The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nibelheimy]

Shame about professions. I appreciate the new depth to them on my main, but I used to love levelling professions that matched alongside my alts. Now it's way too much a ballache to even begin that.

But I have a friend who plays specifically for professions and the auction house, to the point where thats literally all he does Ingame and he's having a blast.

[Lahis]

Ah, confusing as the Twisting Nether seems to have planets located within it.

Great Dark is regular space.

Twisting Nether is Astral equivalent for it, and demons dwell there. Planets occur naturally in Twisting Nether and can "fall into it" due to magic shenanigans like what happened to Outland.

[KurtMash]

Ok, so, crazy idea, but I was thinking. We know Iridikron wants to "call" Titans to Azeroth and then - somehow - defeat them. How would he achieve this? Well, Galakrond was characterized by his endless hunger to the point where he would eat other dragons. What if the plan is to infuse Azeroth with Galakronds essence, so when the Titans come for her and she wakes up... She ends up eating them ? At least metaphorically

[Sondrelk]

Ok, so, crazy idea, but I was thinking. We know Iridikron wants to "call" Titans to Azeroth and then - somehow - defeat them. How would he achieve this? Well, Galakrond was characterized by his endless hunger to the point where he would eat other dragons. What if the plan is to infuse Azeroth with Galakronds essence, so when the Titans come for her and she wakes up... She ends up eating them ? At least metaphorically

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Titan facility specifically designed to call the Titans back in the event Azeroth is about to be born. Maybe in one of the Uld locations we have yet to see.

[Berkilak]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Titan facility specifically designed to call the Titans back in the event Azeroth is about to be born. Maybe in one of the Uld locations we have yet to see.

Maybe even Tyrhold itself, as it “called” the Titan-influenced dragons back once Azeroth began to awaken already.

[Foolicious]

Ok, so, crazy idea, but I was thinking. We know Iridikron wants to "call" Titans to Azeroth and then - somehow - defeat them. How would he achieve this? Well, Galakrond was characterized by his endless hunger to the point where he would eat other dragons. What if the plan is to infuse Azeroth with Galakronds essence, so when the Titans come for her and she wakes up... She ends up eating them ? At least metaphorically

It's not unreasonable to think that there are systems in place that call the titans in specific cases. Like when serious corruption is detected, the world soul is about to be born etc. Aggramar showed up when Sargeras killed a constellar for example.
Not sure if Azeroth would eat the other titans. Or if we ever see her being born at all.
I still think Iridikron is being used by the void like it is hinted in the naga book and is far too cocky to realize it. But if the titans arrive i think its more likely we would see them sucked into a void portal into a prison or elsewhere in the void.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Ok, so, crazy idea, but I was thinking. We know Iridikron wants to "call" Titans to Azeroth and then - somehow - defeat them. How would he achieve this? Well, Galakrond was characterized by his endless hunger to the point where he would eat other dragons. What if the plan is to infuse Azeroth with Galakronds essence, so when the Titans come for her and she wakes up... She ends up eating them ? At least metaphorically

Then we have a new raid called "stomach of azeroth" to free them.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

It's not unreasonable to think that there are systems in place that call the titans in specific cases. Like when serious corruption is detected, the world soul is about to be born etc. Aggramar showed up when Sargeras killed a constellar for example.
Not sure if Azeroth would eat the other titans. Or if we ever see her being born at all.
I still think Iridikron is being used by the void like it is hinted in the naga book and is far too cocky to realize it. But if the titans arrive i think its more likely we would see them sucked into a void portal into a prison or elsewhere in the void.

I think its unlikely the Titans will get a confrontation with Iridakron. Besides even their smaller form I think they can handle their own(Unless its another fully formed Titan then its "Uh oh" for them. I can only guess the War of the Scaleborn could reveal a lot more of Iridakron's and the Incarnates beginnings.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I see some people saying that Iridikron is stupid to want to confront the titans, that he is not powerful enough etc.

I don't think that's true. Iridikron is not stupid, he clearly has a plan. Don't forget that it comes with the Void, Xal'atath and maybe even Azshara or other shenanigans like awakening Corrupted Azeroth etc.

I think these are hints about the next expansion, I would be surprised if we covered it in this expansion.

I completely agree, they're setting up 11.0 with this, 10.2 will be disconnected from this storyline as it will be the Dream and Fyrakk probably, and if we get a 10.3 I don't think it will be Iridikrond's plan.

[Murlocos]

Whatever patch we end on, I just hope we get a satisfying ending for Dragonflight itself. I've been wary of that comment they made that they want expansions to link into each other even more than they are now. BfA's main plot effectively ending in 8.2.5 to set up Shadowlands contributed a lot to that expansion feeling like it went out like a dud, and they couldn't help themselves in SL with the Jailer's last words being yet another vague tease of future threats. Hell, I've really soured on Legion having the defeat of the biggest bad in the entire series cut off from Velen's incredibly satisfying sigh of relief to the horror sting of the sword in Silithus just to remind you there'll be another expansion.

Getting some proper catharsis would do wonders to alleviate how much of the plot has just become endless teasers, mysteries, and warnings. They can use 10.3.5 or whatever patch to help set up 11.0, let this expansion be able to enjoy its own ending.

[Nymrohd]

Btw I was doing Dawn just now and one thing that really bothered me is how the Infinites act as if they are villains. Up till now they always acted as if their perspective was the most valid one. Morchie in particular (hate that fight) very much loves acting the villain.

[huth]

I think its unlikely the Titans will get a confrontation with Iridakron. Besides even their smaller form I think they can handle their own(Unless its another fully formed Titan then its "Uh oh" for them. I can only guess the War of the Scaleborn could reveal a lot more of Iridakron's and the Incarnates beginnings.

Frankly, i'd find it more realistic if he's just completely underestimating their power and expecting slightly stronger keepers rather than what they actually are.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Btw I was doing Dawn just now and one thing that really bothered me is how the Infinites act as if they are villains. Up till now they always acted as if their perspective was the most valid one. Morchie in particular (hate that fight) very much loves acting the villain.

Interfering with history is definitely nefarious.

[Cheezits]

I think the finale will be the dragons earning emancipation from the Titans, which will subsequently finish the beef with remaining primals who will probably rally under Vyranoth following Fyrakks defeat. Old Friends standing together again.

Or maybe Tyr/Odyn oneshots Vyranoth?

I can't see the final patch being anything but a civil war with Tyr at this point.

[Worldshaper]

It's not unreasonable to think that there are systems in place that call the titans in specific cases. Like when serious corruption is detected, the world soul is about to be born etc. Aggramar showed up when Sargeras killed a constellar for example.
Not sure if Azeroth would eat the other titans. Or if we ever see her being born at all.
I still think Iridikron is being used by the void like it is hinted in the naga book and is far too cocky to realize it. But if the titans arrive i think its more likely we would see them sucked into a void portal into a prison or elsewhere in the void.

I mean, they kind of do. Just think of the Algalon quests in Ulduar.

[Polybius]

BfA was all seas. The Islands from Island Expeditions are all over the map. I mean, Dread Chain is arctic

We were robbed of Plunder Isle and Bloodsail Hold. There’s opportunity in PI and the other isles mentioned.

[Nymrohd]

Interfering with history is definitely nefarious.

Yes but the infinites always claimed that they are right to interfere and that they are doing it to help.

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We were robbed of Plunder Isle and Bloodsail Hold. There’s opportunity in PI and the other isles mentioned.

I very much doubt it will ever happen but a revamp could have those added. There is this awesome map of Azeroth with the Island Expeditions on it. I think that you could in fact create a version of Azeroth were we can just fly from continent to continent.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I think the finale will be the dragons earning emancipation from the Titans, which will subsequently finish the beef with remaining primals who will probably rally under Vyranoth following Fyrakks defeat. Old Friends standing together again.

Or maybe Tyr/Odyn oneshots Vyranoth?

I can't see the final patch being anything but a civil war with Tyr at this point.

I'd rather see a bit of a middle ground not completely overthrowing all titan related stuff since Dragons wouldn't be a thing without the Titans(Yes there are proto dragons but they aren't the same). This is all unless origins are dragons are under scrutiny.


What I mean by middle ground is Tyr being a bit more thoughtful reinforce his beliefs in mortals. It wouldn't be the first time a Titan related being not having a straight lined view of the world.

[Makabreska]

Yes but the infinites always claimed that they are right to interfere and that they are doing it to help.

Firstly, "hey, we just want to help" followed by attempting to kill everyone is laughable. Secondly, their "help" was immediately explained to be completely detrimental. They just finally dropped that crappy hypocritical approach.

And many villains in WoW history were saying that they are in the right.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I see some people saying that Iridikron is stupid to want to confront the titans, that he is not powerful enough etc.

I don't think that's true. Iridikron is not stupid, he clearly has a plan. Don't forget that it comes with the Void, Xal'atath and maybe even Azshara or other shenanigans like awakening Corrupted Azeroth etc.

I think these are hints about the next expansion, I would be surprised if we covered it in this expansion.

I mean his entire story essentially hinges on him not being stupid or else he is essentially Zovaal 2.0 except this time around there's no shocking "OH FUCK THE PROPHECY"/Schrodinger's Prophecy moment that protects him from scrutiny because he knows.