The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dvalin]

"100%" is pretty rich, tbh.

Like I said they distinguished between The Hinterlands, The Twilight Highlands and Northeron in the gryphon names. We also have the sudden re-emergence of Ironwood.

Lastly, they can retcon any past statements or place names as much as they like. That's why, y'know, Northeron is in a different location in the Eastern Kingdoms concept map than it is in Cataclysm.

I think there's a compelling case to be made that the Wildhammer dwarves, mounted atop their mighty gryphons and always chasing the storm, steadily expanded northwards over the years. From Khaz Modan to Twilight Highlands, to the Hinterlands, and finally Northeron. The further north they got, the friendlier they got with High Elves, the higher up in the mountains they dwelled, and the more reclusive they got.

You're talking about a zone we already have: The Hinterlands.

Anyway, yes of course Blizzard can change anything they want, but is it plausible? I doubt so.

[Marlamin]

So Legion Remix runs into 11.2.7? Because as I understood that is running 4 phases * 2 weeks + 1 month after everything is unlocked

Some sneaky late housing rewards from Remix would be cool.

The roadmap has always implied Remix starts during (not immediately with) 11.2.5 and runs through 11.2.7 for a bit too, so that would fit.

I hope there's some early housing reward collection too. There are signs that there is a system in place already to convert items to collected housing decor when the time is there.

[Hearthfinder]

You're talking about a zone we already have: The Hinterlands.

Anyway, yes of course Blizzard can change anything they want, but is it plausible? I doubt so.

Not sure I follow, what do you mean that we already have the Hinterlands?

[micwini]

5 days left. Any world revamp believers? QT just being the 80-90. Everything else 1-80. New quests n shit. World content at max lvl.

[Joshuaj]

I imagine we'll start getting legit leaks on Monday ngl

[Beerplz]

Anyone remember the Shadowlands leak ? Was it on Blizzards website or some other website where the Image of Bolvar in LK gear was hidden you just had to add a "1" or something to the url and you got the image lmao

[Sondrelk]

5 days left. Any world revamp believers? QT just being the 80-90. Everything else 1-80. New quests n shit. World content at max lvl.

I still stand by my prediction of Northern EK, with a heavy focus on Quel'thalas. Zul'Aman is an expanded subzone with a new Zul'Aman dungeon. And the first raid is Silvermoon, maybe the Sunwell depending on how hard the developers want to push the TBC nostalgia.

High Elves is not happening. Zul'Aman raid is not happening. New system is a variant of Hero Talents, and most of the ones we currently have will be pruned or put into the normal Talent tree depending on how popular they are. Heavier focus on class themes to replace Hero Talents as a customization option for the very few ones like Dark Ranger that changed the theme of the spec.

[Mackud]

Not sure I follow, what do you mean that we already have the Hinterlands?

You've answered your own question already really in a previous post to this without realising.

It's the most outdated of all the old zones as the story timeline there The Wildhammer aren't even part of the Alliance yet but in the 'current' timeline they're part of the Council of Ironforge.

If there's 1 zone you'd mortgage your own house getting a facelift, it's that one

[Nebron]

5 days left. Any world revamp believers? QT just being the 80-90. Everything else 1-80. New quests n shit. World content at max lvl.

I don't believe there's any honest world revamp believer left after WSS announcement

Yet, for some reason I still choose to stay optimistic about northern part of Lordaeron being revamped for Midnight (Plaguelands + City of Lordaeron)
It just plays so nicely into Turalyon + Scarlet Crusade + Arathor + Silver Hand paladins storylines that I cannot help myself but stay truthful to my beliefs

[Marlamin]

Anyone remember the Shadowlands leak ? Was it on Blizzards website or some other website where the Image of Bolvar in LK gear was hidden you just had to add a "1" or something to the url and you got the image lmao

Bolvar first leaked on a photo of the IRL merch catalog and was then later confirmed through the online gear store, iirc. My memory is shit, though.

[Wangming]

You're talking about a zone we already have: The Hinterlands.

Anyway, yes of course Blizzard can change anything they want, but is it plausible? I doubt so.

Zone names can change in development. I mean, back in alpha the island Teldrassil was on was named Kalidar. But later on all mentions of Kalidar were dropped and now the island is also Telrassil, even when it doesn't make sense much considering something drassil always refers to the World Trees. And the tree didn't exist till after WC3 so the island had to have its own name.

Honestly, a lot of things about beta and alpha bot is fascinating. Guild housing was planned. We had 3 professions that didn't get into release. You could manually increase attributes.
Anything from attributes, skills, talents and tradeskills (professions later) were purchased with skill points.
Mages had an unlocking spell
Rogues could use shields.



On another note there was a leak at Blizzard about the new class for Diablo 4.
If things are leaking, we might also get some WoW stuff if we are lucky.

- - - Updated - - -

5 days left. Any world revamp believers? QT just being the 80-90. Everything else 1-80. New quests n shit. World content at max lvl.

North EK revamp cut off at the Thandol Span. A man can dream...
It is the most logical and the best of all possible worlds.

[Darkarath]

5 days left. Any world revamp believers? QT just being the 80-90. Everything else 1-80. New quests n shit. World content at max lvl.

Brother, the dream never dies ¡¡ It only increases in size and scope until its inevitable arrival ¡¡

The World Tier system IMO is an indication of how they might be dealing with the revamped zones. Just make them like Diablo 4. Full of objectives, treasures, rares, quests that change each day and you can decide what to focus on. Implement questlines, dungeons and delves in those zones when needed.

Another thing that might happen since Blizzard is teasing us with the Voidstorm is that we really get a new world map for Midnight, and that with each patch we rediscover some old zones that are initially covered by the Void, or simply blocked by the Voidstorm, not invaded by the Void.

An archaeology revamp could fit pretty well into this system too. It should be linked to old content rewards. There are too many collectibles. Make them easier to track and obtain with this profession, among new rewards too, of course.

The world tier system could be the new player experience that Blizzard has been talking of for a while now. A more arcade experience that let us explore any part of the world that we want, hopefully with some well implemented basic lore points.

Also now that we know that we are not getting new Artifact Weapon Skins in Legion Remix, I bet that they're coming back in Midnight along with the Class Order Halls, which would be evergreen. So a nice chance that we get those in revamped places around the world.

[Auxis]

Dumb question: is the entirety of Manaforge Omega set inside the building the raid portal leads to, or is it partially inside the giant cracked K'aresh core that seems super important in the K'aresh skybox?

[Marlamin]

On another note there was a leak at Blizzard about the new class for Diablo 4.
If things are leaking, we might also get some WoW stuff if we are lucky.

The way that leaked is so incredibly stupid. Saw that build notification scroll by a few days ago and did a facepalm. They might as well have put it on a billboard.

[Mackud]

Zone names can change in development. I mean, back in alpha the island Teldrassil was on was named Kalidar. But later on all mentions of Kalidar were dropped and now the island is also Telrassil, even when it doesn't make sense much considering something drassil always refers to the World Trees. And the tree didn't exist till after WC3 so the island had to have its own name.

Honestly, a lot of things about beta and alpha bot is fascinating. Guild housing was planned. We had 3 professions that didn't get into release. You could manually increase attributes.
Anything from attributes, skills, talents and tradeskills (professions later) were purchased with skill points.
Mages had an unlocking spell
Rogues could use shields.



On another note there was a leak at Blizzard about the new class for Diablo 4.
If things are leaking, we might also get some WoW stuff if we are lucky.

- - - Updated - - -
.

You're absolutely right about everything you said. But it's the geography where the zone is located and what races inhabit the zone which makes it standout from everything else.

High Elves which is closely linked to the main story and a Troll tribe who are politically neutral and rejected an invitation to join the Horde when they attended Talanji's ceremony to the throne, because of how recent that event was nothing has happened which would change their mind either.

Just pure common sense would say they're absolutely being included in rather than just being kept in their Cataclysm state.

[Wangming]

The way that leaked is so incredibly stupid. Saw that build notification scroll by a few days ago and did a facepalm. They might as well have put it on a billboard.

Yeah, let's put it in the build name.
Can't wait for the new PTR build for WoW 11.2.5.playabletherealsasneutralalliedrace

[Pyrophax]

- Old Dev Q&A from Cataclysm era suggests Northeron might've been retconned into northern part of Twilight Highlands

Its not [might've been retconned] - it was retconed. There is no such thing now as Northeron. And there are no devs that remember that place exists near Quel'Thalas.

[Hearthfinder]

Its not [might've been retconned] - it was retconed. There is no such thing now as Northeron. And there are no devs that remember that place exists near Quel'Thalas.

There is literally a gryphon in-game being released soon which says it is from Northeron.

[Pyrophax]

5 days left. Any world revamp believers? QT just being the 80-90. Everything else 1-80. New quests n shit. World content at max lvl.

Like, Quel'Thalas IS revamped. And Ulduar will be revamped too. Its safe to expect Draenei Isles will be revamped too, maybe after WSS. Or they build New Exodar somewhere else, but to me it shows Blizzard path to gradual revamping zones.

- - - Updated - - -

There is literally a gryphon in-game being released soon which says it is from Northeron.

I mean that place is destroyed - so in current timeline there is no such place. But yes, Blizzard can pull it from their asses near Strat with easily.

[Ochinko]

Dumb question: is the entirety of Manaforge Omega set inside the building the raid portal leads to, or is it partially inside the giant cracked K'aresh core that seems super important in the K'aresh skybox?

From what I could tell, you kind of end up behind and below the Manaforge during your fights (Nexus-King). The Manaforge sits ontop an "island", during the trash you leave the actual facility and end up below the island before going back inside to fight Dimensius. So its just another island / planet part floating around.