The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Skildar]

The way I understood Iridikron's statement is that we are now in a timeline that isn't relevant to the Titans anymore. Whatever that means is quite complicated to grasp for me.

[Murlocos]

it means the Titans are submitting Classic+ petitions to Blizzard

[KurtMash]

The way I understood Iridikron's statement is that we are now in a timeline that isn't relevant to the Titans anymore. Whatever that means is quite complicated to grasp for me.

Same here, the Titans have shown Nozdormu that he will become Murozond, so he won't fight it and just let it happen, because the timeline where Murozond happens is prefered by them to the one where he does not happend. What Iridikron did was basically to reduce the future to two paths - one where Murozond happens (but Iridikron does not get what he's after) and one where he does not happen (but Iridikron gets his prize). From what I understand, Chromie basically has yanked us out of the True Timeline to save Nozdormu, but this means that - although it seems like a short term victory - we (or at least the Titans) get fucked in the end.

I suppose the deal Iridikron made with the Infinite was to create a situation where at least one of them is guaranteed to get what they want, and they both just betted on what Chromie is going to do?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

it means the Titans are submitting Classic+ petitions to Blizzard

If only. /10chars

[Scyth]

The way I understood Iridikron's statement is that we are now in a timeline that isn't relevant to the Titans anymore. Whatever that means is quite complicated to grasp for me.

Yeah that makes sense tbh. Which could possibly lead to some angry Titans coming back and trying to reverse our timeline to what it was, I guess?
We might get another "my destiny is my own" Illidan moment in the future

[Paula Deen]

We do recognize that if we are in the True Timeline STILL and not a altered timeline due to Iridikrons statement then Aman'thul looks to have essentially "scaphism'd" Azeroth into this Demon Soul device with purpose? This also means that he has some form of ace that neutralizes Iridikron from the equation and gives him Azeroth.

Its pretty metal and fucked up but I just feel the Gameboy Meme of Zovaal, N'zoth and Aman'thul over each other cannot be seriously what the true outcomes of this narrative is going to be.

I don't know though, I mean to be fair if we ascertain that we are not in the True Timeline and we are in a Void Victory Timeline or a Player Altered Timeline it becomes even more complex and stupid. So I don't know anymore.

Again, I'm just thinking out loud.

Huh? Its Galakrond's essence he captured? Not the world soul?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yeah, he captured Galakrond's essence for a supposed purpose. I don't think Illidan is gonna repeat the same thing he did to X'era.

[Cheezits]

Maybe what Iridikron was hinting at was that by allowing him to have the amulet, we entered a Doomed Timeline that the Titans forbid. It could lead to the end of Azeroth... at the expense of saving Nozdormu.

So maybe Nozdormu has to get us back to the right timeline by sacrificing himself willingly?

[Raetary]

Huh? Its Galakrond's essence he captured? Not the world soul?

Nobody has gone anywhere near the World Soul yet.
In the new dungeon Iridikron worked with the Infinites and went ahead to siphon Galakronds essence while Deios corrupted Murozond.

[Scyth]

Azeroth's soul has been touched by literally everyone and everything possible. Would be a miracle if it's not corrupted or near being corrupted tbh lol

[Kiivar86]

Kinda reminds me of Elune who seems to have a hand in or connection to damn near everything (outside of Fel anyway).

Still would like some idea of what the fuck Elune really is. Connection to Light, Life, Shadow, Death...just missing Order and Fel (and I suppose you could argue she's got a connection to Order by way of her Tear being used as one of the Pillars). She's a real mystery.

[Nymrohd]

Azeroth's soul has been touched by literally everyone and everything possible. Would be a miracle if it's not corrupted or near being corrupted tbh lol

Hey, I always washed my hands first!

[Raetary]

Kinda reminds me of Elune who seems to have a hand in or connection to damn near everything (outside of Fel anyway).

Still would like some idea of what the fuck Elune really is. Connection to Light, Life, Shadow, Death...just missing Order and Fel (and I suppose you could argue she's got a connection to Order by way of her Tear being used as one of the Pillars). She's a real mystery.

She really isn't that much of a mystery anymore.

Elune is a life Pantheon member.

[Kiivar86]

She really isn't that much of a mystery anymore.

Elune is a life Pantheon member.

Supposedly, at least.

Yet for being a Life pantheon member she's got her hands in at least two thirds of the cosmological array.

Life of course (1), she's got a theorized connection to the Naaru (Light, 2), she's got the connection to Death by way of her "sister" (3), her tear is used by the Titans as one of the Pillars of Creation (Order, 4). And you could put forth at least some sort of connection to the Shadow due to the whole dark side of the moon stuff (so 5 of the 6) (and also her connection to the Naaru who also connect to the Shadow).

You have to admit, she's got a lot of connections. Its weird. I think its more due to Blizzard welding on new lore as we've gone along, though. But it is odd.

[Alanar]

She really isn't that much of a mystery anymore.

Elune is a life Pantheon member.

Where was this said again?

[Kiivar86]

Where was this said again?

Shadowlands, that whole conversation between the Winter Queen and Elune via Tyrande. Said in a few places too that they're counterparts.

But I still find it weird that she's all over the damn place.

[Izalla]

I definitely think K’aresh could be an expansion zone if Blizzard wanted.
It could be similar to Outland (or a larger scale Argus) with us only going to the parts that remain, or just the important parts.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s revealed that Telogrus Rift was actually a fragment or piece of K’aresh. The lore of Telogrus would fit K’aresh’s destruction if Blizzard decided to go that route.
And also the connection that the (void) Ethereals have to it.

But nonetheless I’m still hoping that the Ethereals are playable whenever they’re brought back. They’re probably one of my favorite non-playable races atm.

Wasn't it recently confirmed that Telogrus was the name of the titan/planet Sargeras split with his sword after he found it corrupted by the void? The whole situation that horrified the rest of the Pantheon and caused the rift where he set off on his own and formed the Legion to prevent another such near catastrophy where the void almost won by taking a titan world soul?

[Fahrad Wagner]

Kinda reminds me of Elune who seems to have a hand in or connection to damn near everything (outside of Fel anyway).

Still would like some idea of what the fuck Elune really is. Connection to Light, Life, Shadow, Death...just missing Order and Fel (and I suppose you could argue she's got a connection to Order by way of her Tear being used as one of the Pillars). She's a real mystery.

I'm here for Elune being way more than the Winter Queen's Life counterpart... but I'm also enjoying the mystery, you know? Maybe she's a First One? A Goddess across multiple realms? It's one of the best kept mysteries so far in WoW (probably because Blizz doesn't know what she is), and I kind of like that.

She really isn't that much of a mystery anymore.

Elune is a life Pantheon member.

It's been teased but not confirmed right? Or did I miss some elements?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Wasn't it recently confirmed that Telogrus was the name of the titan/planet Sargeras split with his sword after he found it corrupted by the void? The whole situation that horrified the rest of the Pantheon and caused the rift where he set off on his own and formed the Legion to prevent another such near catastrophy where the void almost won by taking a titan world soul?

It hasn't been confirmed but some interview in June from Blizz Teloargus got called a Titan but was corrected. It could be but /shrug

[Alanar]

Shadowlands, that whole conversation between the Winter Queen and Elune via Tyrande. Said in a few places too that they're counterparts.

But I still find it weird that she's all over the damn place.

I do remember that, just nothing about a life pantheon.
Isnt that something that was invented here on the forums..?

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I'm here for Elune being way more than the Winter Queen's Life counterpart... but I'm also enjoying the mystery, you know? Maybe she's a First One? A Goddess across multiple realms? It's one of the best kept mysteries so far in WoW (probably because Blizz doesn't know what she is), and I kind of like that.



It's been teased but not confirmed right? Or did I miss some elements?

Same here, hence I an asking... I dont believe we have a confirmation about that. I also dont remember a tease.

I consider Elune still somewhat of a mystery.. besides being siter off ofc.