The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

It would be amazing if they also bring the draenei girl who got the similar prophecy into the story and intertwined her story with Salandria's. They brought her back for the Draenei heritage quest (which seemed to foreshadow Midnight)

Funnily enough she's still a child, likely a nod to Eredar aging differently. But that dynamic would be fun if she follows Salandria around.

[13last]

What we know for certain is long overdue stuff finally happening, which is hype. The rest is a mistery and misteries and hype.

The old world honestly would benefit so much from more modernization. If delves are here to stay they should go all out with each zone (monumental task prob), more events, more reasons to visit them, same with old raids. Blizzard has so much content to use in the old world/raids and it's just sitting there rotting.

I'd love them to use timewalking more. Maybe the experiment with classic in China is a test for that, even the shattered timelines from Legion remix would be really cool if it works out.

Although I feel like this is a monumental undertaking, if it ever happens I can see a soft reset of Azeroth after WSS saga.

[Makorus]

Yeah it is definitely more than not doing something to help. She either actively fucks up real bad, or does something horrible. Like knowingly helps Xal'atath or Dar'Khan or something like that.

I don't necessarily want to kill off the only known elf chick with short hair, but I am kinda curious if Liadrin would kill her adoptive daughter if necessary.

Idk, it's because the original line is "will not be held accountable for what she might do, or fail to do, in the future", which granted, was probably chosen because Blizzard didn't know wtf their intention was with that character back in TBC, so they just wrote something that can potentially apply to literally every single thing ever, but it's still interesting.

[Hitei]

There was a notable hotfix on PTR yesterday that while not containing any actual data, did tie 3 encryption key IDs together as being related to each other and possibly releasing at the same time.

These keys:
7960: Contains 3 mounts and 11 spells (some of which with models/effects too, maybe a Hearthstone too?)
7961: Contains 2 battle pets
7962: Contains 2 transmog sets

Now this is very much speculation, but unless this is some trading post or store thing these very well could be the Midnight pre-order things.

I am quite confident that this is a raptor mount and pet, or at least something modified from the raptor base.

[Cheezits]

I am quite confident that this is a raptor mount and pet, or at least something modified from the raptor base.

That would be cool as we haven't had a new (regular) raptor in a long time. But what makes you say that?

[Limayria]

Not enough time to complete my novella and send it for Metzen, is it?

The one about Xal and Alleria?

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

11 spells? Better start speculating about which 2 classes aren't included :P

What if it was the void DH spec as a pre-order bonus??

[13last]

What if it was the void DH spec as a pre-order bonus??

Aha can you imagine? It'd be an interesting choice to say the least. Imagine it's the secret for tomorrow?! It's mostly my copium though.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Aha can you imagine? It'd be an interesting choice to say the least. Imagine it's the secret for tomorrow?! It's mostly my copium though.

No idea if it has anything to do with the secret.

That said, Blizzard shared an official preview of 11.2 and I didn't see the Ethereal GG in the Renown rewards.

[Makorus]

No idea if it has anything to do with the secret.

That said, Blizzard shared an official preview of 11.2 and I didn't see the Ethereal GG in the Renown rewards.

Because it's part of the Raid Renown.

[Inxotep]

What if it was the void DH spec as a pre-order bonus??

Checking my spellbook, I have 11 arms spec spells. You might be onto something, maybe its 11 void spec spells.

[Wangming]

The old world honestly would benefit so much from more modernization.

Oh don't get me started. Even from a purely visual standpoint you could get a laundry list of necessary changes By just doing the human starting areas. (Manor mistmantle being the size of an average farmhouse, the stormwind docks being too far from the trade district, old town not looking old, the lack of even a single dwarven piece of architecture in the dwarven district, or the weird absence of anything related to storms or wind. The lack of spooky human architecture is duskwood, all the ruins from the cataclysm still present in Westfall...etc)

Not even counting how the story there is still stuck with Varian being the King, when he died in Legion, Anduin decided not to return after Shadowlands, and during TWW Turalyon had the bright idea to leave Stormwind and the entire Alliance in the hands of Genn, who abdicated from the throne of Gilneas because he was too old fashioned. Meaning there has been three changes in leadership but the hobos if Westfall till curse Varian for their fate, The Night watch in Duskwood was massacred four expansions ago, when Varian's death was still relatively new, and in Redrige Solomon has been threatened with riots due to his incompetence since the Cataclysm.

And we are just now approaching what you suggested. How much the gameplay progressed in the past 15(!!) years since Cata came out (and 18 for the TBC areas). Hidden treasures, area objectives, events.

It is absolutely a monumental undertaking, yes. But there is so much that needs to be unfucked. And yes, if they have the state of the world after the WSS (saying saga again is redundant) set in stone, they can work on it. Preferrably work is already under way behind the scenes.
If I am allowed to slide into utopistic territories, the planet needs to catch up to "The WSS just ended, this is the new year zero" point. Both in terms of visuals, story and gameplay. Places that don't shall stick out like a sore thumb.

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The one about Xal and Alleria?

No, although that would be a good subject as well.

The one I'm writing (make no mistake it is just fan fiction, I wasn't comissioned to write anything yet).
Is about Tess Greymane and her doubts as she approaches an official coronation, her double life as a rogue and Xal'atath as she tries to destablizie Gilneas, not because it is needed for her plans or anything, but mostly for fun and to test the new monarch.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Because it's part of the Raid Renown.

Lol ok mb. We will have to see if this is kept on retail.

Checking my spellbook, I have 11 arms spec spells. You might be onto something, maybe its 11 void spec spells.

OMG

[Makorus]

Oh don't get me started. Even from a purely visual standpoint you could get a laundry list of necessary changes By just doing the human starting areas. (Manor mistmantle being the size of an average farmhouse, the stormwind docks being too far from the trade district, old town not looking old, the lack of even a single dwarven piece of architecture in the dwarven district, or the weird absence of anything related to storms or wind. The lack of spooky human architecture is duskwood, all the ruins from the cataclysm still present in Westfall...etc)

Not even counting how the story there is still stuck with Varian being the King, when he died in Legion, Anduin decided not to return after Shadowlands, and during TWW Turalyon had the bright idea to leave Stormwind and the entire Alliance in the hands of Genn, who abdicated from the throne of Gilneas because he was too old fashioned. Meaning there has been three changes in leadership but the hobos if Westfall till curse Varian for their fate, The Night watch in Duskwood was massacred four expansions ago, when Varian's death was still relatively new, and in Redrige Solomon has been threatened with riots due to his incompetence since the Cataclysm.

And we are just now approaching what you suggested. How much the gameplay progressed in the past 15(!!) years since Cata came out (and 18 for the TBC areas). Hidden treasures, area objectives, events.

It is absolutely a monumental undertaking, yes. But there is so much that needs to be unfucked. And yes, if they have the state of the world after the WSS (saying saga again is redundant) set in stone, they can work on it. Preferrably work is already under way behind the scenes.
If I am allowed to slide into utopistic territories, the planet needs to catch up to "The WSS just ended, this is the new year zero" point. Both in terms of visuals, story and gameplay. Places that don't shall stick out like a sore thumb.

If I could get one WoW related thing of my choosing, it would be a whole (and I mean whole, not just Azeroth) world revamp. Don't tie it to any specific expansion, just have the whole world move forward. There's just so much potential, especially in places like Outlands or even Pandaria.

[Casualist34]

That would be nice.

I wonder if they add statue/figurine for collector edition. Some elf statue with dragonhawk similiar to last edition statue would be neat

Also 11 spells - could be new class spells color option ? Similiar to warlock green fire. ( warlock already have one and dracthyr are last new class so 11 classes left ).

[Alanar]

Isn't damn near everything a spell anyway? There's a reason we have hundreds of thousands of them.

Ye basically.

[Makorus]

That would be nice.

I wonder if they add statue/figurine for collector edition. Some elf statue with dragonhawk similiar to last edition statue would be neat

Also 11 spells - could be new class spells color option ? Similiar to warlock green fire. ( warlock already have one and dracthyr are last new class so 11 classes left ).

Eh, doubt it. TWW only had a statue because it was also the Anniversary Edition.

[milkmustache]

I am quite confident that this is a raptor mount and pet, or at least something modified from the raptor base.

Is there anything that is pointing to this that inspires the confidence?

[13last]

If I could get one WoW related thing of my choosing, it would be a whole (and I mean whole, not just Azeroth) world revamp. Don't tie it to any specific expansion, just have the whole world move forward. There's just so much potential, especially in places like Outlands or even Pandaria.

I mean they did say getting the game ready for the next 20 years. Personally I have a hard time understanding how that'd work if they don't do a world revamp, outland is probably my favorite expansion aesthetic wise but it's so barebones and just dry. Sign me up for moving everything forward to current timeline.

[Wangming]

If I could get one WoW related thing of my choosing, it would be a whole (and I mean whole, not just Azeroth) world revamp. Don't tie it to any specific expansion, just have the whole world move forward. There's just so much potential, especially in places like Outlands or even Pandaria.

I mean, I can accept the lack of Outland, Argus, Ka'resh, Shadowlands and Emerald Dream revamp, for a while, if the planet (EK, Kalimdor, Dragons Isles, Zandalar, Kul Tiras, Khaz Algar, Pandaria, Northrend, Broken Isles, Mechagon, Nazjatar) get reworked, but if the entire setting is pulled together for the post WSS all the better.