The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Xilurm]

I mean patches like 9.2 or 10.1. So at least zone + raid. For example you count 'big' 7.1 that was new story in Suramar, megadungeon and mini raid. Or 2.3 that was just Zulaman. If these patches are 'big', then so is 10.1.5 with 8 boss instance and side content.

Yeah but if we go by your logic then early WoW barely had any big patches. Is 3.1 with Ulduar not a big patch? What about ICC? Firelands would be a big patch, but what about Dragon Soul?

[Cheezits]

Warcraft has the biggest hall at Blizzcon this year.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/first-l...023-map-334208

[Sondrelk]

Warcraft has the biggest hall at Blizzcon this year.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/first-l...023-map-334208

Not surprising, given this should be a big anniversary for Warcraft in general.
Wouldn't be surprised if they actually had some Warcraft RTS news, and not just WoW news.

[Catastrophy349]

Warcraft has the biggest hall at Blizzcon this year.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/first-l...023-map-334208

How about addressing the elephant in the room? "World of Warcraft, Warcraft Arclight Rumble, Hearthstone and the Darkmoon Faire are all sharing Hall D."

[Cheezits]

How about addressing the elephant in the room? "World of Warcraft, Warcraft Arclight Rumble, Hearthstone and the Darkmoon Faire are all sharing Hall D."

That's why I said Warcraft. It may not be one room for WoW but the franchise in general is front and center.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Solo mode for dungeons with bots inc?

That, in my mind, is the worst possible addition WoW could have. It's already having problems with turning into an antisocial lobby game, we don't need to go all the way.

[Darkarath]

like previous years, right?

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https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...752114692?s=20

Solo mode for dungeons with bots inc?

Fuck yes I hope that this is happening. WoW really needs a solo mode.

How cool would it be that we could play dungeons with our alts? They would be fixing at least LFD, LFR, Warfronts, and even BGs queues times if the tech is applied in a smart way, and I have little doubt that the tech is already there since NPCs were able to do a lot of stuff in Island Expeditions, and I guess that they have improved that a ton by now.

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That, in my mind, is the worst possible addition WoW could have. It's already having problems with turning into an antisocial lobby game, we don't need to go all the way.

If WoW does not embrace solo features it would be just speeding up its own demise.

People want to be able to advance at their own pace without needing to form a group, but hey, the option to play with other people would always be there. At this point we have to be honest and realise that the social aspect of WoW has been dead for a long time and nothing would bring it back to life again.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't think WoW needs this feature though. Its pretty solo friendly as it is.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

If WoW does not embrace solo features it would be just speeding up its own demise.

I do not believe this is the case. However, if this is the case, then it is better that it dies.

[Darkarath]

I do not believe this is the case. However, if this is the case, then it is better that it dies.

I honestly think that It could be one of the few things that can save the game from dying.

FFXIV did this successfully.

[Skildar]

completing groups with bots passed some wait time in Looking For Group could be an interesting addition but I fear it's all about treating a symptom rather than the source of the issue. Merging heroic and normal mode dungeon should be their first step in fixing queues and adding more opportunities and incentives to do previous expansion lfg should be their second

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I honestly think that It could be one of the few things that can save the game from dying.

FFXIV did this successfully.

Again, I can't disagree enough. I believe the playerbase may be retained by maintaining a niche, which may yet be done by leaning into the RPG and MMO elements of the game instead of try to maintain mass appeal by compromising on the soul of the genre. If making the game into a lobby game really is the only way to save the game, then the game deserves to die. There is no use preserving an MMORPG that is neither a fundamentally multiplayer experience nor a roleplaying game.

[Darkarath]

completing groups with bots passed some wait time in Looking For Group could be an interesting addition but I fear it's all about treating a symptom rather than the source of the issue. Merging heroic and normal mode dungeon should be their first step in fixing queues and adding more opportunities and incentives to do previous expansion lfg should be their second

At some point those queues times would be too much. In PvE this might not be an issue for now, except for Warfronts, but in PvP it is already a problem. Just make sure that both parties have the same amount of human players and we are good to go.

A system of PvE companions has unlimited potential, whether if it uses an NPC follower system or if we are able to play with our alts.

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Again, I can't disagree enough. I believe the playerbase may be retained by maintaining a niche, which may yet be done by leaning into the RPG and MMO elements of the game instead of try to maintain mass appeal by compromising on the soul of the genre. If making the game into a lobby game really is the only way to save the game, then the game deserves to die. There is no use preserving an MMORPG that is neither a fundamentally multiplayer experience nor a roleplaying game.

WoW has not been an RPG in quite some time. The MMO elements are there, but they are not as successful as they were before. People do not want social experiences. They just want to chill out and be able to advance in whatever their objectives are while being part of an online world and community, but without being forced to interact with other players. Genshin Impact is the perfect example of this new model that new online games are adapting.

I understand your point but honestly, for the majority of the playerbase I highly doubt that not having a social experience is relevant. I really believe that most WoW players play solo, grouping when needed.

Also if you apply this system just to heroic dungeons and maybe Mythic 0, you would still need people for the most challenging content. Plus it could be a good way of allow us to play any old dungeons or raids that we want, maybe even to get achievements that require a group and they are really hard to make these days. Hell, they could even tie this system to Archeology. Again, the potential is limitless and if well applied, it really would not change much of the current social experience.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

You sorta have to be forced to interact with others at some point in a MMO, going 100% with that mindset you may as well do that with all forms of content...which is dumb.

[Lahis]

Whoever wrote the Blue Dragonflight questline needs to have a promotion so they can write the main story.

Please no. Then instead of writing good quests they have to violently and unelegantly smush in the main story designed by a committee in expansion draft meetings.

[Catastrophy349]

Oops. https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...519216130?s=20

[Lahis]

I don't think WoW needs this feature though. Its pretty solo friendly as it is.

Some people won't even do Heroic Dungeons or LFR because they are that allergic to human interaction. They ask bots to see the story.

[Khaza-R]

If people want to play with bots more power to them. I cannot fathom how boring that would be.

[Civciv]

Some people won't even do Heroic Dungeons or LFR because they are that allergic to human interaction. They ask bots to see the story.

Then they shouldn't play mmo?

[Revamp Man]

Then they shouldn't play mmo?

No no no
You can't say that because "I pay my 15 a month too"
You big bully

People just have a hard time realizing sometimes the game isn't meant for how they want to play.
"This pushes players away and makes grouping harder"
Can't group with pure solo players
Can't tell them to wait until they can solo because the first excuse

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Ethereal planet wasn't actually destroyed just swallowed by a pocket dimension where it still exists
BOOM
Hello galifrey

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Good catch. I never noticed that as well. One would think Vyranoth would know a great deal then since she used it to find the location of Aberrus.

I think the biggest hurdle to her changing sides is that she seems to be very apathetic. She's pretty unphased by anything Alexstrasza says. I can't really see her suddenly changing course unless Iridikron becomes guilty of the same thing she accuses the Aspects of.

Her motivation seems to be anger based on the cinematic
Guarantee there will be a "I shall never serve" moment with her as well and it will be revealed that she was Alex's bang sister