The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Reive]

you mean the vitriol and hatred spewed? great engagement. really, toxicity at its core. No thank you. people like that can sod off

some of you really can't take some banter. yes, that's passion.

[Enrif]

It was relevant before the reveal, post the reveal we know they aren’t going to happen, high elfs aren’t even mentioned in any thing related to midnight.

The mega thread needs to be resealed and and the elfs rightfully re banished.

we saw high elves in the b-roll clips, one of the nps is Arathor, a high elf. And we barely know anything about the void elves either. Like we also know nothing about how the haranir work, or what is exactly going on with the forest trolls.

if you don't like to talk about high elves, there are enough other things to talk about. but playing offended because someone talks about thallassian elves in a expansion about thalassian elves, oh the humanity!

- - - Updated - - -

some of you really can't take some banter. yes, that's passion.

passion? we know we have a hatred and toxicity issue in the gaming culture. And that what you call passion, is not even veiled hatred

[Xilurm]

passion? we know we have a hatred and toxicity issue in the gaming culture. And that what you call passion, is not even veiled hatred

I see more hatred and vitriol from within my own faction. The amount of hate between factions is extremely miniscule, mostly because they don't really interact with each other.

[allegrian]

They weren't exiled, they defected. The Outland High Elves either became wardens & died or became Scryers, which joined with Silvermoon afterwards anyway.The book sets up a storyline about feeling estranged from his parents, and while he never actually chose to be part of the Alliance, he is currently struggling with where he belongs & is currently living in Silvermoon. Plus feeling torn between the Alliance & Horde actually gives the whole storyline a reason for Horde players to be doing it. Otherwise, why would they bother?

Hmm I wonder if they are setting up Arator as the leader of the future Neutral High Elf AR, or helps unlock paladins for void elves + HE customization for both elves.

[Enrif]

I see more hatred and vitriol from within my own faction. The amount of hate between factions is extremely miniscule, mostly because they don't really interact with each other.

hatred within one faction is stupid as well. I may not like mechagnomes, but i don't give shit to people who do like them. Or any other faction for that matter.

[Xilurm]

hatred within one faction is stupid as well. I may not like mechagnomes, but i don't give shit to people who do like them. Or any other faction for that matter.

That's just people being assholes, especially on the internet. Not the fault of the game at all and we shouldn't be taking away features from the game because that won't stop those people from being the way they are. It will never stop unless society is completely changed. It's like trying to ban games like GTA because someone thinks they are a bad influence. (which they 100% aren't)

[Jaggler]

some of you really can't take some banter. yes, that's passion.

Calling anything on these forums "vitriol and hatred" is... a bit excessive to say the least

Now to more important topics.

Anybody know whether i can have a private AND a Public neighbourhood?

I fear my Guild wants their neighbourhood to be Elwynn, but I really want to put my phallic housing object in Durotar

[Reive]

Calling anything on these forums "vitriol and hatred" is... a bit excessive to say the least

Now to more important topics.

Anybody know whether i can have a private AND a Public neighbourhood?

I fear my Guild wants their neighbourhood to be Elwynn, but I really want to put my phallic housing object in Durotar

you can have 1 house per faction

- - - Updated - - -

passion? we know we have a hatred and toxicity issue in the gaming culture. And that what you call passion, is not even veiled hatred

it's a game bro. the "hatred" is not real

[elbleuet]

They weren't exiled, they defected. The Outland High Elves either became wardens & died or became Scryers, which joined with Silvermoon afterwards anyway.The book sets up a storyline about feeling estranged from his parents, and while he never actually chose to be part of the Alliance, he is currently struggling with where he belongs & is currently living in Silvermoon. Plus feeling torn between the Alliance & Horde actually gives the whole storyline a reason for Horde players to be doing it. Otherwise, why would they bother?

Arator didn't choose to be Alliance because he is Alliance.

His parents are Alliance. He was raised by Vereesa his aunt.

Being loyal to Silvermoon isn't being loyal the Horde. See Vereesa's speech at Zul'Aman.

[Thinkpad]

Now that DHs have caught up in specs, the idea of 4th specs is back on the menu. They even said they're open to it..

Hell a tinker class is easily a 4 spec class. Rdps mdps, heal and tank. All have room in a tech fantasy class

They could import some ideas from sod...

I just hope that with 4th specs. They make it so each spec has an option to have 1 of 3 Hero specs.

Only reason druid don't right now is because everyone else has two.

But if all classes have 4 specs then there's no reason why we can't have 3 HS to choose from

[Graden]

The Horde already has trolls. Like, why is this even a debate? I'll never understand the petulant resistance to High Elves. Are people afraid it'll undermine the Horde's population for competitive gameplay or what's with the gatekeeping?

I'm not against it, I won't get mad if they make them playable.
But with the non-void and healthy skin & hair colors, the blue eyes, what's the difference? You can so easily RP as one. With a couple more extra customizations, it's a done deal.

[Aucald]

This raises the notion of faction-based Player HOAs in WoW, which is both hilarious and terrifying in equal measures.

[Cheezits]

This raises the notion of faction-based Player HOAs in WoW, which is both hilarious and terrifying in equal measures.

Wyrmrest Accord will 100% have one if not multiple Goblin HOAs.

[Ersula]

Arator didn't choose to be Alliance because he is Alliance.

His parents are Alliance. He was raised by Vereesa his aunt.

Being loyal to Silvermoon isn't being loyal the Horde. See Vereesa's speech at Zul'Aman.

So far every time a capital allowed its long-term residents join either faction it eventually resulted in the a city exploding.

Besides being an TBC Alliance NPC with the rest of the city he appeared in, he's never really been affiliated with the Alliance. I don't think the Alliance is Arator's priority. Plus, if Arator isn't neutral there's literally no reason for Horde players to be doing his Midnight campaign.

[Nymrohd]

I was just thinking about the many Horde races that wouldn't want an Orc or Belf house. I was a bit sad they didn't confirm roof colors for Belf and Human houses but I'm hoping it's a thing.

What even is a human house? The SW, Northrend, Gilnean and Kul Tiran styles are all Human styles.

[Enrif]

Plus, if Arator isn't neutral there's literally no reason for Horde players to be doing his Midnight campaign.

i guess there was no reason for alliance player to help in the defense of the sunwell in TBC, or helping Thrall in Cata, or helping the Horde in deposing Garrosh, or saving any horde character in legion, or fighting of G'Huun in Nazmir, or now helping the sunwell again.

can you get any new ideas besides your faction fetish?

[Ersula]

i guess there was no reason for alliance player to help in the defense of the sunwell in TBC, or helping Thrall in Cata, or helping the Horde in deposing Garrosh, or saving any horde character in legion, or fighting of G'Huun in Nazmir, or now helping the sunwell again.

can you get any new ideas besides your faction fetish?

This isn't about faction, this is about Arator. And those situations made sense when it was about defending the planet - Arator's midnight campaign is about him doing the historical Paladin pilgrimage of Silver Hand churches. There's got to be some reason for the Horde players to do that considering its a mandatory part of leveling. Seems if he's working with the Blood Knights he's experimenting with his faction bisexuality.

[allegrian]

This isn't about faction, this is about Arator. And those situations made sense when it was about defending the planet - Arator's midnight campaign is about him doing the historical Paladin pilgrimage of Silver Hand churches. There's got to be some reason for the Horde players to do that considering its a mandatory part of leveling. Seems if he's working with the Blood Knights he's experimenting with his faction bisexuality.

I don't think its about faction at all but about light/void. They never mentioned faction stuff in the TWW novel, midnight novel description or midnight reveal. They only mentioned that he loves his parents. He's a member of the silver hand wich is alliance adjacent, but he is neutral enough to have been a follower of the paladin playable character in Legion, like Liadrin.

About Liadrin... she fought Turalyon directly in BFA warfront, i wonder if they'll mention that.

[elbleuet]

So far every time a capital allowed its long-term residents join either faction it eventually resulted in the a city exploding.

Besides being an TBC Alliance NPC with the rest of the city he appeared in, he's never really been affiliated with the Alliance. I don't think the Alliance is Arator's priority. Plus, if Arator isn't neutral there's literally no reason for Horde players to be doing his Midnight campaign.

But that's what I said : he has no need to show his "affiliation" with the Alliance because he already is Alliance.

Horde players will surely do Turalyon's quests in Midnight and yet he's the commander of the allied forces and one of the main Alliance character so I don't see your point.

You can be neutral to the Horde and be Alliance in the same time (and vice versa) since ... wow was born.

Jaina, Alleria, Anduin, Turalyon... you did some quests for them and yet you're killed on sight when you enter in Boralus and Stormwind.

[Pheraz]

omg high elf houses in alliance neighbourhood. I could care less about silvermoon now xD (tali interview)