1. #11241
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Better get some diving equipment.
    Northern Kalimdor sunk?

  2. #11242
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Alexstrasza was making that forest grow without her OG Aspectral power looool
    Small pet peeve, but it's very jarring to me that they keep using "aspectral", a made-up word, instead of "aspectual". "Aspectral" sounds like it refers to a tangible object, or an area free of ghosts.
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  3. #11243
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    It's great news, Metzen should announce expac, Ion lead what's next panel.

    I hope Holly Longdale won't screw up this moment, she and John Hight were terrible on everything I saw from Blizzcons/reveals. I guess she's probably for Classic stuff, which can be interesting as well. Will they just move to Cata and call it a day?
    Ion has been taking the backseat a lot lately, letting other people get the spotlight. It's kind of nice of him, although I do miss having a "regular" that feels reliable for their announcements.

    Back in the day, you always had Morhaime + Metzen during the opening ceremony, then a few developers doing presentations on the panels. Usually the same 5-10 guys, which made them familiar to you.

    I'm sure it's a strategic move to let the father of Warcraft take the stage for this one, and I approve wholeheartedly with this choice.

    No one would be able to capture people's attention the same away as Metzen.

  4. #11244
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    and Sylvanas doesn't fit the description
    I mean, if you want to ignore the line from Il'gynoth where he describes the Val'kyr as "ravens" serving Sylvanas, sure.

    My point was not "it's totally Ravencrest" it was the opposite: nearly all of these lines are wholly vague and can be retroactively applied to whoever. At the time it could have been a half a dozen different characters doing who knows what because "Lord of Ravens" means anyone even vaguely associated with black birds (it's not like Khadgar is even a lord of ravens, he literally just turns into one, the same thing half the druids do) and the three you listed as fitting the bill are significantly less "Lord of Ravens" than Anzu, Ravencrest, Sylvanas or Jorach Ravenholdt; and "turn the key" is entirely meaningless, because it's effectively a metaphor that means "do anything important".

    People were very convinced that Turalyon was going evil and the "The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness." line was about him becoming regent, until a literally golden Pelagos wearing a golden, glowing crown took up the vacant "throne" of the Arbiter position. We still have no idea if it was even actually related, because who knows. Yrel could show up in 11.0 wearing a crown of pure light and calling herself the new High Exarch of the Army of the Light. Iridikron could show up in 10.3 in a new golden-scaled full on dragon form having made a pact with the void and light to box order out of controlling Azeroth and claiming to be the "true" new Earth aspect and steward of Azeroth.

    The old god lines are amusing for tinfoil speculation, but they provide almost no value in terms of actual predictive power. There are solely a retroactive pay-off sort of thing.

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    There is no world revamp, but there is Cosmic Legion.

    Either way, its still good for marketing so I am pretty happy about it even if its under worse circumstances than what it should have been.
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  6. #11246
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceveris View Post
    Metzen + BlizzCon = WORLD REVAMP YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    That's the spirit! I approve of this message.

  7. #11247
    Classic becomes the new main timeline while retail gets put in maint mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    Classic becomes the new main timeline while retail gets put in maint mode



    Troll or not. Dumb post is hitting critical mass.
    Last edited by Aeluron Lightsong; 2023-08-07 at 02:54 PM.
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  9. #11249
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post



    Troll or not. Dumb post is hitting critical mass.
    not a troll. it would be refreshing. retail right now is bloated with bad design choices and lore mismanagement.

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    To be fair, we don't know if it is lore mismanagement until the expansion is actually revealed to be Danuser's Cosmic Wild Ride.

    Until thats' the case there is still a slimmer of hope that Danuser can be restrained and Revamp can occur instead.

    I don't think this is the case, though. I think that Steve will continue his waste of time story that he cannot conclude for the life of him until management get involved down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    not a troll. it would be refreshing. retail right now is bloated with bad design choices and lore mismanagement.
    No it wouldn't be refreshing and you are presuming classic is just superior game. Its not.
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  12. #11252
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    No it wouldn't be refreshing and you are presuming classic is just superior game. Its not.
    Classic is a better put together game and an easier one to build on. It has a bunch of old school rpg mechanics that need to be removed tho. Retail has many things that are hard to walk back from

  13. #11253
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Even though I still disagree with your past stuff on Metzen...

    ...this makes me 1 VERY happy camper.
    ew Ybarra is verified. Yuck.

  14. #11254
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    not a troll. it would be refreshing. retail right now is bloated with bad design choices and lore mismanagement.
    Not gonna happen. Classic doesn't have as big a team as retail, and while they have added some additions to the game like the Sons of Hodir tabard. They're not gonna do something as big as change certain events in Cata or change the gameplay aspect.

    Classic is meant to be a look at the past, they're just gonna repeat the same beats as the original.

  15. #11255
    The absolute certainty that 11.0 is going to be a revamp is nearly identical to the absolute certainty floating around that 9.0 and 10.0 were going to be revamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    Classic is a better put together game and an easier one to build on.
    In what way?
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    To be fair, they either cancelled SoM 2 or they have a bigger announcement for Blizzcon.

    Either way, it has nothing to do with the Retail game and this is for Retail speculation and not Classic.
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  17. #11257
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    The absolute certainty that 11.0 is going to be a revamp is nearly identical to the absolute certainty floating around that 9.0 and 10.0 were going to be revamps.


    In what way?
    some examples:
    1) the world is kept relevant through levelling while on retail both are an afterthought
    2) there aren't 20 different iterations of the loot system while retail is still struggling with loot 20 years later
    3) original core concept (faction conflict) of the game is still alive and the lore hasn't been butchered yet. On retail they're still doubling down on shadowlands. Also, the vibe of the game is way different. It's harder to get attached to characters on retail because the lore sucks
    4) class design is simpler but still meaningful. retail is filled with modifiers and gimmick abilities

    could continue but i hope it's enough for you to understand me

  18. #11258
    Honestly the "boy king" may have got kicked back to the Scarlets, as they apparently have a new heir. And the Scarlets are always patsys to a greater threat/historically have been manipulated by the Nathrezim.

    Also: it would be a huge swerve if Blizzcon is Classic+ focused but I hope not.
    Last edited by Cheezits; 2023-08-07 at 03:41 PM.

  19. #11259
    They're gonna announce Cata Classic... and then it'll be one of two things.

    Either 10.3 and we'll get the next expansion announced on the 20th anniversary.

    OR we skip 10.3 and it is a revamp that will take much longer to get it off the ground.

    That's all I'm going expect out of it... or it could just be Blizzard trying to announce Arclight Rumble and be like "HEY REMEMBER THIS THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON?" And everyone and their mothers are going to collectively groan.

  20. #11260
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    They're gonna announce Cata Classic... and then it'll be one of two things.

    Either 10.3 and we'll get the next expansion announced on the 20th anniversary.

    OR we skip 10.3 and it is a revamp that will take much longer to get it off the ground.

    That's all I'm going expect out of it... or it could just be Blizzard trying to announce Arclight Rumble and be like "HEY REMEMBER THIS THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON?" And everyone and their mothers are going to collectively groan.
    I don't expect them to pull a diablo immortal at the blizzcon. that would be dumb af.

    Arclight rumble is going to be announced 100% but not without announcing anything for the main game.

    new expansion is for sure getting revealed at the blizzcon. we can only speculate on the theme/content.

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