The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

They made a deal to gain their power
I'm going to speculate that the deal was with Xal
She's trying to regain power and I'm ready for it

That deal appears to be with the Primalists though. Game isn't exactly subtle about it.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

P.S.: the lgtq representation was too distracting and every romance you would witness on the dragon isles is a gay one. By principle I'm against romance stories because they seldom serve the story and here it's definitely not serving anything else than saying "yep everybody's gay"...

Man some one should really tell Malaygos and Sindy or Tyranda and Malf that they are now gay, you know the two big romances that got cinematic’s while we don’t have a single gay couple that’s not some back round character.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Man some one should really tell Malaygos and Sindy or Tyranda and Malf that they are now gay, you know the two big romances that got cinematic’s while we don’t have a single gay couple that’s not some back round character.

I don't think he meant them.

Alex and Vyranoth were getting spicy, though

Stop it.

[Catastrophy349]

Man some one should really tell Malaygos and Sindy or Tyranda and Malf that they are now gay, you know the two big romances that got cinematic’s while we don’t have a single gay couple that’s not some back round character.

Alex and Vyranoth were getting spicy, though

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I don't think he meant them.

That’s the point. There are plenty of none gay romances on the dragon isle and all of the biggest ones are straight.

[Skildar]

Man some one should really tell Malaygos and Sindy or Tyranda and Malf that they are now gay, you know the two big romances that got cinematic’s while we don’t have a single gay couple that’s not some back round character.

You're right for Malygos and Sindragosa but I can't count Malfurion and Tyrande (they've been an unsupportable couple since wc3 and we barely see them during this expac and for once it serves a purpose to show their romance). There are not plenty of non gay romances this expansion. It was distractingly focused on lgbt romances.
I want people to see being gay as something completely normal but they did not manage to bring these characters in a way that has felt satisfying. Everytime it felt like someone was shouting at you : "HEY LOOK, we have gays in our game!"

[Revamp Man]

That deal appears to be with the Primalists though. Game isn't exactly subtle about it.

This is where it's iffy
They did make a bargain with them but in game why would a Djaradin that made a deal with elemental incarnates for power have the power of shadowflame which is supposedly a void based power

[Santandame]

Why do you assume the "Heretics" from Avaloren Odyn talked about are evil? For all we know they are simply Titan-forged who don't like his "purge them all" management style. Titan-forged Heretics who managed to save data on how the planet was before the Titans changed everything might solve all our current problems & pave the way for that world revamp.Then does that mean my theory that the Djaradin that got the curse of flesh became trolls, is true? Djaradin don't have flesh but they are a naturally occurring race that has a few troll-like affectations.

My personal wish is that the Heretics are neither Void/Old God aligned, nor Order/Titan aligned.

I want them to be a coalition of several new races that are more advanced and powerful than the Horde/Alliance. They reject both the Titan’s ordering as well as see the Void for what it is. I’d like to see them take their power from a more Elemental/Life magic standpoint.

Sadly, I think the most likely scenario is they are indeed either Void aligned or Titanic Watchers that have rebelled. Which aren’t as exciting to me.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You're right for Malygos and Sindragosa but I can't count Malfurion and Tyrande (they've been an unsupportable couple since wc3 and we barely see them during this expac and for once it serves a purpose to show their romance). There are not plenty of non gay romances this expansion. It was distractingly focused on lgbt romances.
I want people to see being gay as something completely normal but they did not manage to bring these characters in a way that has felt satisfying. Everytime it felt like someone was shouting at you : "HEY LOOK, we have gays in our game!"

We literally just got a quest about Tyranda and Malf starting there romance this patch with the bronze stuff, not sure how you can say they barely around when most gay couples have like one quest.

Beyond them off the top of my head we got

That one tuskar couple
Sebillion and what ever is brood mother is called
Nozdormu and Soridormi
Thrall and Aggra (not on the isle but I’d say still count)
Baine and Mayla


And then likely tons of smaller couples I'm missing, there are plenty.

[Catastrophy349]

New 10.1.7 build INC soon?

[huth]

This is where it's iffy
They did make a bargain with them but in game why would a Djaradin that made a deal with elemental incarnates for power have the power of shadowflame which is supposedly a void based power

It's pretty obvious they got that from Neltharion's labs. Besides, Fyrakk, one of said Incarnates, has that same power too and got it in the same place.

[Hitei]

That’s the point. There are plenty of none gay romances on the dragon isle and all of the biggest ones are straight.

Personally I'm just waiting for Azshara-Xal'atath power couple.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Personally I'm just waiting for Azshara-Xal'atath power couple.

ooh I love unashamedly evil couples that would be great.

[Alanar]

Personally I'm just waiting for Azshara-Xal'atath power couple.

I hope its not a romance tbh and just somewhat equal allies.

Xal atah, is still so.. unknown, its hard for me to get excited about questionsmarks tbh.

[Raetary]

Personally I'm just waiting for Azshara-Xal'atath power couple.

Oh Lord, that has the potential to be an even greater ship than Wrathduin.

[Lady Atia]

The PTR servers are offline btw, so new build inc ^.^

[Hitei]

I hope its not a romance tbh, there is no need for that.

But Azshara's plan was always to get married to a cosmic god and now there's an Azshara-sized, elven-appearing, attractive, probable Old God right there and on the same team already.

They can be double queens of the new Black Empire.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I hope its not a romance tbh and just somewhat equal allies.

Xal atah, is still so.. unknown, its hard for me to get excited about questionsmarks tbh.

Personally, I don't see it. I honestly think it seems like Azshara is acting independently of the Void—with the exception of whatever she can subjugate, in connection to her use of a Void portal in the past—and is more interested in consolidating power. Unless we're going to retcon Chronicles again with the tired "kek this document we sold as being absolute is ahktually a lie how subversive!", I would also be inclined to suggest the Void Lords' endgame doesn't exactly reflect the kind of world where someone can run an empire. I figure Xal'atath and Azshara should realistically be at odds.

[Alanar]

But Azshara's plan was always to get married to a cosmic god and now there's an Azshara-sized, elven-appearing, attractive, probable Old God right there and on the same team already.

They can be double queens of the new Black Empire.

Xal is just using this body as far as we can tell as it was convient. What exactly she is doesnt matter to me, but if she is an old god, we woulf have a repeat. Azshara is her own thing, I wouldnt be excited about basically a repeat of N zoth and Azshara. There is only one queen, I wanna bet Azshara thinks the same.

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Personally, I don't see it. I honestly think it seems like Azshara is acting independently of the Void—with the exception of whatever she can subjugate, in connection to her use of a Void portal in the past—and is more interested in consolidating power. Unless we're going to retcon Chronicles again with the tired "kek this document we sold as being absolute is ahktually a lie how subversive!", I would also be inclined to suggest the Void Lords' endgame doesn't exactly reflect the kind of world where someone can run an empire. I figure Xal'atath and Azshara should realistically be at odds.

We have yet to see if Azshara is truly with the void now, the portal could be something she learned grom N zoth.

Right now, I woulf say its more likely she has her own plan and its usefull to have allies with power. It will never get to that point were they are at odds in who will rule and who will come second or w/e by that time we have already destroyed their plans in wows fashion.

[Foolicious]

But Azshara's plan was always to get married to a cosmic god and now there's an Azshara-sized, elven-appearing, attractive, probable Old God right there and on the same team already.

They can be double queens of the new Black Empire.

There is still Denathrius if it doesn't work out with Xal'atath.