1. #106881
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Because there’s 0 story reason for Nightborne DHs.
    Alliance having one extra DH race doesn’t matter tbh.
    I mean they could have written one? I don't care much about faction balance, but there are a few races that could have gotten the dh class too.

  2. #106882
    it's clear that blizzard is either cutting corners or can't keep up with the content cadence. they need to slow down and work more on the quality of what they release

  3. #106883
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    It has no system gameplay feature other than Prey. Maybe Prey ends up impressive. But we have no reason to think there will be something new to classes other than an additional spec; prepare for 10 more skill points in your existing Hero Talents and a new DH Hero Talent and that's it.
    Like I said, then, a pretty bog-standard expansion.

    You don't always need to staple on new gameplay systems just because you need new gameplay systems. That just leads to bloat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raetary View Post
    This is a playable race we are talking about, if they were happening they absolutely would be in the trailer...
    Again, it could still be a War Within feature that isn't coming in Midnight nor require a Midnight preorder, so it would make zero sense to put it in there if it was just part of some Ka'resh epilogue content, or the story content in 11.2.7.

  5. #106885
    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    "High Elves" could just be additional "normal" hairstyles for Void Elves. That would pretty much do it.
    It could be, except VE's are referenced in game as VE's not HE's and turn purple in combat, and have VE racials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dvalin View Post
    They're keeping the strong features (dragonriding, delves), add a gigantic new one (housing) as well as a new experimental one (prey).

    Then there's the usual (new zones with world-content, raids, dungeons). What's not to like? The premise looks interesting, the zones look amazing.

    People have weird expectations.

    Anyway, I really hope Harondar is reachable through Azj-Kahet/Khaz Algar.
    I mostly want new gameplay. All I am getting here is Prey and it seems to be cosmetic focused. If it is just cosmetics, you rush through it and once you get everything, you turn it off.

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    Valeera is the new delve companion. People might actually start doing delves again now ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dvalin View Post
    Anyway, I really hope Harondar is reachable through Azj-Kahet/Khaz Algar.
    Post-SL, after the repeat mistake of already doing it again post-Cata, they seem to really fucking despise any disconnected zones, so I imagine there's either a tunnel from Silvermoon into it, or a teleport, or something.

    Everything is really pretty seamless in TWW. The longest route is having to go from Dornogal into Hallowfall, and that's really one airlock and two turns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    Valeera is the new delve companion. People might actually start doing delves again now ...
    Mod to add Brann's frustrating GET OUTTA THE WAAAAAY voice over to her, let's go.

  9. #106889
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    I mean they could have written one? I don't care much about faction balance, but there are a few races that could have gotten the dh class too.
    You still have Illidan's unsurprising and inevitable return to hope for new DH races.
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    So, what would be your reaction, if you found out, that come cata release first patch, blizzard were planning to kill everyone by sending a bear through the mail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakir View Post
    Post-SL, after the repeat mistake of already doing it again post-Cata, they seem to really fucking despise any disconnected zones, so I imagine there's either a tunnel from Silvermoon into it, or a teleport, or something.

    Everything is really pretty seamless in TWW. The longest route is having to go from Dornogal into Hallowfall, and that's really one airlock and two turns.
    It's underneath ZA.

  11. #106891
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    I mean they could have written one? I don't care much about faction balance, but there are a few races that could have gotten the dh class too.
    I think having the insignificant imbalance is better than trying to shoehorn in irrelevant races tbh.

    If the Nightborne had anything to do with the void then I could see it, but they don’t.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

  12. #106892
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    It's underneath ZA.
    So probably about as long to get there if they don't just give an outright port anyway.

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    The only elf race discussion that is in any way relevant to this thread is Harranir. Everything else, take it to existing threads and gloat/despair there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    I was hoping for a little bit of Northern Lordaeron (west of ghostlands), don't really dig the idea of a voidstorm zone either, feels too much like ka'resh. Combining Eversong/Ghostlands/Probably Quel'danas into a single zone feels off too. Not excited for the Underground zone coming out of the War Within either.

    No new customization options feels sad too.

    DH spec is cool, new Quel'thalas is beautiful as well! Liadrin's new ingame model looks really nice, and I'm very glad Lor'themar is not dead. The prey system/world tiers thing is sick as well. Broadly I'm optimistic. Somewhat mixed, but I like what I'm seeing so far.
    Voidstorm looks cool. My concern is....really? Voidstorm? Pretty sure even ChatGPT could have come up with a less generic name for a void themed zone.
    And yes, Quel'Thalas being just one zone is certainly a choice.
    Not to be overly dramatic but it seems like the worst of two worlds. We don't get Plaguelands and stuff south of QT, but neither is it the size of a continent.
    I would say the Amani fans are the winners cause Zul'Aman is a full zone. But the way it is worded suggests that they aren't our allies in this war. Hope not, but making tham just cannon fodder feels like a waste.

  15. #106895
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    Again, it could still be a War Within feature that isn't coming in Midnight nor require a Midnight preorder, so it would make zero sense to put it in there if it was just part of some Ka'resh epilogue content, or the story content in 11.2.7.
    That's always a possibility, but I feel like there would have been some more pointers already than just that single spell. Maybe they've been properly hiding it, who knows.

  16. #106896
    Quote Originally Posted by milkmustache View Post
    The New Player Experience is a streamlined version of Dragonflight... not the The War Within, which is you know, the first expansion of the SAGA.

    What the hell is going on??
    Dragonflight is the proloque to WSS and they don't want to stretch TWW levelling from 10 to 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    Valeera is the new delve companion. People might actually start doing delves again now ...
    Looking forward to how an Assassin rogue will heal and tank for us . . .

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    South west of Windrunner Spire you can see some towers and stuff in the distance, I wonder if that means the area of northern lordaeron might be part of the Eversong zone? Maybe it's just so the stuff in the distance looks interesting and you can't actually go there. Either way, kinda cool.

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    I’m probably the only one who’s REALLY excited about Midnight after this reveal.

    I’m cool with the features, new zones and everything.

    What excited me the most is story. Man it looks REALLY promising. Like, shit is about to go DOWN. Can’t wait to find out about the secrets regarding Xalatath.


    Ahhhh!!! I’m so excited !!!!!!!

  20. #106900
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Looking forward to how an Assassin rogue will heal and tank for us . . .
    Throwing potions or something just like Brann and taunting and evading.

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