The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Wazooty]

Unless the finale really steps it up in a way that probably won't happen the way they've been handling the scopes and stake of this whole story in such a confused fashion. Look at how they handled this

I'm hoping against hope that the major patches ramp the scale of this supposed ragnarok up massively. Damn near every ally and villian in the entirety of wows history has a stake in this fight. Dragons, titan keepers, Velen, Anduin, all the titan constructs we've met over the years, old gods, the burning legion. Damn near everyone and everything has led to this fight yet it feels so small and isolated.

[Joshuaj]

Afterall, she is also linked with the Naaru. "Upstart goddess" indeed.

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I'm hoping against hope that the major patches ramp the scale of this supposed ragnarok up massively. Damn near every ally and villian in the entirety of wows history has a stake in this fight. Dragons, titan keepers, all the titan constructs we've met over the years, old gods, the burning legion. Damn near everyone and everything has led to this fight yet it feels so small and isolated.

I wanna beat up Sargeras in TLT

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If I can fight Sargeras in TLT (P1 Avatar, P2 Full Powered Sargeras, P3 weakened Sargeras, similar to the Dimensius fight but with the Dark Titan instead), then that's more than enough reason for me to find TLT bigger than Midnight ngl.

[Telogrus]

I'm half expecting to find out that the old gods aren't actually pure void creatures, but some mix between void and azeroths energy, accidently created by the titans during their experiments on her/their attempts to purify her.

Between the curse of flesh being like a bastardized version of her free will aura, and ghuun being a literal titan old god experiment.

I dunno though. I agree wholeheartedly that there is way too much going on with the old gods for them to seem like pure void creatures. They represent this bastardization of life where the void seems more elemental. Way cooler and more ominous that the void has ever been.

Blizz will retcon the Old Gods into being the Void equivalent of Beledar and all the other Light crystals that are apparently out there

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I wonder how many times Blizzard has changed their mind behind the scenes on what Elune is?

[Joshuaj]

Probably not as much as y'all think...

[Telogrus]

Probably not as much as y'all think...

Bro, it’s beyond obvious at this point that Blizz has absolutely no conviction to their own lore and will change it on a dime. I’ve never seen a story with more blatant retcons

[milkmustache]

I also don't think Elune has changed much behind the scenes, I think she's just never been solidly defined (which is a good thing and why she's still a very intriguing aspect of the story).

[Darkarath]

As I said before, I totally agree with the sentiment that the (presumably) main enemy of Midnight, the Void, doesn't feel threatening at all.

In Legion, that feeling of constant threat was amazingly well done (except in Argus).

It certainly doesn't help that 12.1 might be a random Troll island (still think that it won't be 12.1, but the possibility exists), which I very much doubt that it will have the Void as the main threat (or the Light).

My hope to make the Void remotely threatening and not a joke invasion like the Iron Horde was, is that at the very least Alleria is killed, then Xal'athat gets what she wants from the Sunwell (which she does, I believe) and then launchs a full invasion at a global scale.

The thing is that I don't think that it would make much sense, as I guess that when Xal'athat gets what she needs from the Sunwell she would go straight to the Worldcore to get to Azeroth.

[Wazooty]

I want us to rally every force ever and still lose. I want xal to resurrect the old gods and the whole of the black empire. I don't want to "win" until TLT at which point the titans decide we weren't able to do our job (even after Algalon gave us a second chance) and try to prematurely retire us or something.

[Joshuaj]

I want us to rally every force ever and still lose. I want xal to resurrect the old gods and the whole of the black empire. I don't want to "win" until TLT at which point the titans decide we weren't able to do our job (even after Algalon gave us a second chance) and try to prematurely retire us or something.

You're gonna hate what happens after the Darkwell raid then...

[Wazooty]

You're gonna hate what happens after the Darkwell raid then...

Do tell...

[Joshuaj]

Do tell...

The Elves get together to heal the Darkwell, and a new well is made. The question remains, what well is it? Is it a Light and Shadow well? Is it a well of all the forces? Is it an Azeroth-based well with Azerite-like colors? Idk. What I do think is gonna occur is that this well will probably banish the Voidstorm from Azeroth permanently.

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Wait, hold on a minute here. I was trying to figure out what the problem with Hearthsteel was outside of the obvious, but...

Can you not earn Hearthsteel in game?

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Am I reading this right???

[Cheezits]

https://xcancel.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...793756721460#m

Weird Light VFX at Dalaran Crater on Alpha.

[milkmustache]

https://xcancel.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...793756721460#m

Weird Light VFX at Dalaran Crater on Alpha.

Toss it on the "something is happening in Lordaeron" pile for this expac.

[Joshuaj]

https://xcancel.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...793756721460#m

Weird Light VFX at Dalaran Crater on Alpha.

And it's light-based?

Maybe 12.2 ISN'T celestial body related, but is instead light related? Maybe it could be both, with some additions or updates to Northern EK and us actually going to the celestial bodies of Azeroth? Maybe we'll get Northern EK updates + The Arathi Empire's area? Maybe just Northern EK gets updated?

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Could also just be a bug (Which, honestly, is most likely the case).

[Daniri]

That's where the Plants vs Zombies game is at. Someone's just having an epic match.

[Joshuaj]

That's where the Plants vs Zombies game is at. Someone's just having an epic match.

Lmaooo shit maybe

[Telogrus]

The best way for Midnight to end would be for Xal to die or be imprisoned back in the Blade of the Black Empire, but not before destroying the Worldcore, allowing Iridikron to put his plans for TLT in motion.

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I also don't think Elune has changed much behind the scenes, I think she's just never been solidly defined (which is a good thing and why she's still a very intriguing aspect of the story).

One of the most bizarre things about Legion is how they try to beat it over your face that Elune is an important Light entity because she created a Prime Naaru, Xe’ra, only for Blizz to later hard confirm in Shadowlands that Elune is a part of the Life Pantheon

[Viridiel]

https://xcancel.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...793756721460#m

Weird Light VFX at Dalaran Crater on Alpha.

That location is coord 0,0 where world quests etc. default to when they bug out.


The object might be relevant (it feels familiar...), but I doubt the location is.

[Avikur]

Has anyone had the beta appear on their launcher yet? I know it's not live for another few days, I just wondered if Blizz had been working on the servers and flagged the accounts that will have access

[Nymrohd]

Has anyone had the beta appear on their launcher yet? I know it's not live for another few days, I just wondered if Blizz had been working on the servers and flagged the accounts that will have access

Maybe come Monday