The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Darkarath]

At this moment I am more interested to know what 10.2 would bring than 11.0.

I feel that it is going to be such an important patch for the game. Whatever they do with it will give us many clues about the next expansion in many ways.

[Cheezits]

At this moment I am more interested to know what 10.2 would bring than 11.0.

I feel that it is going to be such an important patch for the game. Whatever they do with it will give us many clues about the next expansion in many ways.

I think it will be fairly self-contained (tree gets saved, Fyrakk dies). What I'm more interested in is whether or not it will be the last major patch.

[Reive]

i assume it's going to be a pretty big patch (by .2 standards) if they're going to announce it at the gamescom

[micwini]

I think they will mention it IF its the final patch when they announce it. Just like they did with 9.2.

[Cheezits]

i assume it's going to be a pretty big patch (by .2 standards) if they're going to announce it at the gamescom

Wasn't the last patch announced at Gamescom the Argus patch? Makes me hope it's similar in size.

[micwini]

So someone posted the map on reddit I mentioned a while ago


On this map there is another island west of waking shores. Could this be another patch zone, 10.3 location or maybe cut content?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Wasn't the last patch announced at Gamescom the Argus patch? Makes me hope it's similar in size.

No I don't believe Argus was revealed at Gamescom. The expansion announcement yes.

[Darkarath]

I think it will be fairly self-contained (tree gets saved, Fyrakk dies). What I'm more interested in is whether or not it will be the last major patch.

Yeah, sadly, Fyrakk would most likely die. I really enjoy the guy. Hopefully he would go like a boss making some real damage or killing someone.

I really hope that we have a proper 10.3. Last time that we got one was in Legion (8.3 was very meh).

i assume it's going to be a pretty big patch (by .2 standards) if they're going to announce it at the gamescom

I believe that it is going to be the biggest patch in WoW's history (no kidding). Maybe not in terms of landmass, as 7.3 or 8.2 would probably win there, but in terms of content added and impact for the game.

[Cheezits]

No I don't believe Argus was revealed at Gamescom. The expansion announcement yes.

It was technically revealed at Blizzcon, but I thought that Argus got a full reveal/breakdown at a convention? Maybe not Gamescom

[Reive]

I believe that it is going to be the biggest patch in WoW's history (no kidding). Maybe not in terms of landmass, as 7.3 or 8.2 would probably win there, but in terms of content added and impact for the game.

I hope you're right. dragonflight needs a banger second half. patch 10.1 was a bit weak

[Aeluron Lightsong]

It was technically revealed at Blizzcon, but I thought that Argus got a full reveal at a convention? Maybe not Gamescom

It was teased when they were talking about Tomb of Sargeras. Like they implied Argus would be next(At least I think so) in terms of a major content patch.


edit: I know I just remember them having a Blizzcon panel and they just switched the screen to an image of Argus that we all know of and the crowd cheering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66j8_GLXD-A

[Cheezits]

It was teased when they were talking about Tomb of Sargeras. Like they implied Argus would be next(At least I think so) in terms of a major content patch.


edit: I know I just remember them having a Blizzcon panel and they just switched the screen to an image of Argus that we all know of and the crowd cheering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66j8_GLXD-A

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_7.3.0

I was thinking of the release date reveal, and I believe there was also an official patch notes dump. It did appear at Gamescom 2017.

[Sondrelk]

I think it will be fairly self-contained (tree gets saved, Fyrakk dies). What I'm more interested in is whether or not it will be the last major patch.

Unless 10.2 is especially meaty and narratively cramped i cannot see the expansion ending with 10.2. Even plotlines carrying over into future expansions need some kind of conclusion.
Most importantly we have the Tyr storyline, which needs a hefty finale if we are to assume it was more than a distraction the developers forgot about. Having him show up only to leave immediately would be a narrative stillbirth on par with the 8.2.5 Sylvanas ragequit.

I think we will have to see how hefty 10.2 is though. I doubt we are looking at two really big patches. More likely we get one really big, and one closer to 10.1 in scale.
If I were to guess I would say 10.2 will be fairly comprehensive, and 10.3 will be more of a narrative heavy patch propped up by a steady stream of features making use of the already existing expansion content.

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I hope you're right. dragonflight needs a banger second half. patch 10.1 was a bit weak

I feel 10.1 is less so a weak patch, and more so an indication of how much we expect from patches now.
It wasn't that many expansions ago that 10.1 was just a couple questlines to prop up the raid alongside some world events. The fact that we got not just a zone, but an entirely new one is kinda amazing.
Even SL was primarily world events in the Maw + a tiny zone bolted to it.

[huth]

So someone posted the map on reddit I mentioned a while ago

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On this map there is another island west of waking shores. Could this be another patch zone, 10.3 location or maybe cut content?

Or the map is just based on an older concept. The island wouldn't be particularly big anyway.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Every major content patch should be meaty, regardless if the expansion is only just starting or not. If it takes a bit longer I understand.

I feel 10.1 is less so a weak patch, and more so an indication of how much we expect from patches now.

It was better then 9.1 but thats also cause it was a new area thematically to.

[Murlocos]

Historically, .2 patches have tended to be larger than their respective .1, though I suppose we're in uncharted territory at the moment. Wrath's the only big exception I can think of where 3.2 definitely felt slimmer compared to 3.1. That and TBC but we're getting into ancient history at this point.

[Kiivar86]

Speaking of Fyrakk, I saw a comment elsewhere asking about this and I realized I didn't know.

What is he doing with the metals being made at his camps? Far as I can tell there's nothing saying it, just that he's got some sort of mysterious project.

The comment I saw wondered if maybe we're looking at a Deathwing 2.0 with him getting plating made out of those ingots.

So yeah, is there anything I missed? I'm very curious about that now.

[Cheezits]

The comment I saw wondered if maybe we're looking at a Deathwing 2.0 with him getting plating made out of those ingots.

So yeah, is there anything I missed? I'm very curious about that now.

It hasn't been explained. I hope it's a giant weapon to subvert the Deathwing v2 allegations.

[Hitei]

It was better then 9.1 but thats also cause it was a new area thematically to.

I think the point was more that it was better (at least in terms of outright new content) than basically every X.1 patch in the game's history. It's just that we expect so much from a patch these days that expectations are stacked against any release.

Ignoring raid tier releases:

2.1 was a some new dailies for existing daily hubs and a new arena.
3.1 was a new daily hub in an existing zone.
4.1 was two heroic revamps of old dungeons
5.1 was a new daily hub in an existing zone and brawler's guild
We don't talk about 6.1
7.1 was a megadungeon, a mini-raid and the continuation of a campaign
8.1 was a warfront, the continuation of a campaign, assaults and heritage armor quests
9.1 was a megadungeon, a new region for an existing zone and the continuation of a campaign

10.1 was an entirely new zone, assaults, the continuation of a campaign

It's not really weak at all, it's probably the first or second strongest X.1 patch we've ever had, especially when you factor in that during its "segment" of the expansion (10.0.5, 10.0.7, 10.1.5 and 10.1.7), we also got: new daily hub in an existing region, Zskera vaults, new class combinations, trading post, a megadungeon, four heritage armor quests, two other sets of open world assault-y events (dreamsurges and time rifts), and like three or four different updates to campaigns.

I think pretty objectively Dragonflight has had more content pre X.2 than any other expansion to date. People are just so used to getting patch content at this point that they're able to take all that as "it didn't even add that much" and will unironically convince themselves that some earlier expansion that only added 20 dailies, or a single megadungeon prior to X.2 was somehow a better amount of content output.

[ohwell]

Oml he still thinks there are multiple Legions due to Azewrath existing...

This mf has NOT READ ILLIDAN AHHH

Nowhere in Azewrath does it mention Sargeras or any of the demon generals remaining there that I saw as well. It happened during WotA and it's possible that only our version has a world soul which mean he would have left it upon figuring it out. The Legion has literally been to 2 Draenors that had different fates so why can't he understand it's possible the same happened in the case of Azewrath...