The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

Liadrin: ''We have been saving the world while Night elves were hiding in the trees''...

Like wtf was that? The whole BfA, starting with allied race recruitments didnt make any sense.

Yeah, I'll never get over that line.

[Limayria]

plot twist that its always been arator and Velen is bad at telling blonde twinks apart

I agree. But maybe there's a chance to make Veressa more interesting in Midnight. I can't help but feel she might just end up being emotional fodder for Alleria and Sylvanas coming together to defend Silvermoon.

On a sidenote about Blood Knights, its such a shame they dropped that arc so quickly. The whole Horde was so much more interesting when it had dark elements without necessarily being evil.

the fact they just gave the blood elves back a light infused sunwell so fast really betrayed what made them unique and intersting

[Hitei]

the fact they just gave the blood elves back a light infused sunwell so fast really betrayed what made them unique and intersting

Now's the time to fix that.

[Alanar]

I agree. But maybe there's a chance to make Veressa more interesting in Midnight. I can't help but feel she might just end up being emotional fodder for Alleria and Sylvanas coming together to defend Silvermoon.

On a sidenote about Blood Knights, its such a shame they dropped that arc so quickly. The whole Horde was so much more interesting when it had dark elements without necessarily being evil.

Honestly, I am not sure if I really want more of Vereesa. She is like the third wheel, has no real story that stood out or had any power ups to compete. It would probably not feel good, if they forcefully create that for her simply to make her interesting. I am just not a fan of her, never was.

Yes, the og blood knight had a cool hook and purpose back then. The use of the light and bending it to their will was a new take and refreshing. They were interesting. Sadly there is nothing left of it anymore, hence Liadrin feels like a shadow of her former self.

[Makorus]

Liadrin: ''We have been saving the world while Night elves were hiding in the trees''...

Like wtf was that? The whole BfA, starting with allied race recruitments didnt make any sense.

Is that such a out of character line though?

Liadrin has always been arrogant.

People have this obsession to treat every single of piece of character dialogue as Blizzards word of god every time a character is anything but bland, yet at the same time complain that characters lack edge.

This is the way Blizzard described her as of Alpha Legion:

Lady Liadrin has been called many things - zealous, arrogant, short-tempered - but the Blood Knight Matriarch has never been bothered by such pleasantries. Call her what you will, but in Liadrin's eyes there is precisely one thing that matters: the complete and utter destruction of the Burning Legion.

This is the exact person to shit on someone else to prop yourself up.

[Alanar]

Now's the time to fix that.

I have said it so many times, but losing the sunwell will only propel the story for the blood elves. They are to safe and the only way to retun to old habits(what seem to be what people want drom blood elves) is to return to their older selves.

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Is that such a out of character line though?

Liadrin has always been arrogant.

People have this obsession to treat every single of piece of character dialogue as Blizzards word of god every time a character is anything but bland, yet at the same time complain that characters lack edge.

I wasnt really bothered with that line either. I remember her as being arrogant as well.

Maybe it was because the nightborne went to the horde that was the real hate of that scene and not so much about her. Hell even Tyrande has super weird lines in that time.. acting all hatefull for no reason. There was lots to hate lol.

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Vereesa was only made so Knaak's self insert could have a hot elf wife.

It will always haunt Vereesa and how she is really nothing.

[Cheezits]

Honestly, I am not sure if I really want more of Vereesa. She is like the third wheel, has no real story that stood out or had any power ups to compete. It would probably not feel good, if they forcefully create that for her simply to make her interesting. I am just not a fan of her, never was.

There isn't enough Vereesa to get sick of IMO, she doesn't have much character besides "token elf gf" (thanks Knaak!) and drastically could use a character rehaul. Think Gallywix and Rokhan finally getting some extra characterization in BFA.

Let her be a badass Silver Convenant champion now that her boys are older and Ronin is gone gone.

[Makorus]

I just don't think Vereesa really has purpose when Alleria and Jaina are already characters.

At best, she'll be used as a death to advance the plot.

[Alanar]

There isn't enough Vereesa to get sick of IMO, she doesn't have much character besides "token elf gf" (thanks Knaak!) and drastically could use a character rehaul. Think Gallywix and Rokhan finally getting some extra characterization in BFA.

Let her be a badass Silver Convenant champion now that her boys are older and Ronin is gone gone.

Adding a bunch of things for her or giving her some powerboost to keep up isnt going to help her character. She will be the third windrunner after the the two popular ones. Her past is also nothing to refer back to.

If she will be back in the future it will essentially be a new character with this weird backround. Just as Alleria, same shit, but atleast she had the heroic past people liked from thr old days and she was speculated upon for literal years and years. Vereesa has nothing to be excited about imo.

She is already this silver covenant leader, idk who cares.. but sure what ever.

[Wyrt]

She is already this silver covenant leader, idk who cares.. but sure what ever.

The militant hate group has no purpose now that Dalaran is destroyed. She's the leader of nothing.

[Alanar]

The militant hate group has no purpose now that Dalaran is destroyed. She's the leader of nothing.

Makes you wonder whats even left of the Silver covenant or the remaining high elves in general. They could always create new ones out of thin air, so it sadly means nothing I think.

[elbleuet]

The militant hate group has no purpose now that Dalaran is destroyed. She's the leader of nothing.

She's gonna be the High elf Representant in Silvermoon when the city will be made neutral I think Either her or Auric

[Chickat]

For Midnight I'd like it all to be in Quel'thalas, with it being expanded out into four giant modern-sized zones - a rebuilt Ghostlands, rebuilt Eversong, Zul'aman zone, and the not-Northern western coast area. I want a full rebuild of an existing region, not just some basic Cata-esque tweaking of the existing geography.

Save the Easter Kingdoms revamping for a whole other expansion (post WSS).



We just got that big splashart of the Void invading.


And there was the housing preview, that's looking pretty good.

Not much in the way of like content leaks, they'll probably ramp up after the big patch next month.

That art is sick ngl.

[Wyrt]

She's gonna be the High elf Representant in Silvermoon when the city will be made neutral I think Either her or Auric

She's going to lead a militant anti-blood elf hate group inside of Silvermoon. "We're better now, we only fed innocent people to sharks once!"

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Seen a lot like minded comments regarding this topic. There is a decent chunk who simply doesnt care for past cm mode armor or mage tower stuff. Its not like the whole community is crying right now, because no mage tower.

So much the better if you don't care (even if no one else here cares tbh), because a large part of the community does, no matter what you say.

It was also overwhelmingly obvious that mage tower wouldnt be in remix. Cm mode wasnt in pandaria and they told the playerbase beforehand and many times before these were limited. Their latest blue comment on this just showed that they are consistant with their stance.

It's not coherent at all if you take the time to read the blue message carefully. It also says right afterwards that Legion Remix will have a lot more deleted content back than MoP Remix, including the AOTC mount that wasn't available during MoP Remix which is absolute nonsense.

[Raetary]

I have said it so many times, but losing the sunwell will only propel the story for the blood elves. They are to safe and the only way to retun to old habits(what seem to be what people want drom blood elves) is to return to their older selves.

I don't see them returning to old habits though.

What made the Blood Elves those zealous, arrogant bastards were their existential predicaments.
They were an isolated kingdom, got slaughtered and left to rot with their entire population suffering from a mana addiction.
Nvm their struggle to build Quel'thalas to begin with and then their constant conflict with the Trolls.

This time though, even after getting culled again, they have the entire Horde backing them up, the Alliance is not gonna just sit there either.
The Amani are already not a problem anymore, if we get a troll patch i doubt their rivalry is gonna last beyond it.
And their mana addiction is quickly dealt away with a fresh batch of Arcan'dor fruit.

There just isn't a need for them to go back to lunching on Mana Wyrms again or renounce the Light and do blood letting on some masochistic Naaru.

[Monkal]

Vereesa was only made so Knaak's self insert could have a hot elf wife.

Was gonna say this. Ofc a good writer can make any character better, but Vereesa is a textbook "satellite character", first to Rhonin then to her sisters.

[Alanar]

So much the better if you don't care (even if no one else here cares tbh), because a large part of the community does, no matter what you say.



It's not coherent at all if you take the time to read the blue message carefully. It also says right afterwards that Legion Remix will have a lot more deleted content back than MoP Remix, including the AOTC mount that wasn't available during MoP Remix which is absolute nonsense.

We were talking these limited time events, such as cm armor in panda and now mage tower. People were expecting mage tower to be treated the same way as cm armor. Its no real suprise imo. A side note, at the time players had literal tons of warnings in their battle net or news feed that it was time limited. Be quick or it will gone forever.

Yaya, I know, I am also not arguing or saying there isnt a group of the community that likes those events or special items and want them to see return. Just saying its not the general feeling of the community. In fact its divided as always.

Ps: I was there at the time and got bunch of cm armor and mage tower stuff. I am not protecting these items at all and If it was made available. Good for the people who care. It just wasnt going to happen, which seemed obvious to me then.

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I don't see them returning to old habits though.

What made the Blood Elves those zealous, arrogant bastards were their existential predicaments.
They were an isolated kingdom, got slaughtered and left to rot with their entire population suffering from a mana addiction.
Nvm their struggle to build Quel'thalas to begin with and then their constant conflict with the Trolls.

This time though, even after getting culled again, they have the entire Horde backing them up, the Alliance is not gonna just sit there either.
The Amani are already not a problem anymore, if we get a troll patch i doubt their rivalry is gonna last beyond it.
And their mana addiction is quickly dealt away with a fresh batch of Arcan'dor fruit.

There just isn't a need for them to go back to lunching on Mana Wyrms again or renounce the Light and do blood letting on some masochistic Naaru.

Me neither to make that clear. The only way how I could see that happen would be a very dire situation were the blood elves become desperate and have to use other sources again. But with a reunification in the future and the fruit as possible solution for everyone. Such a scenario seems off.

If the Sunwell is destroyed and the blood elves have indeed a problem now, I could see it being sorted very quickly like you said with the fruit of the Nightborne. Sadly that outcome will not move the blood elves in any real direction, which is my issue with this. Nothing propels them here and will only make them weaker, in the sense of being cured, but lost their powerboost. I wonder what the blood elves will even do after that..

I really liked their whole shiz with the light wasnt there for us, so now we force to light to bend to our will. It was a powerfull, new kind of thing at the time. It sadly doesnt fit in the current story I agree.

[Cheezits]

Blood Elves barely have any relevant characters, it's mostly Lorthemar and Liadrin, with the two other councilmembers RARELY popping up. I see no problem with introducing some younger characters as there aren't other Thalassians they'd be stealing the spotlight from.

And also it doesn't seem like people like Vereesa here, but the fact she is more or less hidden from TWW means she's gonna be a big deal.

[Limayria]

I don't see them returning to old habits though.

What made the Blood Elves those zealous, arrogant bastards were their existential predicaments.
They were an isolated kingdom, got slaughtered and left to rot with their entire population suffering from a mana addiction.
Nvm their struggle to build Quel'thalas to begin with and then their constant conflict with the Trolls.

This time though, even after getting culled again, they have the entire Horde backing them up, the Alliance is not gonna just sit there either.
The Amani are already not a problem anymore, if we get a troll patch i doubt their rivalry is gonna last beyond it.
And their mana addiction is quickly dealt away with a fresh batch of Arcan'dor fruit.

There just isn't a need for them to go back to lunching on Mana Wyrms again or renounce the Light and do blood letting on some masochistic Naaru.

tbh blood elves should never have even kinda gone back to how they were pre scourging like they suffered a massive societal trauma and then faced famine and its not like even like a pandemic or whatever which killed pretty indiscriminately the people who would be more likely to die to the scourge would have been both civilians with out the training to protect themselves and the "heroically inclined" who would die fighting the scourge; so the survivors would be either people pragmatic enough to sacrifice others for their survival or deeply traumatized veterans who saw their friends and family viciously ripping each other apart and being twisted into abominations