The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[kavikor]

But then like every major human whose a mage also lives forever so the trade off doesn't really exist.

Its probably old lore or used to explain why all the major lore mages aren't Elves tbh.

[milkmustache]

Also: if Quel'thalas gets "Tears of the Kingdomed" I think it would moreso just be the land flying in the air rather than the place being actually busted up. The Draenei ship can park nearby to help and there could potentially be some stuff brought in by the voidstorm floating nearby.

Exodar/Vindicaar as a sort of quarantine or containment protocol for the radiation from the storm would be incredible. Especially if they have a new city to take over the city portion lol.

[Auburst]

By the way, in regards to a "special guest who saves Lor" popping up in the cinematic, here are my rankings:
Azshara

It should be her.

[The-Shan]

Sunstrider is the first instance of that suffix being used by High Elves, because it is the ancient family name of Dath'Remar Sunstrider. He was a Night Elf at the time and the name was ancient AFAIK. It means "he who walks in the day".

Generally speaking "strider" refers to someone who walks with long and swift steps, and as you probably will recall it is also a name used byAragorn in LotR when he is a ranger in the wilds.

So I think it's all right to associate it with somebody who is swift, lithe, agile, etc.

The Farstriders are agile elven rangers.
Hawkstriders dash across the landscape with quick feet.

What I am saying is that its context in Warcraft has developed beyond being simply describing 'swift', as it also has a regal, cultural, and arcane context in Warcraft because of how it's been used in the past.

[Andromedes]

It should be her.

Yes. She will be the unifier of all elven tribes.

[The-Shan]

Also: if Quel'thalas gets "Tears of the Kingdomed" I think it would moreso just be the land flying in the air rather than the place being actually busted up. The Draenei ship can park nearby to help and there could potentially be some stuff brought in by the voidstorm floating nearby.

I don't really understand why people are suggesting en masse that Quel'thalas is going to be floating. I haven't seen a clue yet that suggests that at all. It just feels like fanfiction people are rolling with now. I keep seeing people saying they think it's going to lift off the ground and be a flying continent.

[Magistrate]

Also: if Quel'thalas gets "Tears of the Kingdomed" I think it would moreso just be the land flying in the air rather than the place being actually busted up. The Draenei ship can park nearby to help and there could potentially be some stuff brought in by the voidstorm floating nearby.

As much as I'd like a sky zone, what I want, and I think what most people want, out of Quel'thelas is the city rebuilt and experiencing a fan favorite zone expanded in scope and detail to the standards of modern zones after being neglected for almost 20 years. For that reason, I don't think this stuff would happen and don't personally think it would be a good idea.

[milkmustache]

I don't really understand why people are suggesting en masse that Quel'thalas is going to be floating. I haven't seen a clue yet that suggests that at all. It just feels like fanfiction people are rolling with now. I keep seeing people saying they think it's going to lift off the ground and be a flying continent.

It's the same thing as always happens; a few leaks have suggested it, the conversation snowballs itself into a proposed theory. Something will take its place. I say this as someone completely guilty of conversing on it lol. Last week's Northeron is this week's floating Quel'thalas.

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As much as I'd like a sky zone, what I want, and I think what most people want, out of Quel'thelas is the city rebuilt and experiencing a fan favorite zone expanded in scope and detail to the standards of modern zones after being neglected for almost 20 years. For that reason, I don't think this stuff would happen and don't personally think it would be a good idea.

This is absolutely the right call. This isn't a situation like Cataclysm where the idea of a revamp needs some sort of drastic change. The 20 years of storytelling, visual upgrades, and structural changes is the drastic change. Bring us back to Quel'thalas, give us some Void on Quel'danas and pockets of the other zones, and start rebuilding this world in the modern era and I think everyone will be thrilled.

[FossilFree]

I'd say the puzzle leak is saying something else, that there will be a flying Draenei city over QT. The same one from the heritage armor questline.

[Wangming]

This is absolutely the right call. This isn't a situation like Cataclysm where the idea of a revamp needs some sort of drastic change. The 20 years of storytelling, visual upgrades, and structural changes is the drastic change. Bring us back to Quel'thalas, give us some Void on Quel'danas and pockets of the other zones, and start rebuilding this world in the modern era and I think everyone will be thrilled.

A , fucking, men.
What we want is seeing the beloved places done right with current tech. Not floating Skymoon city.

[Magistrate]

Yes. She will be the unifier of all elven tribes.

Her main attribute is that she wants power above everything else. I'm not sure I see her putting a lot of value in shoving all the broken, tint populations of high elves together. I'm not sure she'd see that as a big power win. It's only been 30 years since 90% of high elves were killed, and only 10% of that 10% became high elves, and only a fraction of that 10% of 10% became void elves.

The sunwell itself is probably almost nothing compared to the dark heart at this point, the sunwell consisting of a single drop of the original well of eternity and the dark heart containing the literal power of multiple gods.

If I were azshara, I would be scheming on how to break up the deal between xal and nzoth and iridikron and thinking of how to make them fight each other and steal all their work for herself.

[huth]

It's gonna be lightbound garrosh swooping in and saving him

Zovaal and Sargeras arrive in pink tutus and proceed to introduce themselves through interpretative dance, causing everybody to forget what they were doing and stare in bewilderment. Xal then retreats, having lost the advantage of surprise and deciding there are to many players involved in that scenario.

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A , fucking, men.
What we want is seeing the beloved places done right with current tech. Not floating Skymoon city.

Well, we could still have sky islands above that, just as an addition rather than Quel'thalas getting yeeted into the sky.

[Xilurm]

As much as I'd like a sky zone, what I want, and I think what most people want, out of Quel'thelas is the city rebuilt and experiencing a fan favorite zone expanded in scope and detail to the standards of modern zones after being neglected for almost 20 years. For that reason, I don't think this stuff would happen and don't personally think it would be a good idea.

And then do the same for the rest of EK and Kalimdor over the years.

That includes keeping the new Draenei city on Azuremyst and revamping that place too, along with Teldrassil etc.

[Catastrophy349]

Not to be a "buzz kill," but simply trying to be realistic. While many (most) of us here are obsessed with and knowledgeable about World of Warcraft lore, the idea of Blizzard just updating old zones in the "modern era" is NOT going to go over well for the 99% of people who don't give two hoots about the lore. To us, it makes sense. It's been nearly 20 years since these zones have been updated. However, to the "regular Joe" who doesn't pay attention/care about the lore, they will just say that Blizzard is being lazy and cutting costs. "Why are we going back to zones we already visited? This sucks."

I can just see the outrage already.

[Therougetitan]

It's gonna be lightbound garrosh swooping in and saving him

Lor'themar: Garrosh! But you're dead!
*Garrosh stares into the camera*
Garrosh: Times change.

[Raetary]

Alright, so chances are i'm not gonna be adding anything else to the train today.
And i'll be working all day tomorrow and get home just about when the ONL starts.

So unless anyone got some last minute ideas, this will be the final result for this years Hypetrain:


It was an honor, as always.

And i already got the TLT train conceptualized.
That one's gonna be extra special.

Here's the train gallery for those who might be interested in the progression:
https://imgur.com/a/oUO28NQ

[Wangming]

Well, we could still have sky islands above that, just as an addition rather than Quel'thalas getting yeeted into the sky.

Yeah. I'm not against a sky island, but not for QT, or Lordaeron or whatever.

Speaking of which. If we get a revamp of other cities, like if Stormwind and Orgrimmar are revisited and more work is done besides and added voidstorm. What would anyone like?
I have to say I am very unsatisfied with how Stormwind looks now.

[Greyfang]

Back after a while just for the Hype train and some leaks. What are the currently believable leaks at this point?

[Cheezits]

Not to be a "buzz kill," but simply trying to be realistic. While many (most) of us here are obsessed with and knowledgeable about World of Warcraft lore, the idea of Blizzard just updating old zones in the "modern era" is NOT going to go over well for the 99% of people who don't give two hoots about the lore. To us, it makes sense. It's been nearly 20 years since these zones have been updated. However, to the "regular Joe" who doesn't pay attention/care about the lore, they will just say that Blizzard is being lazy and cutting costs. "Why are we going back to zones we already visited? This sucks."

I can just see the outrage already.

I was going to say: while a lot of us would just like HD Quel'thalas + Zul'aman zone + mystery zone, I think if they want new players they will have to punch it up with a wow factor. And not just Quel'danas with purple laser/storm because that happened in Legion.

Sky islands would make it interesting, they just have to be careful not to ruin the old aesthetics- and from the art they showed of SMC, I don't think that will be an issue.

[Nymrohd]

I'd say the puzzle leak is saying something else, that there will be a flying Draenei city over QT. The same one from the heritage armor questline.

Or you know, Tempest Keep with A'dal in it.