The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[vintage79]

Are these the legendary dwarven wives?

[Cheezits]

beledar was supposed to be a naaru or something related btw

...hah! Well, that's one way to reveal it.

[Santandame]

Yes, this. This is what I'm hoping for.

The ideal scenario, for me, is that she becomes our untrustworthy ally for now, and ends the saga as a villain with great publicity- who only the leaders and heroes know is still a villain. Bring her back to her prime- as a beloved queen- and then give her her own expansion.

Yep, would be ideal for Azshara. The leaders know who she really is but the rest of Elf kind and even the general populace of Azeroth see her as the saviour of Quel’thalas/Azeroth. She’d essentially be worshipped on mass again.

Hell, even have some of the world leaders even be fooled by her or feel indebted.

[Makorus]

I mean, yeah, of course the Beledar was supposed to be a Naaru, seeing how it literally looks like a space ship.

However, it quite clearly isn't that anymore.

[Enrif]

Because what Azshara needs is yet another single-patch half-assed attempt to include her? Likewise, what we need is another directionless expansion that deals with like 5 plots at all without satisfyingly resolving a single one

Really? People here call for all of northern EK to be revamped, but Azhara is too much? In a plot about elves and void? Two things she is intrinsically connected to?

[Wyrt]

Would have to check the tww press kits, but my guess is would be, they were already in the TWW press Kits and they focus on the new characters in Midnight instead

https://blizzard.gamespress.com/Worl...r-Within-76896

Nope, just Anduin and Thrall.

[Makorus]

Really? People here call for all of northern EK to be revamped, but Azhara is too much? In a plot about elves and void? Two things she is intrinsically connected to?

Northern EK is just as stupid.

And yeah, absolutely.

Azshara wouldn't be the primary antagonist, because that is clearly Xal, there's no way they aren't going to milk her for the whole expansion.
Azshara also fundamentally 1.) wouldn't ally with Xalatath and 2.) wouldn't ally with us.

So you have an Azshara that you have to resolve in the middle of the expansion as a filler patch, again, like in BfA.

Metanarratively, Azshara is literally the same character as Xalatath.

[Marlamin]

We have our first Midnight encrypted wowdev build! It is masquerading as a 11.2.5 build but we know the truth thanks to the server being on 12.0.0 with the same build number.

Happy new encrypted expansion internal alpha day, everyone!

[Enrif]

They are also core races that had fans since the RTS games.
Which is why Ogre and Naga are still being requested and hoped despite them not being pretty elves with easy to fit transmog.

But gnomes and goblines rank very low, lower than Vulpera, even, so transmog is probably a big thing.

Honestly, I'm quite surprised about the Vulpera. I like am, but I'm really not sure why they are so high up.
Not pretty elf. Not good for transmog. Not a core race. Can't be Druid, Paladin or Demon Hunter.
And yet, the third most popular allied race, and most popular of the midgets. Ahead of all the non-allied races added since TBC.

The simple answer for vulpera: they are cute furries.

[Santandame]

Really? People here call for all of northern EK to be revamped, but Azhara is too much? In a plot about elves and void? Two things she is intrinsically connected to?

Metzen said Midnight would be about the unification of the Elves. I’d be a lot more interested in the possibility that they’re united again under Azshara. It would be poetic irony and would open up a lot more potentially interesting stories to have a leader be so very clearly evil but the likes of Anduin, Alleria, Jaina etc being unable to act on it because to depose her would be to alienate the general Elf populace.

[Trad skeleton]

Northern EK is just as stupid.

And yeah, absolutely.

Azshara wouldn't be the primary antagonist, because that is clearly Xal, there's no way they aren't going to milk her for the whole expansion.
Azshara also fundamentally 1.) wouldn't ally with Xalatath and 2.) wouldn't ally with us.

So you have an Azshara that you have to resolve in the middle of the expansion as a filler patch, again, like in BfA.

Metanarratively, Azshara is literally the same character as Xalatath.

Yeah, she absolutely deserves more. Nazjatar and Nyalotha being patch content and not expansion content will forever go down as a terrible choice.

[Cheezits]

I still think the "unification of the elves" strictly relates to Quel'thalas and the High Elves/Blood Elves.

[Santandame]

Northern EK is just as stupid.

And yeah, absolutely.

Azshara wouldn't be the primary antagonist, because that is clearly Xal, there's no way they aren't going to milk her for the whole expansion.
Azshara also fundamentally 1.) wouldn't ally with Xalatath and 2.) wouldn't ally with us.

So you have an Azshara that you have to resolve in the middle of the expansion as a filler patch, again, like in BfA.

Metanarratively, Azshara is literally the same character as Xalatath.

Why wouldn’t she?

She’s an opportunist. She’d ally with us if it meant her getting what she wanted.

[Marlamin]

We have our first Midnight encrypted wowdev build! It is masquerading as a 11.2.5 build but we know the truth thanks to the server being on 12.0.0 with the same build number.

Happy new encrypted expansion internal alpha day, everyone!

And now it is official!

https://bsky.app/profile/algalon.ghs.../3lwhttdjbhu2d

[milkmustache]

I'm really, really not sold on Azshara being involved here.

I think the Elven tribes in reference were the Sin'dorei, Ren'dorei and Quel'dorei. I think the Shal'dorei and Kal'dorei will play very minimal roles at that. Adding in Azshara just feels like one too many cooks in the kitchen.

[Makorus]

I still think the "unification of the elves" strictly relates to Quel'thalas and the High Elves/Blood Elves.

Yeah, I think scattered Elven tribes is exclusively Void/Blood/High Elves.

It would be incredibly weird to shoehorn Night Elves in who... aren't really relevant to that? Nightborne are kind of included in Blood Elves because politics, but I still don't expect a big presence of them.

[milkmustache]

And now it is official!

https://bsky.app/profile/algalon.ghs.../3lwhttdjbhu2d

Yahoo! We're getting closer. And of course a coworker scheduled a meeting 30 minutes into the ONL. D:

[Wangming]

We have our first Midnight encrypted wowdev build! It is masquerading as a 11.2.5 build but we know the truth thanks to the server being on 12.0.0 with the same build number.

Happy new encrypted expansion internal alpha day, everyone!

Well, dear mister Parrot

In the immortal words of Frank Palpatine: Dewit!

[Enrif]

If they really brought Azshara back, would they really do everything they can to make her look as much like Xal as possible?

Azhara is a void empowered night elf, that turned her first into a naga (since n’zoth and the other old gods are into mutations), that was aiming for the true power of the void, which resides with xalatath now, and she brought more humanoid nerubians with her. So… yeah, makes sense for her to look like that

[Makorus]

Why wouldn’t she?

She’s an opportunist. She’d ally with us if it meant her getting what she wanted.

Yeah, she'd ally with us, but I don't really see why any elf would ally with her. Plus, it's literally just the whole core concept of 11.2 all over again.