The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Skildar]

But this is assuming that fyrakk didn't have any idea about iridikron's plans

I'm convinced that Fyrakk bathing in shadowflame is why they opened up the way to Aberrus as Shadowflame is the energy powering the facility.

So it's all part of their plan, Fyrakk waking the ancient Djaradin and binding them to their oath, and letting the sunderedflame retaking Aberrus.

If anything I'm surprised by how Fyrakk was able to keep his head straight because he's shown as hungry for revenge and had many opportunities to deviate from the plan but even after bathing in shadowflame he stays in line and uses the djaradin and his minions as deterrent.

[Revamp Man]

I'm convinced that Fyrakk bathing in shadowflame is why they opened up the way to Aberrus as Shadowflame is the energy powering the facility.

So it's all part of their plan, Fyrakk waking the ancient Djaradin and binding them to their oath, and letting the sunderedflame retaking Aberrus.

If anything I'm surprised by how Fyrakk was able to keep his head straight because he's shown as hungry for revenge and had many opportunities to deviate from the plan but even after bathing in shadowflame he stays in line and uses the djaradin and his minions as deterrent.

Because he's not an idiot
He doesn't underestimate
He's cool with
1. Power up
2. Burn shit

[Woggmer]

I don't mind Nelves teaching Humans, to be druids. Druid form is Lion(I think that would be close to bear form) Wolf for *Cat*. Of course that is going along the all races do all classes road. I don't really agree with that road but.... I can't see Blizzard changing.

Technically even before they became Worgen, the Gilneans knew the way of druidism as an ancient practice where they called themselves Harvest-Witches. Even before they (the Gilneans) met with the Night Elves, Harvest-Witches knew how to transform into animals.

The reason why they aren't as wide spread to other human cultures outside of Gilneas and Kul'tiras was because of the growing worship of the Light and that it pushed out ideas of Shamanism and Druidism out of human society. Gilneas and Kul'tiras were stuck in their 'old ways' which is how they have druids.

So it is very possible for Humans to pick up Shamanism and Druidism again if they can touch back on those roots... I'm not so sure about ones like Dwarves and Gnomes, or Goblins... or even Draenei and Orcs (They came from another planet where the only thing close to Life/Nature were carnivorous vegetation, giant genesaur creatures, bloodthirsty podlings, half-plant orcs, and some...mind control pollen thing. That's gonna be hard to weave druidism to them.)

[Luck4]

Scarlet crusade is the pala trading post set. Another blow to the world revamp gang Sadge

The closer we get to the announcement, the more skeptical I become... =/

Now I think that, despite all the milestones, 11.0 isn't a big deal.

Sadly, the doomsayers were probably right.

[Xilurm]

Reckon there's gonna be a new PTR build this week?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Avaloren is the perfect way to introduce a 3rd playable faction. I hope this will happen to restore interest to the factions because we are going around in circles with the Horde and the Alliance who spend their time bickering and forgiving each other constantly.

The two factions each find different interests in Avaloren and their culture. Tensions are felt, we continue to "hear" each other but a cold war sets in. Discovering the secrets of Avaloren, its cultures and its technologies brings a new point of view on the Titans and challenges our past beliefs.

Now that a third faction comes into play, we will finally be able to have some serious fun. No more eternal linear wars. Make way for a new era, a new turning point in the history of WoW.

How will this work with battlegrounds? Would battlegrounds remain two-faction and be thematically-altered depending on the two factions chosen to fight based on the queue? What about new expansion zones? Wouldn't this increase the workload substantially for faction-based zone questlines? What about the dwindling population? Wouldn't this split a small playerbase?

[Xilurm]

Avaloren is the perfect way to introduce a 3rd playable faction. I hope this will happen to restore interest to the factions because we are going around in circles with the Horde and the Alliance who spend their time bickering and forgiving each other constantly.

The two factions each find different interests in Avaloren and their culture. Tensions are felt, we continue to "hear" each other but a cold war sets in. Discovering the secrets of Avaloren, its cultures and its technologies brings a new point of view on the Titans and challenges our past beliefs.

Now that a third faction comes into play, we will finally be able to have some serious fun. No more eternal linear wars. Make way for a new era, a new turning point in the history of WoW.

Why would they do something like this after repeatedly saying they want to bring down faction barriers? It makes no sense.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

We don't need a third faction. I don't think making faction balance worse is going to help. Really bad idea.

[Kiivar86]

A third faction would make things difficult given that you'd pretty much have to redo the whole world to accommodate them, at the minimum. And they have enough trouble with just two factions, a third won't make it any easier.

Also lol as if a third faction would make faction conflict any better. You can't have a resolution to faction conflicts because the factions have to continue.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I don't mind Nelves teaching Humans, to be druids. Druid form is Lion(I think that would be close to bear form) Wolf for *Cat*.

Any wolf forms should be off the table unless they are going to retcon the wolfheart novel and the curse of the worgen comic as they establish wolf form as it's own thing and one druids can't control without the scythe of elune which just turns them into worgen permanently.

[Bsirk]

The closer we get to the announcement, the more skeptical I become... =/

Now I think that, despite all the milestones, 11.0 isn't a big deal.

Sadly, the doomsayers were probably right.

I believe the opposite. I think with Quik saying that you'll be able to stream Blizzcon for free means something big is coming. This is the first time that has happened since they started Blizzcon. It's also the 10th expansion along with the 20 year anniversary of WoW. I choose to be optimistic. lol

[Well Done Steak]

I believe the opposite. I think with Quik saying that you'll be able to stream Blizzcon for free means something big is coming. This is the first time that has happened since they started Blizzcon. It's also the 10th expansion along with the 20 year anniversary of WoW. I choose to be optimistic. lol

You guys seriously need to get off this train, we're not getting a cata level world revamp....

It's way too much work for little pay off.

[Revamp Man]

The Harbinger shall raise the black empire
The Naga shall attack the elemental planes
Iridikron shall destroy the Titans marks upon this planet

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This has been making the rounds in my guild
https://imgur.com/gallery/nrp5hXY

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And no the heir the scarlet has can't be calias because they have a penis

[Nymrohd]

Moonkins have laughable customization in comparison to the other forms. It's only Kul'tirans and Zandalari that have special ones. The "old" druid races share the same model with different colours and some have different antlers.

I could see a lot of races getting generic ones like humans for example.

Honestly I just want a version of Astral Form that is more transparent like the new Shadowform or even better, Tyrande's 9.1 Night Warrior Skin as an Astral Form. Can you imagine a full body texture of that?

[Melorandor]

The Harbinger shall raise the black empire
The Naga shall attack the elemental planes
Iridikron shall destroy the Titans marks upon this planet

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This has been making the rounds in my guild
https://imgur.com/gallery/nrp5hXY

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And no the heir the scarlet has can't be calias because they have a penis

So, what is supposed to be continent/landmass in 11.0 or is it Great Seas?

[Revamp Man]

So, what is supposed to be continent/landmass in 11.0 or is it Great Seas?

No clue lol
Personally I don't really buy this but it's not the worst

[Nymrohd]

No clue lol
Personally I don't really buy this but it's not the worst

No 10.3 means that the pace of content release for DF collapses at the end. Imo the patch schedule is pretty much the good thing about DF and if it just fails at the second half, there goes any goodwill it build.

[Hitei]

This has been making the rounds in my guild
https://imgur.com/gallery/nrp5hXY

This reads more like a player made post than leak and there's some pretty suspect things.

For example, why would they have Pally charge in development but slated for 11.0? This entire expansion they've been actively modifying classes to the point that they added an entire spec, and fundamentally reworked gameplay for several others, etc. If they had a single ability they think paladins need sitting in development, they wouldn't earmark it for release a year from now, they'd put it in 10.2.

Fated raids would come in 10.2.5 if there was no 10.3 and they were going to do a fated season. .7 patches are small secondary patches, not season breakpoints.

The whole second section, "more talents", "8 dungeons", "1 raid" reads like a player attempting to pad information. They're guesses based on obvious and straightforward patterns, rather than actual information, because it isn't typical for leaks to take this very numeric approach. (imagine you have some dev friend and them going "yeah, here's the inside scoop, there's gonna be one raid at the start of the next expansion!" )

Leaks are typically isolated bits of highly specific information. "there are artifact weapons, including one using broken pieces from Frostmourne", "The first dungeon is an ogre cave where you rescue slaves", "the new class is called Evoker", "Azerite is the new system"

Because the information comes from a source and sources are gonna talk about things they're interested in and can't help but slip a bit about, not in points like "8 dungeons, 1 raid".

[Dracullus]

No 10.3 means that the pace of content release for DF collapses at the end. Imo the patch schedule is pretty much the good thing about DF and if it just fails at the second half, there goes any goodwill it build.

Of course not. If we will have patch every 2 months + season every 5-6 months, there is no "collapse". For casual/open world content, they can introduce new events, content, story in smaller patches - and they can focus on old world, not new island #1241. For Season 4 we could have fated raids, new M+ rotation. We still are missing content we usual see in X.1.5. I wrote in some previous post here how more or less I picture that even with usual November release.

About goodwill, people rightfully expect fast and big updates in first half expansion. For other part, even actual collapse (like MoP) doesn't hurt it's reputation if start is done right - I'm not telling they didn't screw up late MoP btw. At some point people consider current expac as "done" and focus on next one, catching up on old content or taking breaks.

[Raetary]

Any wolf forms should be off the table unless they are going to retcon the wolfheart novel and the curse of the worgen comic as they establish wolf form as it's own thing and one druids can't control without the scythe of elune which just turns them into worgen permanently.

It wouldn't be a wolf form, but rather a cat form that slightly resembles a wolf.
Worgen didn't get a wolf as their cat form either.

Either way, a lion would be more fitting.