.

Is there any expansion that would get you as excited as a world revamp would?

Maybe Karesh for me.

We've been to Argus, The Emerald Dream doesn't offer much [hence why Blizz has never dedicated a full expansion to it], We've went through the Shadowlands [and regretted it ever going there], We've found the lost gnome city of Mechagon, We've been to Nazjatar [which was referenced as far back as TBC in Azuremyst], We've gone to the Dragon Isles.

The only places we haven't gone to is the Undermine [supposedly the main central hub of where all goblins congregate], Avaloren [which is only ever mentioned in name by Odyn and the Titan constructs searching for it], and Tel'Abim [which all we know about it is that people get Bananas from there but otherwise has been a meme.]

There's also apparently other Zeriths of each of the six corresponding cosmic powers and we already went to Zerith Mortis. [But I doubt Blizz would repeat the same content again if every Zerith looks EXACTLY like Zerith Mortis did.]

But apart from ALL that, A revamp is the next big course of action. As despite how much people say "We've discovered everything there is to see on Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms" That's not the point.. The point is that it's been 10 - 12 years since the events of the Cataclysm and the world has went through some significant changes since then and that it needs to reflected. [Hell, the almost the entire Night Watch in Darkshire joined the Legion when it invaded and had every residence under lockdown or killed on the spot. With only one guy being the only one that didn't get indoctrinated and trying to keep civilians safe from the Night Watch.]
And even the Mission Tables from BFA also show signs of the Alliance and Horde taking control of various key points across both continents [like the fact that the Alliance got Southshore back and is trying to clean it up, or the fact that the Gilneans seized Fenris Isle in Silverpine Forest. (Would've been nice if it wasn't part of the Mission Table and was actual stuff that we were part of instead of having to focus on fixing Azeroth and her Wounds... or other bunch of stuff that was happening all at once.)]

And even if a Revamp seems impossible [either because time, resources, money, or because Activision is being unreasonable] then at least update the questlines and stories to reflect the changes. It's not a full revamp, but a reintroduction to the old world and how much has changed... Remind people why we keep having to save this damn planet from so many otherworldly threats yet nobody ever takes two steps outside of Stormwind or Orgrimmar unless it was to go farm old raids and dungeons.

[Fahrad Wagner]

If they do the revamp they should really not repeat themselves and stomp the main theme of the expansionn into almost every zone. They need to make ever green content with local threats. Then ofc phasing in some zones with an endgame/epic drama layer

I completely agree, zones need to be somewhat disconnected from the expansion's big drama so that they can remain evergreen content

[micwini]

So team world revamp.

Is there any expansion that would get you as excited as a world revamp would?

Maybe Karesh for me.

No. The new island, 8 dungeons, 1 raid followed by 1 zone with rares and 1 raid, is starting to get stale. They need to do something to spice it all up.