1. #96581
    I would completely ditch race's skills and passives. If the keep adding Allied Races, I'm confident that eventually they would not have other choice.
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  2. #96582
    I found out the other day that Dracthyr's draconic language isn't actually implemented, and neither is a bunch of allied races language apparently. And that keeps me up at night.

  3. #96583
    So let's say they will add Amani trolls, will they use this model as base?


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    I'm going to summarise the leak since apparently some of you haven't found it yet. It was a just a description of the various editions of the preorder, no images or models. The mount is a Void Dragonhawk, a Light Dragonhawk, and a Dragonhawk that shifts between Void and Light (should've been a phoenix but w/e). There's a Void and Light transmog set. And there's a "Epic Housing Bundle" that includes, surprise, some Void and Light shit. Plus some tendies, pets, and level 80 boost. Notably there's housing early access with the preorder, but no mention of a new class / race early access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Quelthalas arrives, and without steady flying!!!!

    My joke take, at least.

    Quel'DOREI/Quel'DANAS a(8 letter word)
    a(5 letter word) w(8 letter word)
    s(eight letter word) f(eight letter word)
    I'd say the first is simply Quel'Thalas

    a something could be attacked, ambushed, abandoned perhaps.

    The five letter word that starts with a has to be amani
    W could be warchief, it fits the letter count but there are no more warchiefs in the horde sadly. Unless it is some kind of counter warchief to rival the war council.
    Warlord makes sense in universe but is one letter shorter, just as abandoned is one letter longer.
    S word with eight letters: Sylvanas, sin'dorei, Shandris
    Considering the f word after it, I think the last line is Sylvanas forgiven.

    So Quel'Thalas attacked
    amani w something
    Sylvanas forgiven

    So if we follow this pattern the middle should be something similar. Amani weakened.
    Nooo
    Amani welcomed

    That's it

    Quel'dorei accepted
    Amani welcomed
    Sylvanas forgiven
    Unless the last one is also a feature

  6. #96586
    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    I'm going to summarise the leak since apparently some of you haven't found it yet. It was a just a description of the various editions of the preorder, no images or models. The mount is a Void Dragonhawk, a Light Dragonhawk, and a Dragonhawk that shifts between Void and Light (should've been a phoenix but w/e). There's a Void and Light transmog set. And there's a "Epic Housing Bundle" that includes, surprise, some Void and Light shit. Plus some tendies, pets, and level 80 boost. Notably there's housing early access with the preorder, but no mention of a new class / race early access.
    Hummmm Housing early access? Would be a very stupid way to introduce the feature IMO. I don't buy it
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  7. #96587
    why are people not just posting the link here. Whats going on
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  8. #96588
    Isn't this preorder supposed to be available immediately? I doubt it'll give immediate access to housing. Probably will give access once 11.2.7 is out then. I guess it'll depend on what the time difference is between 11.2.7 and prepatch so see whether that will ruffle too many feathers

  9. #96589
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I am still amazed by that leak, because it genuinely was so good, and also it being kind of corroborated by the mobile website fake leak.
    It was less "corroborated" and more "made even more obviously fake" since the website was transparently copied from previous websites and also had very obvious AI crap.

  10. #96590
    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    I'm going to summarise the leak since apparently some of you haven't found it yet. It was a just a description of the various editions of the preorder, no images or models. The mount is a Void Dragonhawk, a Light Dragonhawk, and a Dragonhawk that shifts between Void and Light (should've been a phoenix but w/e). There's a Void and Light transmog set. And there's a "Epic Housing Bundle" that includes, surprise, some Void and Light shit. Plus some tendies, pets, and level 80 boost. Notably there's housing early access with the preorder, but no mention of a new class / race early access.
    Oh, well, all that makes a lot of sense. Good they learned their lesson from a similar mount. And that they aren't restricting any big racial mounts to the preorder

    Early access housing makes a lot of sense, and I don't think it discredits Ethereals- they seem to be TWW content. We saw that housing launches early from the roadmap and it is staunchly a Midnight feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    I'm going to summarise the leak since apparently some of you haven't found it yet. It was a just a description of the various editions of the preorder, no images or models. The mount is a Void Dragonhawk, a Light Dragonhawk, and a Dragonhawk that shifts between Void and Light (should've been a phoenix but w/e). There's a Void and Light transmog set. And there's a "Epic Housing Bundle" that includes, surprise, some Void and Light shit. Plus some tendies, pets, and level 80 boost. Notably there's housing early access with the preorder, but no mention of a new class / race early access.
    I wonder which wow news site posts it first lol.

    Also idk how I feel about the start of selling house items but it should have been expected, this is gonna be a gold mine for Blizz.

  12. #96592
    Does anyone even have proof the leak is real?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buttonmasher View Post
    idk why you're keeping their identity secret, it's all spelled out here

    I mean this was posted and it's fake.

  13. #96593
    What leak? Man I feel stupid
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  14. #96594
    Yeah guys, there is definitely a leak, that's why there are no pictures or anything

  15. #96595
    Shadowlands' leaks came the same week as BlizzCon. I think Evoker leaks also came just a few hours before the real show and I don't recall a big TWW leak so ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Yeah guys, there is definitely a leak, that's why there are no pictures or anything
    That's like, the least of the problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holdodlig View Post
    Shadowlands' leaks came the same week as BlizzCon. I think Evoker leaks also came just a few hours before the real show and I don't recall a big TWW leak so ...
    The evoker leak had puzzles leading up to it for leaks. That was fun

  17. #96597
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    What leak? Man I feel stupid
    Seems like it's largely just hearsay at this point revolving around something said or allegedly found in some discord (one of the big datamining ones?).

    Quote Originally Posted by Holdodlig View Post
    Shadowlands' leaks came the same week as BlizzCon. I think Evoker leaks also came just a few hours before the real show and I don't recall a big TWW leak so ...
    Yeah. As frequently mentioned, there has not been a major leak farther out than like.. a couple weeks? Since maybe WoD's big Scrolls of Lore scandal? I think the farthest out something has been since then is like 16 days or so. Most recent-recent expansions have only leaked in the week leading up to the announcement.

    Basically, they closed up a lot of the holes that leaks used to come from (F&F stuff, open trademark registrations, localization staff in other regions getting materials early (the NGA leaks), etc.) So now most leaks probably come from the third parties that they involve right before an event, stuff like whoever is handling printing for the venue, AV staff who need to get presentation stuff beforehand to ensure everything is set up, those kind of things--at which point it is much harder to keep track of all the different people who know stuff and the people are more frequently not Blizzard employees so they are less incentivized to keep their mouths shut.
    Last edited by Hitei; 2025-08-02 at 11:48 AM.

  18. #96598
    And while this thread largely consists of the opposite audience, many don't want things leaking so when stuff is announced there's full context to things. Humans have the tendency to complain about stuff while not having the full picture and this is no different. There's also the factor of certain things still being in flux as we've seen with some leaks (or even datamining) before where they end up being largely correct but small details end up being different in the actual thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Does anyone even have proof the leak is real?



    I mean this was posted and it's fake.
    yeah I dont quite buy it either. Its a bit long-winded... But stranger things have happened.

  20. #96600
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    yeah I dont quite buy it either. Its a bit long-winded... But stranger things have happened.
    Long-winded is probably less of an issue than it reading like it was written by someone for whom English is a second language. I'm also not sure I buy Blzzard putting reputation gain on the store, or locking Blood Elf housing options behind a paywall when like 40% of Horde Players are that race.

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