The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Catastrophy349]

I think you're thinking of the August releases, which were the *following* August. Not the previous August. So yeah. Between September (fall) and August (Summer)
You people actually think they've transitioned from 2 year expansions to 1 year expansions? And also Visions of N'Zoth apparently never existed.
"We pushed out an unprecedented amount of DF content in 2023 so we could create the biggest content drought in WoW history! We did it, Joe"

I don't even know how to respond?

[Darkarath]

Also, didn't catch it until now, but the announcement for 10.1.7 release today has Vyranoth and Fyrakk in the background facing one another.

Good catch. Vyranoth will not be a boss in 10.2 but she might be the key to defeat Fyrakk, as it seems rather unlikely that we defeat him just by ourselves.

A little dissapointing, I have to say, if this is the path that they will follow. Vyranoth was betrayed by Alexstrasza, imprisoned for... 20.000 years? At the very least 10.000 years. We just murdered her sister Raszageth... and she is going to betray her brothers? The only thing that she has left.

Does not make a lot of sense to me.

[Scyth]

Also, didn't catch it until now, but the announcement for 10.1.7 release today has Vyranoth and Fyrakk in the background facing one another.

Where do you see it? All I see is lava or what looks like lava to me at least lol


Patch 10.1.7 releasing first week of September hopefully means we can get 10.2 sometime in October, instead of after Blizzcon.
I'm also on the DF will have a 10.3 train. No way we don't get a Red DF centred raid or something.
Then again they could end up shafting Alexstrasza completely.

[Woggmer]

Good catch. Vyranoth will not be a boss in 10.2 but she might be the key to defeat Fyrakk, as it seems rather unlikely that we defeat him just by ourselves.

A little dissapointing, I have to say, if this is the path that they will follow. Vyranoth was betrayed by Alexstrasza, imprisoned for... 20.000 years? At the very least 10.000 years. We just murdered her sister Raszageth... and she is going to betray her brothers? The only thing that she has left.

Does not make a lot of sense to me.

Yeah, I agree... While we don't know what happens her to her or what she'll do... Having her betray the Incarnates seems out of character, unless there's some details about it in the War of the Scales book that's coming that we don't know about.

But otherwise... yeah that's just inconsistent.

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Where do you see it? All I see is lava or what looks like lava to me at least lol


Patch 10.1.7 releasing first week of September hopefully means we can get 10.2 sometime in October, instead of after Blizzcon.
I'm also on the DF will have a 10.3 train. No way we don't get a Red DF centred raid or something.
Then again they could end up shafting Alexstrasza completely.

Actually that's been something that was on my mind for a while. A lot of people are either hoping that Tyr or Iridikron being the final bosses for DF, but either one could and couldn't work because they aren't as expanded as Alexstraza.

And then I thought, "What if Alexstraza gets corrupted and becomes the final boss?"

[Xilurm]

If they leave such details in the book then there should be some kind of recap quest ingame.

[Worldshaper]

The Launch Cycle

10.0.0 - Prologue - No particular colour.
10.0.2 - Main Patch - No particular colour.
10.0.5 - Epilogue - No particular colour.

The First Patch Cycle

10.0.7 - Prologue - Black flight build-up.
10.1.0 - Main Patch - Black flight finale + Blue flight quests.
10.1.5 - Epilogue - Bronze flight adventure.

The Second Patch Cycle

10.1.7 - Prologue - Green flight build-up.
10.2.0 - Main Patch - Green flight finale + Red flight quests.
10.2.5 - Epilogue - Sixth flight adventure.

The Third Patch Cycle

10.2.7 - Prologue...
10.3.0 - Main Patch...
10.3.5 - Epilogue...

I don't know... this could work if 10.3 is an exciting story about Void, Keepers, and a world revamp maybe. But it does seem a little unnecessary based on the story we have now. 10.1.7 has a Tyr quest chain so that while deal might be resolved by the time 10.2 is over.

[Foolicious]

Also, didn't catch it until now, but the announcement for 10.1.7 release today has Vyranoth and Fyrakk in the background facing one another.

But wouldn't this make more sense for 10.2? They are both absent from this patch. Maybe there is some hidden story quest, but i dont know... In one of the cinematics Vyranoth literally froze a tree before fyrakk burned it, so if thats not foreshadowing that they will at least start with the same goal in 10.2 then i don't know what is.

[Revamp Man]

Yeah, I agree... While we don't know what happens her to her or what she'll do... Having her betray the Incarnates seems out of character, unless there's some details about it in the War of the Scales book that's coming that we don't know about.

But otherwise... yeah that's just inconsistent.

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Actually that's been something that was on my mind for a while. A lot of people are either hoping that Tyr or Iridikron being the final bosses for DF, but either one could and couldn't work because they aren't as expanded as Alexstraza.

And then I thought, "What if Alexstraza gets corrupted and becomes the final boss?"

There's no way Alex makes it through as the aspect by the end of the expansion

[Xilurm]

Man it's gonna be funny if no one ends up getting corrupted and the good guys stay good and we fight the bad guys cuz they're bad.

You know, just like in every single other expansion ever.

[Lady Atia]

I understand people's expectations are keeping low, but if 10.2 is the last patch and there's no more major patches for the rest of the expansion, I think it'd loose a lot of the goodwill blizzard are trying to keep up throughout this expansion with the patch cadence.

They want people to say hey, the next expac looks massive. Dragonflights patch cadence was better than its ever been, it's time to come back.

But 10.2. wouldn't be the last patch, it would be the last new raid. There still would be 10.2.5, 10.2.7 aswell as 10.3./10.3.5 with a fated raid season and new story and outdoor content (something they said they kinda forgot with Shadowlands last season).

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Where do you see it? All I see is lava or what looks like lava to me at least lol


Patch 10.1.7 releasing first week of September hopefully means we can get 10.2 sometime in October, instead of after Blizzcon.
I'm also on the DF will have a 10.3 train. No way we don't get a Red DF centred raid or something.
Then again they could end up shafting Alexstrasza completely.

Alexstrasza and the red would get their spotlight alongside the green flight in 10.2. - they are the protectors of life afterall, so they too fit the dream setting. Alextrasza even said in the cinematic that they would defend the world tree together, so that's where her story will take her.

[Worldshaper]

Man it's gonna be funny if no one ends up getting corrupted and the good guys stay good and we fight the bad guys cuz they're bad.

You know, just like in every single other expansion ever.

*Laughs in Anduin Wrynn, Deathwing, Garrosh, Medivh, Grommash, the Lich King, Sylvanas, Sargeras, Xavius, Azshara, etc.*

[Raetary]

There's no way Alex makes it through as the aspect by the end of the expansion

She'll live by the simple fact that there is flat out nobody else that could replace her.

[Black Rider]

This year roadmap shows only to 10.2
Will we have 10.3?
Or Blizz just switched to 2 major patch models

[Revamp Man]

She'll live by the simple fact that there is flat out nobody else that could replace her.

The dracthyr Emberthal
Aspect doesn't need to be a dragon
Heck wrathion could be made the lifebinder

[Lady Atia]

This year roadmap shows only to 10.2
Will we have 10.3?
Or Blizz just switched to 2 major patch models

Again, a fated raid season with new outdoor stuff + new mythic plus dungeons + new pvp season would still be a major patch.

[Scyth]

Alexstrasza and the red would get their spotlight alongside the green flight in 10.2. - they are the protectors of life afterall, so they too fit the dream setting. Alextrasza even said in the cinematic that they would defend the world tree together, so that's where her story will take her.

It wouldn't feel out of place for her to be there but I personally would prefer a story centred around her and the Reds only, similar to what the Black and Blue got.
I think she will be present in 10.2 but I don't think that would be it in regards to her story. Or rather hope it's not.

It took me a bit to see it, but in the WoW release date announcement tweet for 10.1.7, on the sides of the grey stuff showcasing the features, you see Fyrakk's profile shot on the right, and Vyranoths profile shot on the left.

Ahh it was in the grey area, I was looking around it. Cheers!
I also see this as meaning the 2 of them will be attacking as a party. Could be either tbh

Actually that's been something that was on my mind for a while. A lot of people are either hoping that Tyr or Iridikron being the final bosses for DF, but either one could and couldn't work because they aren't as expanded as Alexstraza.

And then I thought, "What if Alexstraza gets corrupted and becomes the final boss?"

Really hope not, no more corrupted Aspects please

[Darkarath]

Again, a fated raid season with new outdoor stuff + new mythic plus dungeons + new pvp season would still be a major patch.

What? NO. In no way that would be a major patch.

[Raetary]

The dracthyr Emberthal
Aspect doesn't need to be a dragon
Heck wrathion could be made the lifebinder

The Dracthyrs whole thing is that they distance themselves from the rule of the Dragons.
Making Emberthal an Aspect, an Aspect of a flight she has absolutely no connection to, defeats their whole purpose.

And Wrathion as the Lifebinder is Janitor lvl of ridiculousness.

[Hitei]

This year roadmap shows only to 10.2
Will we have 10.3?
Or Blizz just switched to 2 major patch models

It's a roadmap for this year. Even if there was a 10.3, given that 10.2 is going to be mid fall, 10.3 wouldn't be until like April/May of next year.

[Nymrohd]

And Wrathion as the Lifebinder is Janitor lvl of ridiculousness.

Wrathion as Lifebinder sounds like some crazy slashfic that ends in male pregnancy.