The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Well Done Steak]

It was used in a cinematic. The Deathwing model didn't really get more than that either, and that quest was pretty much just a joke to begin with.

Cinematic isn't the same as an actual game use.

The only exception is sargeras but even then it's because he's the size of a planet.

Every time an noc has gotten a face lift it's been for an in-game reason

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It was used in a cinematic. The Deathwing model didn't really get more than that either, and that quest was pretty much just a joke to begin with.

To be fair they did have more plans for the deathwing model with there being a quest on the beta where he meets Alex using it and you fight him in it before they fight in dragon form in the twilight highlands.

All of that was cut though excluding the dragon fight of course.

[Schwert]

Got me some juicy details about the future of WoW.

There will be no patch 10.3. Patch 10.2 will launch right after Blizzcon. Patch 10.2.5 will be the last content patch. The expansion ends with a megadungeon where we fight Xal’atath. She wins and resurrects Galakrond, which causes ‘the second Cataclysm’.

The next expansion will be called Tides of Darkness.
Theme: Void invades Azeroth, main antagonist is Azshara
Setting: South Seas + EK/Kalimdor (light revamp)
Some important characters: Thrall, Yrel, Iridikron, Azshara, Illidan, Sargeras
New races: Vrykul for Alliance and Mok’nathal for Horde
Fourth specs for original classes (example shaman tank spec)
New mount types such as underwater mounts and boats
Class halls return

Oh boy, more freakin' humans.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Got me some juicy details about the future of WoW.

There will be no patch 10.3. Patch 10.2 will launch right after Blizzcon. Patch 10.2.5 will be the last content patch. The expansion ends with a megadungeon where we fight Xal’atath. She wins and resurrects Galakrond, which causes ‘the second Cataclysm’.

The next expansion will be called Tides of Darkness.
Theme: Void invades Azeroth, main antagonist is Azshara
Setting: South Seas + EK/Kalimdor (light revamp)
Some important characters: Thrall, Yrel, Iridikron, Azshara, Illidan, Sargeras
New races: Vrykul for Alliance and Mok’nathal for Horde
Fourth specs for original classes (example shaman tank spec)
New mount types such as underwater mounts and boats
Class halls return

obv troll, but overall i think vrykul and ogres/mok'nathal will be the next 2 core races with their own starting zone experience.

Also i think blizzard might even "connect" some reskin AR with core races, that use the same model to free up some space.

[Worldshaper]

Hot take 1:

Zuldazar shows why it's not possible to achieve the desired outcome of a world revamp, by simply updating a few assets and lighting effects.

There's such a vast difference between Stranglethorn Vale and Zuldazar. Not just in the quality of assets. The way the landscape, the foliage, the weather (sky boxes, rain, etc), the sound design, lighting, mist, music, and a bunch of other elements come together is pivotal.

Hot take 2:

If they revamp the world and bring Dragonriding everywhere, they really need to let their design philosophy around flying mature. It is not enough to simply design zones like the Dragon Isles, and then slap Dragonriding on it.

The reason is that something is truly lost in the world design, since Dragonriding made its debut. The zones of the Dragon Isles may be pretty to look at, but they do not offer the same sense of immersion as previous zones such as Zuldazar.

Because you just fly everywhere easily, Blizzard has been lazy with design. There are far fewer wonders and amazing landmarks. There isn't really a natural progression across a zone, from the point of view of a traveler anymore. You don't begin your journey on the simple dust road, make your way up the hill, gaze in awe at the imposing mountain in the distance, or truly feel the immensity of a place anymore.

Just compare your first experience of Kun-Lai to Azure Span. Kun-Lai is dated in several ways, but it's still much better in this regard.

[Santandame]

Hot take 1:

Zuldazar shows why it's not possible to achieve the desired outcome of a world revamp, by simply updating a few assets and lighting effects.

There's such a vast difference between Stranglethorn Vale and Zuldazar. Not just in the quality of assets. The way the landscape, the foliage, the weather (sky boxes, rain, etc), the sound design, lighting, mist, music, and a bunch of other elements come together is pivotal.

Hot take 2:

If they revamp the world and bring Dragonriding everywhere, they really need to let their design philosophy around flying mature. It is not enough to simply design zones like the Dragon Isles, and then slap Dragonriding on it.

The reason is that something is truly lost in the world design, since Dragonriding made its debut. The zones of the Dragon Isles may be pretty to look at, but they do not offer the same sense of immersion as previous zones such as Zuldazar.

Because you just fly everywhere easily, Blizzard has been lazy with design. There are far fewer wonders and amazing landmarks. There isn't really a natural progression across a zone, from the point of view of a traveler anymore. You don't begin your journey on the simple dust road, make your way up the hill, gaze in awe at the imposing mountain in the distance, or truly feel the immensity of a place anymore.

Just compare your first experience of Kun-Lai to Azure Span. Kun-Lai is dated in several ways, but it's still much better in this regard.

Have to agree. Despite how gorgeous the Dragon Isles zones are, they lack that certain je ne sais quoi, for me. Very attractive to look at, and were very fun to explore at first. But despite their size, they lacked that sense of immersion and wonder for me.

I’m sure several here will disagree, but they don’t compare to the Broken Isles, Zandalar, Kul’Tiras and Draenor for me.

Dragon riding is a huge positive. I think it’s one of the best additions to the game. However, the zones could definitely be designed better to both accommodate and enhance it.

[Worldshaper]

Have to agree. Despite how gorgeous the Dragon Isles zones are, they lack that certain je ne sais quoi, for me. Very attractive to look at, and were very fun to explore at first. But despite their size, they lacked that sense of immersion and wonder for me.

I’m sure several here will disagree, but they don’t compare to the Broken Isles, Zandalar, Kul’Tiras and Draenor for me.

Dragon riding is a huge positive. I think it’s one of the best additions to the game. However, the zones could definitely be designed better to both accommodate and enhance it.

Agreed.

Unrelated, but here's a crackpot theory!

The essence of N'Zoth is believed to be stored within the Black Blade of the Empire, after it was used to stab him by Wrathion.

The essence of Yogg-Saron might until recently have been stored within the remains of Galakrond, as he was created by drinking waters contaminated by the Old God.

The essence of Y'Shaarj was until the end of MoP stored within his heart, which got destroyed. However, there is speculation the Black Blade of the Empire is his claw, so his essence perhaps lingers.

Can anybody think of a similar item which might hold the essence of C'thun?

[Nymrohd]

BFA was eastern seas. South Seas is Undermine and Tel'abim

BfA was all seas. The Islands from Island Expeditions are all over the map. I mean, Dread Chain is arctic

[KurtMash]

Agreed.

Unrelated, but here's a crackpot theory!

The essence of N'Zoth is believed to be stored within the Black Blade of the Empire, after it was used to stab him by Wrathion.

The essence of Yogg-Saron might until recently have been stored within the remains of Galakrond, as he was created by drinking waters contaminated by the Old God.

The essence of Y'Shaarj was until the end of MoP stored within his heart, which got destroyed. However, there is speculation the Black Blade of the Empire is his claw, so his essence perhaps lingers.

Can anybody think of a similar item which might hold the essence of C'thun?

Perhaps it was already injected into the world soul when the sword passed through the body of cthun and then, covered in cthunnes went deeper into the "body" of Azeroth?

[Xilurm]

Whoever wrote the Blue Dragonflight questline needs to have a promotion so they can write the main story.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

-Fake leak lmao-

PR Suicide. I just do not see this whole "lol they are going to rugpull us lol" thing that all the doomers and business centric individuals think is happening after they made it clear that during the WoWCast that it was a positive roadmap.

Like yeah I mean I still stand by my comments that it remains a possibility but it has mostly become fringe at this point because their entire strategy this expansion has been to not step on any toes and if they do they remove their foot immediately, apologize and continue to make better decisions.

[Alanar]

Got me some juicy details about the future of WoW.

There will be no patch 10.3. Patch 10.2 will launch right after Blizzcon. Patch 10.2.5 will be the last content patch. The expansion ends with a megadungeon where we fight Xal’atath. She wins and resurrects Galakrond, which causes ‘the second Cataclysm’.

The next expansion will be called Tides of Darkness.
Theme: Void invades Azeroth, main antagonist is Azshara
Setting: South Seas + EK/Kalimdor (light revamp)
Some important characters: Thrall, Yrel, Iridikron, Azshara, Illidan, Sargeras
New races: Vrykul for Alliance and Mok’nathal for Horde
Fourth specs for original classes (example shaman tank spec)
New mount types such as underwater mounts and boats
Class halls return

I don't care, ill take this!

I mean everything here sounds just fun. Class halls were cool, some actuall new races (full package) fourth specs, I mean hell I think it's damn time for a fan service expansion again. Putting it like this, Best of Legion combined with Bfa mines the crap and uninteresting features such as Warfronts or Azerite armor, JUST to name a few .. Pack it with LOTS of new costumization options and just crap we all want. New bgs for once, new glyphs.. just fun stuff. Been a long time since I have seen the feature trailer were I was like oo hell I cant wait!

edit: I am confused at the underwater mount part, does this mean it's a new kind of underwater mount or like..underwater mounts are new?;p

[Teriz]

Got me some juicy details about the future of WoW.

There will be no patch 10.3. Patch 10.2 will launch right after Blizzcon. Patch 10.2.5 will be the last content patch. The expansion ends with a megadungeon where we fight Xal’atath. She wins and resurrects Galakrond, which causes ‘the second Cataclysm’.

The next expansion will be called Tides of Darkness.
Theme: Void invades Azeroth, main antagonist is Azshara
Setting: South Seas + EK/Kalimdor (light revamp)
Some important characters: Thrall, Yrel, Iridikron, Azshara, Illidan, Sargeras
New races: Vrykul for Alliance and Mok’nathal for Horde
Fourth specs for original classes (example shaman tank spec)
New mount types such as underwater mounts and boats
Class halls return

Sounds like BFA 2.0.

My money is still on Lightbound Invasion with Yrel and Xera being main antagonists, and the new races being Arakkoa and Ogres. New races begin expansion by fleeing Yrel's army and escaping to Azeroth. Yrel's forces gain foothold on new landmass and uses it as staging ground for attacks on both Horde and Alliance. Orcs are the heroes of the story (Thrall, Grom, AU Garrosh).

World Revamp (of course)

I'd love to see a 4th support role emerge, with 4 new specs for the pure DPS classes;

Rogues: Minstrel/Bard
Hunters: Dark Rangers
Warlock: Dreadlich
Mages: Chronomancer

Hey, it's WoW's 20th anniversary! Why wouldn't they go all out?

[Xilurm]

Got me some juicy details about the future of WoW.

There will be no patch 10.3. Patch 10.2 will launch right after Blizzcon. Patch 10.2.5 will be the last content patch. The expansion ends with a megadungeon where we fight Xal’atath. She wins and resurrects Galakrond, which causes ‘the second Cataclysm’.

The next expansion will be called Tides of Darkness.
Theme: Void invades Azeroth, main antagonist is Azshara
Setting: South Seas + EK/Kalimdor (light revamp)
Some important characters: Thrall, Yrel, Iridikron, Azshara, Illidan, Sargeras
New races: Vrykul for Alliance and Mok’nathal for Horde
Fourth specs for original classes (example shaman tank spec)
New mount types such as underwater mounts and boats
Class halls return

Oh yes, I can't wait to click Sargeras' toenail to get quests from him. So exciting!

[Cheezits]

If they show a revamped Silvermoon City and Gilneas, nobody is really going to care about 2 patches vs 3 patches.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Then they should perhaps save that for a different time and not axe a .3 patch. Not that I'm expecting those revamps in DF.

[Raetary]

Oh yes, I can't wait to click Sargeras' toenail to get quests from him. So exciting!

They made Sargeras smol though.



And i feel like they don't intend to return the Titans to being planet sized.
And if, only temporary.

[Murlocos]

Man imagine if they finally do this Light vs. Void storyline and AU Yrel dies in the first 5 minutes after 5+ years of being speculated as the main focus of every upcoming expansion.

[Lahis]

With all the banter about Karesh I have another idea to rally against.

Thrall on the Blizzcon Poster. His home? Outland.

Thrall was born on Azeroth and was only living on Outland post WoD/Broken Shore to disassociate with the Horde and cope with the Garrosh shitshow he unleashed.

[Alanar]

Oh yes, I can't wait to click Sargeras' toenail to get quests from him. So exciting!

He will be fine, likely the sizes we have seen with the other titans in Legion. He got shot down, reduced to chair size in the final cinematic.

You can now click on hes knee