The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

I think its unlikely the Titans will get a confrontation with Iridakron. Besides even their smaller form I think they can handle their own(Unless its another fully formed Titan then its "Uh oh" for them. I can only guess the War of the Scaleborn could reveal a lot more of Iridakron's and the Incarnates beginnings.

Frankly, i'd find it more realistic if he's just completely underestimating their power and expecting slightly stronger keepers rather than what they actually are.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Btw I was doing Dawn just now and one thing that really bothered me is how the Infinites act as if they are villains. Up till now they always acted as if their perspective was the most valid one. Morchie in particular (hate that fight) very much loves acting the villain.

Interfering with history is definitely nefarious.

[Cheezits]

I think the finale will be the dragons earning emancipation from the Titans, which will subsequently finish the beef with remaining primals who will probably rally under Vyranoth following Fyrakks defeat. Old Friends standing together again.

Or maybe Tyr/Odyn oneshots Vyranoth?

I can't see the final patch being anything but a civil war with Tyr at this point.

[Polybius]

BfA was all seas. The Islands from Island Expeditions are all over the map. I mean, Dread Chain is arctic

We were robbed of Plunder Isle and Bloodsail Hold. There’s opportunity in PI and the other isles mentioned.

[Nymrohd]

Interfering with history is definitely nefarious.

Yes but the infinites always claimed that they are right to interfere and that they are doing it to help.

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We were robbed of Plunder Isle and Bloodsail Hold. There’s opportunity in PI and the other isles mentioned.

I very much doubt it will ever happen but a revamp could have those added. There is this awesome map of Azeroth with the Island Expeditions on it. I think that you could in fact create a version of Azeroth were we can just fly from continent to continent.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I think the finale will be the dragons earning emancipation from the Titans, which will subsequently finish the beef with remaining primals who will probably rally under Vyranoth following Fyrakks defeat. Old Friends standing together again.

Or maybe Tyr/Odyn oneshots Vyranoth?

I can't see the final patch being anything but a civil war with Tyr at this point.

I'd rather see a bit of a middle ground not completely overthrowing all titan related stuff since Dragons wouldn't be a thing without the Titans(Yes there are proto dragons but they aren't the same). This is all unless origins are dragons are under scrutiny.


What I mean by middle ground is Tyr being a bit more thoughtful reinforce his beliefs in mortals. It wouldn't be the first time a Titan related being not having a straight lined view of the world.

[Makabreska]

Yes but the infinites always claimed that they are right to interfere and that they are doing it to help.

Firstly, "hey, we just want to help" followed by attempting to kill everyone is laughable. Secondly, their "help" was immediately explained to be completely detrimental. They just finally dropped that crappy hypocritical approach.

And many villains in WoW history were saying that they are in the right.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I see some people saying that Iridikron is stupid to want to confront the titans, that he is not powerful enough etc.

I don't think that's true. Iridikron is not stupid, he clearly has a plan. Don't forget that it comes with the Void, Xal'atath and maybe even Azshara or other shenanigans like awakening Corrupted Azeroth etc.

I think these are hints about the next expansion, I would be surprised if we covered it in this expansion.

I mean his entire story essentially hinges on him not being stupid or else he is essentially Zovaal 2.0 except this time around there's no shocking "OH FUCK THE PROPHECY"/Schrodinger's Prophecy moment that protects him from scrutiny because he knows.

[Raetary]

Yes but the infinites always claimed that they are right to interfere and that they are doing it to help.

Yeah, their whole character and ambition is just lacking.

The patch portrays them, especially with Morchie at the helmet, as Doofenschmirtz lvl villains.
Lots of moustache twirling, lots of mocking the good guys because they aren't edgy and cool like the goth gnome.

But not anywhere near enough of exploring their overarching goal to bring forth a better End Time.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah, their whole character and ambition is just lacking.

The patch portrays them, especially with Morchie at the helmet, as Doofenschmirtz lvl villains.
Lots of moustache twirling, lots of mocking the good guys because they aren't edgy and cool like the goth gnome.

But not anywhere near enough of exploring their overarching goal to bring forth a better End Time.

Chromie in general damages the dungeon. Soridormi trying to save her partner and love or Anachronos trying to save his father would both have worked better.

[Well Done Steak]

Here some DF speculation.

Amitus the Peacekeeper will be made cannon.

Tyr will reveal that Alex and ysera's brother, dralad, is alive and is the 6th aspect as the aspect of light

Dralad was res'd by Tyr and resides in secret in Avaloren.

Dralad was empowered by Amitus through Tyr, similar to the other aspects who were empowered by the titans through keepers as conduits, and was turned into a silver dragon.

This is why we're getting those white scales for DR that still has no source

[Skildar]

Btw I was doing Dawn just now and one thing that really bothered me is how the Infinites act as if they are villains. Up till now they always acted as if their perspective was the most valid one. Morchie in particular (hate that fight) very much loves acting the villain.

Yeah I'm quite disturbed by morchie, because I want to like her.
She sees chromie as an idiot, which she definitely is. But Morchie acts a bit too villainy for her to be anything other than a foe

[Nymrohd]

Here some DF speculation.

Amitus the Peacekeeper will be made cannon.

Tyr will reveal that Alex and ysera's brother, dralad, is alive and is the 6th aspect as the aspect of light

Dralad was res'd by Tyr and resides in secret in Avaloren.

Dralad was empowered by Amitus through Tyr, similar to the other aspects who were empowered by the titans through keepers as conduits, and was turned into a silver dragon.

This is why we're getting those white scales for DR that still has no source

If we need a dragon to empower someone, Golganneth didn't empower anyone (and we have some storm drakes handy for that). Neither has Aggramar empowered anyone and he'd make the most sense given his ties to Tyr.

[Catastrophy349]

Very excited for the Tyr storyline, among others, in 10.1.7 before the "Amirdrassil" patch of 10.2!

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What is everyone's "TOP" speculation/guess for 11.0 right now? Not what you "hope for", but what you "think" will happen based on current lore/speculation?

[Well Done Steak]

If we need a dragon to empower someone, Golganneth didn't empower anyone (and we have some storm drakes handy for that). Neither has Aggramar empowered anyone and he'd make the most sense given his ties to Tyr.

Right, but Tyr is a light Keeper while Amitus is a light titan.

All the keepers that the titans used to empowered the aspects with shared their affinities.

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Very excited for the Tyr storyline, among others, in 10.1.7 before the "Amirdrassil" patch of 10.2!

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What is everyone's "TOP" speculation/guess for 11.0 right now? Not what you "hope for", but what you "think" will happen based on current lore/speculation?

11.0 will 100% be light vs void, don't believe anyone or any leak that says otherwise.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Here some DF speculation.

Amitus the Peacekeeper will be made cannon.

If the bubble hearth joke titan is retroactively introduced into the plot, I am liable to tear out my eyes. I suppose it's better than more First Ones content, at least.

[Nymrohd]

Right, but Tyr is a light Keeper while Amitus is a light titan.

All the keepers that the titans used to empowered the aspects with shared their affinities.

Amitus doesn't exist outside Hearthstone so far and adding her is less than a good idea for so many reasons. Aggramar can be the Light-aligned Titan if you need one.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

What is everyone's "TOP" speculation/guess for 11.0 right now? Not what you "hope for", but what you "think" will happen based on current lore/speculation?

Obviously something to do with the Pantheon; Azeroth remains rescheduled for visitation, and I expect Iridikron may prompt said visitation. I'm doubtful Avaloren is the name of the whole continent, but whatever continent hosts Avaloren and Dun Algaz seems like a possibility. Though I hope for a world revamp, this seems most plausible. I figure Azshara is going to play a role, as well, possibly with a Naga civil war between those still enthralled by Azshara and those who want to continue their service to the Old Gods. The expansion will probably have a bit of a colonial theme, with everybody rushing to claim the newly-discovered landmass; pirates and Naga will contest the land with the Alliance and Horde.

[Well Done Steak]

Amitus doesn't exist outside Hearthstone so far and adding her is less than a good idea for so many reasons. Aggramar can be the Light-aligned Titan if you need one.

That's why I'm saying they might add her.

No other titan has a light affinity. Definitely not agg

[Catastrophy349]

Right, but Tyr is a light Keeper while Amitus is a light titan.

All the keepers that the titans used to empowered the aspects with shared their affinities.

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11.0 will 100% be light vs void, don't believe anyone or any leak that says otherwise.

Will the Light be making an appearance before the end of DF?