A small adjustment of the "HAPPI WHIMSY TIMES" is all that is necessary. I still say to this day Zaralek Caverns would of benefitted more with a more serious approach to the caverns instead of overbearing Mole LOL FUNNIES. When the serious stuff about Neltharion started and some Titan stuff, it was good.If only. This entire expansion has been so aggressively twee that I want to reach through my skull and tear out my occipital lobe. If we got a little struggle in the oncoming patches, I'd be sooooo happy.
(Warning, speculation and not accurate so no tears xd)They don't even know she exists is how I'd do it. At some point Amitus was born and is looking for those like her.If true, can't wait to hear how their retroactive and nonsensical explanation as to why there are only seven seats in the Seat of the Pantheon.
Well yeah and it wouldn't be a horrible twist. I also have to wonder what exactly Xal'atath(If thats really her) intends on all of this.He doesn't have to be stupid. Just ignorant of the Titan's actual power level. Which he doesn't really have any actual access to reliable information on, so that would be expected, not surprising.
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I doubt the issue is Grounded vs Cosmic and more people wanting EK/Kalimdor with race stories. The tone being too positive is one thing, but the Dragon Isles are too distant in story from most of the WoW races and factions. People will complain if the next expansion is an entirely new continent or planet as well.
Like do you remember Khadgar is a part of the story? Because i forgot until I was writing this.
The expansion is DELIBERATELY anti-faction and anti-EK/Kalimdor. Partially one of the reasons I think it may have been made with a revamp in mind: they don't want ANY of the story to clash with their post-timeskip EK and Kalimdor when it is the new leveling experience.
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I think people are taking Iridikron lines too literally.
Iridikron is a schemer with a giant well of Information available to him thanks to Xal'atath.
I doubt he's unaware of the Titans lvl of power.
Nor do his lines make me think that he'll just try go toe to toe with them when the time comes, but rather that he's setting them up to fail.
Formerly known as Arafal
I genuinely do wonder what a new continent would/could look like on the "other side/33% of/whatever" Azeroth? How large would it be? What would it look like on the map/mean to the overall lore? Etc.
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Personally, I just feel like Dragonflight (so far) has been ALL exposition and no real "BIG" moments, yet. Which can work "if" the rest of the expansion, and what's next (11.0) is all the result of the HUGE setup in Dragonflight. Imagine looking back in a few years and saying, "Damn, I'm glad they took their time to set everything up properly so that we understand everything back in DF." Although right now, we see it all as boring and lazy. Just a thought.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...flight/1636338 Found this on the forums. Were you just "regurgitating" this?
I can see that. They are definitely taking their time: Iridikron isn't revealed until the very end of launch, and the true backstory isn't revealed until halfway through in an unreleased book. And now it looks like Iridikron isn't even the final boss.
I wonder if the "too positive" thing will be brought up at the next Danuser interview, because the tree plot will HAVE to end on a positive note as well.
I agree with this. If the conversation has become "it has to be very grounded or very cosmic" then we've already lost, because we shouldn't need to be bouncing between extremes over and over again. I believe that the factions are so non-existent in Dragonflight precisely because of how toxic the faction war got in BfA, and that's entirely their fault. They wrote it, it's not like it came into being on its own. Blizzard in general, even outside of WoW, has a tendency to bounce between extremes when it comes to design, but it's getting very old with WoW's story in particular.
If the writers have to constantly be dragged kicking and screaming into the direction fans want on both a micro and macro level, and their more original concepts are decidedly rejected by the playerbase, then you have to start questioning whether they should be writing for this series at all.
Overall, I do like DF (systems, revamps of systems, leveling, story, lore, etc.). However, one of my BIGGEST gripes has definitely been with the fact that we are sent to the Dragon Isles (by the Horde/Alliance), and yet, after that 5 minute introduction, we never see/hear of them again.
I would be down for a cosmic expansion, though it would have to be one closer in setup to Legion. Definitely all in on the Fel and Demons, but with a decently grounded beginning with loads of opportunities for non Legion stuff to break the monotony.
Shadowlands could have worked just fine if it took place primarily in Northrend in my opinion.
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The world revamp dream will never die!
He's indubitably a schemer, but the whole "giant well of information" or connections to Xal'atath are at best supposition. Whether she told him the true scope if she did at all is also a matter of contention. Our experience with Old Gods so far has them rather be cryptic and fragmented with information, with it often not being much use until after the fact.
And setting up your foe to fail when you do not know the actual extent of their capabilities is no better than engaging them directly without that knowledge.
His logic is "If there's another titan, shouldn't there be another flight?" Well considering there's two "nature" Dragonflights, Ysera and Alexstrasza, that logic is already debunked. The Titans do not directly correspond to the Dragonflights. We can't even say concretely that "There isn't a Silver Flight because the one dragon in the whole world Tyr wanted died against Galakrond" is the reason rather than "They decided against a 6th flight for other reasons."
Though I do agree the Titan Lore in Hearthstone is indicative of them becoming important to WoW lore very soon. Due to the conclusion to the new Dungeon. Also they gave us Inge, a Warrior keeper which explains the Vrykul's culture. Vrykul supposedly developed closest to the Titan-forged yet they aren't very titan like, but now they gave us Inge, a Watcher created by the Primus.
To be honest this entire expansion seems to be very filler like honestly. While i myself want a story to focus on localized plot points this seems to be flirting with cosmic end of the world ending garbage ( think a shitty Michael Bay film ) and some sort of tongue in cheek cheese ( the niffin ) where as i want would like a real bastard villain who does horrific things think a Game of Thrones style of doomer narrative and until there is some real gut wrenching teeth i could care less.
Also this expansions voice acting has been terrible compared to almost every other triple a games which while it might not be fair i compare every game to one another let alone i expect them to be better since they have coming on 19 years worth of experience.
They still have not fixed the problem of keeping me subscribed once i get KSH which for an always online world is kinda sad.
That's not my logic...
Golg and agg don't have flights and don't expect them too
The thing is that dralad was name dropped during DF for his first canonical mention.
His corpse went missing, so I'm just speculating that tyr res'd him since his name was in his computer.
Then perhaps had amitus ascend dralad through him and hide him as he the silver aspect of light for his 1mil iq plan
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To be honest this entire expansion seems to be very filler like honestly. While i myself want a story to focus on localized plot points this seems to be flirting with cosmic end of the world ending garbage ( think a shitty Michael Bay film ) and some sort of tongue in cheek cheese ( the niffin ) where as i want would like a real bastard villain who does horrific things think a Game of Thrones style of doomer narrative and until there is some real gut wrenching teeth i could care less.
Wow does not need game of thrones where chars are killed off at random just to be "Oooh so gritty" The voice acting also in this expansion is fine, what are you smoking, Ebyssian sounds great for who he is. Wrathion is always a treat to hear, sabellian fits the character. Neltharion's voice still has the deep voice most dragons do. Even Nozdormu is good when talking to and he is a tragic character if he's still to be Murozond. The unbalanced tone of the expansion isn't always good,(The Niffen make this difficult in Zaralek caverns).
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Prospects of a 6th flight are interesting but I feel like a light-themed flight that was centered around protection would basically cannibalize what little the red flight already have that's unique about them.