The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

Build is out. Finally.

[Cheezits]

https://xcancel.com/Portergauge/stat...653661757550#m

Garrosh quest completely rewritten- now you go to TBC Nagrand to hear about Garrosh from the Outland Maghar.

What's all this?

Char Customization Options
Body
Claw Armor - New 01 (New)
Claw Armor - New 02 (New)
Claw Armor - New 03 (New)
Claw Armor - None (New)
Claws - New 01 (New)
Claws - New 02 (New)
Claws - New 03 (New)
Claws - None (New)
Helm - New 01 (New)
Helm - New 02 (New)
Helm - New 03 (New)
Helm - None (New)
Tail - New 00 (New)
Tail - New 01 (New)
Tail - New 02 (New)
Tail - New 03 (New)
Tail Armor - New 01 (New)
Tail Armor - New 02 (New)
Tail Armor - New 03 (New)
Tail Armor - None (New)

Head (Dragonriding)
Head - Dragon (New)
Head - None (New)
Head - Parrot (New)
Head - Wolf (New)

[Sondrelk]

https://xcancel.com/Portergauge/stat...653661757550#m

Garrosh quest completely rewritten- now you go to TBC Nagrand to hear about Garrosh from the Outland Maghar.

What's all this?

Char Customization Options
Body
Claw Armor - New 01 (New)
Claw Armor - New 02 (New)
Claw Armor - New 03 (New)
Claw Armor - None (New)
Claws - New 01 (New)
Claws - New 02 (New)
Claws - New 03 (New)
Claws - None (New)
Helm - New 01 (New)
Helm - New 02 (New)
Helm - New 03 (New)
Helm - None (New)
Tail - New 00 (New)
Tail - New 01 (New)
Tail - New 02 (New)
Tail - New 03 (New)
Tail Armor - New 01 (New)
Tail Armor - New 02 (New)
Tail Armor - New 03 (New)
Tail Armor - None (New)

Head (Dragonriding)
Head - Dragon (New)
Head - None (New)
Head - Parrot (New)
Head - Wolf (New)

Sounds to me like a customizable mount. The only thing that sticks out as weird is the Head (Dragon riding). But that could just be some internal thing that makes sense to the developers.

Maybe a mount based on the Chimaera boss in Harandar?

[bardicbass616]

Looks like new customization options for Dracthyr imo. The Head (Dragonriding) part is odd tho

[Sondrelk]

Looks like new customization options for Dracthyr imo. The Head (Dragonriding) part is odd tho

Could be. The customizable head stuff doesn't make sense to me though. The names for the armour options have had a very distinct theme, and I don't think Head (Parrot) really fits it. But maybe it's just a placeholder name in that case.

[Cheezits]

Also, tail armor for Dracthyr is cool, but that would be entirely new wouldn't it?

[Count Zero]

Not being excited about feature sets or expansion themes/vibes has never been a problem for me, as I'm usually more anticipating the experience I'll have - which has been fun enough to keep me coming back for decades (well, I started mid bc, I'm personally just under plural decades).

But I'm not liking the direction Blizz is going in as a whole with Midnight. The addon/combat changes, the hearthsteel currency* - the lack of ability to trust the things they are saying because we can't even be sure they know what they're saying (Ion admitted their messaging was scattered and incoherent; they said they would start light with the addon changes, then on the first go they went beyond where they said they wanted to end up; so was that an internal miscommunication or an external one? which is worse, inability to communicate with their own teams who are making their products or inability to communicate with their customers they're asking to buy their products?)

*I have no problem with microtransactions, I've bought a couple shop items; but the specific currency is inherently problematic. eg, you want an item that costs 110 hearthsteel but it only comes in quantities of 100. I know we don't know prices/etc yet, and I will gladly and loudly say I was wrong; but Ion's justification of "oh we want you to be able to buy a dozen things in one transaction" doesn't even make sense. You can do that on the cash shop. Is there any customer who is thinking, "whew, converting from cash to hearthsteel is gonna make it easier to buy!"

I've gone from pre-ordering every xpac since I started playing (was in line for midnight releases of Wrath and Cata), to not being sure if I'll pre-order Midnight, to not being sure if I'll play Midnight at launch. At this point I imagine I'll play it eventually, but if my concerns aren't addressed then that is potentially off the table as well.

[bardicbass616]

Could be. The customizable head stuff doesn't make sense to me though. The names for the armour options have had a very distinct theme, and I don't think Head (Parrot) really fits it. But maybe it's just a placeholder name in that case.

Right, and there being no correlation (that I can think of) between the three animal heads makes it look like that may be the case

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

The Garrosh rewrite is exactly what I imagined any such revisit of his character to be, I'm pretty content with the new version. At least its' far better than the previous iteration which just came off as frankly bizarre.

[Cheezits]

The Garrosh rewrite is exactly what I imagined any such revisit of his character to be, I'm pretty content with the new version. At least its' far better than the previous iteration which just came off as frankly bizarre.

I hope they didn't make that other quest writer clean toilets for the rest of the pay period, because they definitely swapped them out.

[Sondrelk]

Also, tail armor for Dracthyr is cool, but that would be entirely new wouldn't it?

It would. And it would be nice to have more options.

Still, I have to admit that seeing more customization options for Dracthyr is a bit bittersweet. Because it's a constant reminder that Evokers are always at the mercy of developers to actually give new options that hopefully fit a variety of themes and armour tints. Rather than just endeavoring to actually let them use transmog normally.

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The Garrosh rewrite is exactly what I imagined any such revisit of his character to be, I'm pretty content with the new version. At least its' far better than the previous iteration which just came off as frankly bizarre.

How is it different exactly?

[milkmustache]

I'm pretty unsure as to what those customizations could be, but I'm leaning more towards Rostrum mount. The selections don't really indicate Dracthyr, which already has a lot of these available, which I would assume would make the "New 00" > "None" wrong.

Chimaerus type of mount does sound like a possibility with those head styles. Still waiting on that Panthera Rostrum mount that had a string datamined. Maybe add it to the "What the hell are the Nethersent??" pile.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

How is it different exactly?

I looked over everything and basically, it is much more meditative experience as you visit the Outland version of Nagrand in which there's a bit more of a nuanced take of why Garrosh ended up the way he did and also putting some blame on Thrall positioning someone who definitely shouldn't be put in that position. It still does keep the eye on the future with Gorgonna as leader of the Warsong Clan but I'm totally fine with that.

Its far far better than the previous iteration though to a degree I actually find it actually came off as actually interesting to engage with.

[Cheezits]

(There are questions on this considering the Off-World Refugee thing lol?)

That ended up being Eredar/Krokul stolen from other planets and taken to Voidstorm.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

That ended up being Eredar/Krokul stolen from other planets and taken to Voidstorm.

Ah, got'cha. Yeah, I missed that update about it being tied to the Voidstorm other world stuff.

[Viridiel]

Is this the customisable mount datamined way back (possibly the same height as a raptor), or was that found to be something else?

It definitely sounds like it's based off the chimaera boss.

[milkmustache]

Is this the customisable mount datamined way back (possibly the same height as a raptor), or was that found to be something else?

It definitely sounds like it's based off the chimaera boss.

Ooo. I forgot about that. I vaguely, vaguely remember it. I know we saw the bull one with the recent 6 month subscription bonus.

[Hitei]

Is this the customisable mount datamined way back (possibly the same height as a raptor), or was that found to be something else?

It definitely sounds like it's based off the chimaera boss.

Pretty sure the nearly the height of a raptor mounts ended up being the void/light new dragonhawks? I'd have to go double check the tables to be sure. Like I said originally, it was always a possibility that it was something completely new that just happened to be extremely close.

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What's all this?

Could be. The customizable head stuff doesn't make sense to me though. The names for the armour options have had a very distinct theme, and I don't think Head (Parrot) really fits it. But maybe it's just a placeholder name in that case.

It's almost certainly a mount. The names here probably aren't literal, but more general descriptive. So it's likely just something that can have both more beastial looking snouts and more bird looking snouts, like the velocidrake has dragon-y, bird-y and beast-y options.

Spoiler: 

[SaintBigfoot]

"Wild Elves" Well... that kinda wraps that on how Blizzard views the Haranir.

[Cheezits]

Very funny to me that the Garrosh questline got rehauled into being something good and respectful, but the questline with Nisha saying she wants to retire got thanos snapped.

https://xcancel.com/Portergauge/stat...105033961856#m

I still don't see the issue with that. Just make more Vulpera characters!