The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

Very funny to me that the Garrosh questline got rehauled into being something good and respectful, but the questline with Nisha saying she wants to retire got thanos snapped.

https://xcancel.com/Portergauge/stat...105033961856#m

I still don't see the issue with that. Just make more Vulpera characters!

I agree make more Vulpera characters, but I think it was kind of a nothing quest in the midst of a bunch of other nothing quests. No more retirement plots unless they're deserved plz

[SaintBigfoot]

That one might also be going through a rework, but that one they didn't think folks would dislike initially, compared to the otherone they saw as a mess even before it hit alpha.

[Kiivar86]

Man, I'm happy with that 600 mount reward.

[Cheezits]

I agree make more Vulpera characters, but I think it was kind of a nothing quest in the midst of a bunch of other nothing quests. No more retirement plots unless they're deserved plz

Yeah but it would be a very good impetus for a new roster of Vulpera if the old trio retired. Nisha retires properly, Kiro is an ambassador, Meera also seems to be retiring or at least cozycore 100% as she is a Housing friend. It's a great time for them to make new Vulpera that are more Hordecoded.

[Hearthfinder]

Founder's Point music, finally?

I assume that's one long track filled with sub-themes that will be played on various biomes where they fit? Sounds nice imo.

Like all modern WoW music it's quite orchestral and demands a fair bit of attention from the listener, and I guess it would've been nice to hear them pay more of an homage to the zone music of old which was more ambient and in the background.

Still nice, though.

Edit:

They really go all-in with the "welcome home"-vibes in this music, don't they? Sounds like a cross between a Christmas film directed by Tim Burton and the trailer music for BlizzCon.

Not bad, but very much steeped in that kind of thing so if it's not something you enjoy, it might end up feeling a bit overwhelming.

[Nymrohd]

Could be. The customizable head stuff doesn't make sense to me though. The names for the armour options have had a very distinct theme, and I don't think Head (Parrot) really fits it. But maybe it's just a placeholder name in that case.

Parrot is one of the beak customizations for moonkin. It very likely is a customization on how the snout of the mount looks.

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*I have no problem with microtransactions, I've bought a couple shop items; but the specific currency is inherently problematic. eg, you want an item that costs 110 hearthsteel but it only comes in quantities of 100. I know we don't know prices/etc yet, and I will gladly and loudly say I was wrong; but Ion's justification of "oh we want you to be able to buy a dozen things in one transaction" doesn't even make sense. You can do that on the cash shop. Is there any customer who is thinking, "whew, converting from cash to hearthsteel is gonna make it easier to buy!"

I think the EU has successfully litigated against microtransactions using the exact argument of bundles mismatching cost. If they do try this, they will get sued for it. That said, it absolutely is better to avoid having dozens of smaller transactions that require a payment provider. Those transactions have a cost (and that will be taken into account in pricing) and also exposes you to any issues with said payment provider (outages or other failure of service, slow service which will be problematic etc.)
Ideally, you should be able to make a test build of your house with Hearthsteel items, save that bundle of items, get a cost quote and then buy the exact amount of Hearthsteel. Ideally.

[SunspotAnims]

I think the EU has successfully litigated against microtransactions using the exact argument of bundles mismatching cost. If they do try this, they will get sued for it.

For what it's worth, they've already acknowledged this specifically:

Similarly, the costs of items are designed to align with Hearthsteel offer amounts in a player-friendly way. Buying Hearthsteel at the amount you want lets you purchase the items you want without requiring you to think about which packs should be added together to minimize leftovers.

People can insist that they're lying, but no one can say it hasn't been addressed already.

[Elronas16]

The new Blood Elf NPC voiceovers...

If these make it into the final game and they replace the TBC ones with this it's the final nail in the coffin to me. My most anticipated expansion turned into my worst nightmare.

[Reive]

If these make it into the final game and they replace the TBC ones

they will

/10chars

[Enrif]

new build, time to dig through the database to find fun stuff. I write as i explore


first - Rat and Threshadon loa mentioned!
[PH] Rat Loa Blessing
[PH] Threshadon Loa Blessing


the PVP Weapons are... Arator themed? Mabye more Vanguard of the Light, but that sword looks just like Arators, just in a different color
Galactic Gladiator's Sword


also some propper Amani themed stuff now too, and every zone has their own gear now (at least for weapons)
Harak's Skullcutter <- Zul'Aman
Lightblighted Sapdrinker <- Harrandar
Hydrafang Blade <- Quel'Thalas
Hardin's Backup Blade <- Voidstorm


Probably means nothing and just some random quest reward from someone.. but who would give a Kul'Tiran ring?
Kul'Tiran Signet Ring

Also for some quest we go back to Mechagon?
Unstable Mechagon Re-Localizatron
"Almost totally guaranteed to transport you safely. Caution: suitable for one-way travel only."

The last two could be just related to the Arcantina, thinking about it.


on the NPC side not that much. But some demons and Mannoroth? Perhaps again Arcantina related
Fel Ravager
Imp Lord
Mannoroth

The Arcantina is muddeling the water big time for items and NPCs....

hopefully the spell section is more reliable

well... that is a start
[DNT] Artificer Cosmetic Spell
There are many different "cosmetic spells" in the database, so don't think too much on it. But Artificer relates to draenei!

likely related to the Loa above and the loa mechanic of Zul'Aman
[DNT] Unlock - Capybara
[DNT] Unlock - Forest <- Forest Loa?
[DNT] Unlock - Mammoth
[DNT] Unlock - Pangolin
[DNT] Unlock - Rat
[DNT] Unlock - Shark <- Water related
[DNT] Unlock - Snapdragon <- Snapdragon? That is quite Naga related.
[DNT] Unlock - Spider
[DNT] Unlock - Threshadon <- Water related
i think it is interesting to see three loa that are related to water, and Ula-Tek is a serpent, and Naga are serpentine... hmm, perhaps we might get some Naga contend, but with the Trolls?

And just a bit later a huge amount of blessings based on the loas. Apperently the combination of two loas gives you certain buffs
Blessing: Packpeddle of War
Blessing: Patient Hunter
The loa are only mentioned by what they are the loa of: Hunt, Abundance, Victory, Fire, Sea, Subterfuge, Persistence, Growth, Children, Medicine, Travel, War, Forests, Hunger, Health...

Well, scratch that, here are the Loa!!
Blessings of Abundance - Dundun, Loa of Abundance - Rat Loa
Blessings of Children - Filo, Loa of Children - Capybara Loa
Blessings of Famine - Mot'amra, Loa of Famine - Snapdragon Loa
Blessings of Growth - Oe, Loa of Growth - Seed Loa?
Blessings of Medicine - Kulzi, Loa of Medicine - Pangolin Loa
Blessings of Peril - Pool, Loa of Peril - Shark Loa
Blessings of Subterfuge - Shadra, Loa of Subterfuge - Spider Loa, good to see her back
Blessings of the Depths - Pahk, Loa of the Depths - Threshadon Loa
Blessings of Travelers - Wo'la Mona, Loa of Travelers - Mammoth Loa

[Reive]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1986582121520242924

god, these are awful lol

why is everything in modern wow so lame?

[Darkarath]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1986582121520242924

god, these are awful lol

why is everything in modern wow so lame?

The guard voice is cool but the civilian one is just pathetic.

Please Blizzard change it ASAP like you thankfully did with the abomination that the Garrosh quest was.

[Reive]

The guard voice is cool but the civilian one is just pathetic.

Please Blizzard change it ASAP like you thankfully did with the abomination that the Garrosh quest was.

don't think they will

[Nymrohd]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1986582121520242924

god, these are awful lol

why is everything in modern wow so lame?

The male guard was OK. The first one should go back to making me coffee. The last one should be reminded she is a guard, not a cheerleader. And the voicelines are just a downgrade.

[Darkarath]

The male guard was OK. The first one should go back to making me coffee. The last one should be reminded she is a guard, not a cheerleader. And the voicelines are just a downgrade.

Oh I didn't listen to the female guard's voice.

Please delete Blizzard.

Come on, hire someone with just a regular voice, we don't want WoW characters to sound retarded.

[Merryck]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1986582121520242924

god, these are awful lol

why is everything in modern wow so lame?

The first one sounds like Robin from Teen Titans. Probably the same voice actor. Rest are fine though.

[Alanar]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1986582121520242924

god, these are awful lol

why is everything in modern wow so lame?

The old one sounded more natural in a way. These new ones, besides maybe the male guard sound bad.

[huth]

For what it's worth, they've already acknowledged this specifically:



People can insist that they're lying, but no one can say it hasn't been addressed already.

And they most likely aren't specificially because they know damn well it'll be trouble otherwise.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

In part, I think it's a reflection of where the identity of blood elves as a race has gone. They sound less firm and impassioned and more like generic (and prissy) elves because that's one of the shifts their portrayal has gone through with time. The original was a bit stilted and exaggerated, but it was in a way that had a more enjoyable and stronger personality.

[Xilurm]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1986582121520242924

god, these are awful lol

why is everything in modern wow so lame?

I always felt like the Blood Elf npc voices were the most unique in the game. They just sounded different, even to that of the Draenei which were added in the same expansion. It wasn't the accent or something like that, but more the quality of the voice itself. I don't know how to explain it, but it felt like playing a different game? If that makes sense.