The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

She has a PROPHECY written for her by bronze dragons

No, she doesn't. She got almost attacked because the bronze flight was aware of an undefined event she might or might not eventually do.

[The-Shan]

its almost like theyve been getting a lot of feedback theres too many women/not enough men or something Xd some real monkeys paw shit here

They probably did some focus groups that determined nobody wants to see women anymore, I guess

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No, she doesn't. She got almost attacked because the bronze flight was aware of an undefined "something" that she might or might not eventually do in a timeline.

It wasn't "a" timeline, she "will not be held accountable for what she might do, or fail to do, in the future". That to me is prophecy of significance. The Bronze Dragons see many timelines, but they also know the future of the current one pretty well, as has been proven on many occasions, and they don't just try to whack children over some troubling 'maybe' from another timeline. You are right that it is undefined, but its pretty clearly implied that it is in her future, not some alternate timeline.

[Hitei]

It wasn't "a" timeline, she "will not be held accountable for what she might do, or fail to do, in the future". That to me is prophecy of significance. The Bronze Dragons see many timelines, but they also know the future of the current one pretty well, as has been proven on many occasions, and they don't just try to whack children over some troubling 'maybe' from another timeline. You are right that it is undefined, but its pretty clearly implied that it is in her future, not some alternate timeline.

That isn't a prophecy, full stop, because it's not some sort of foretelling or prediction. It's an objective observation of possible events by time travelers. You might as well consider literally any event that ever happens "prohpecy" because the Bronze flight are aware of most of them. It wasn't "a prophecy" that Deathwing would survive the first shot from the Dragon Soul and come back re: Madness. Nozdormu just already knew that it was going to happen. Nozdormu becoming Murozond wasn't prophecy, it was just an already known future development.


That she might or might not do it immediately says that it is a timeline thing, because if it wasn't there would be no "might" do or failing to do it. She would have already done it from the perspective of the bronze flight. That failing to do it, or it being a "might" are possibilities mean that it is not a fixed event, it is something she does in some possbile futures (read: timelines) and not others.

they don't just try to whack children over some troubling 'maybe' from another timeline

They literally did though. That is exactly what we saw happen. They were going to attack her over an explicit 'maybe', and then were told not to.

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For all we know, this whole situation invovled a future where she was never adopted and went down some dark path and it went away the second she was.

[Cheezits]

its almost like theyve been getting a lot of feedback theres too many women/not enough men or something Xd some real monkeys paw shit here

I got a warning for saying they very likely replaced Salandria in this expansion with Arator because of that feedback.

[Hitei]

its almost like theyve been getting a lot of feedback theres too many women/not enough men or something Xd some real monkeys paw shit here

I got a warning for saying they very likely replaced Salandria in this expansion with Arator because of that feedback.

This is some real tinfoil hat nonsense. Salandria is an irrelevant nobody that people only acknowledge because of the above ancient, potentially not even amounting to anything orphan quest. Arator is the son of the Worldsoul Saga's main character and one of the central figures of the Light's forces. You guys put this out here like it was just "we have a quest about a naïve paladin" and they swapped her out for him, like there wasn't an entire novel about him being written in the background and a short story back before TWW launch where he was already being brought to the front.

[Reive]

its almost like theyve been getting a lot of feedback theres too many women/not enough men or something Xd some real monkeys paw shit here

Arator is a b**ch not a man. People wanted badass male characters to be relevant again and a(nduin 2.0)rator is not one of them.

The writers just forgot about salandria because they're too busy writing their fanfiction

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

Arator is a b**ch not a man. People wanted badass male characters to be relevant again and a(nduin 2.0)rator is not one of them.

The writers just forgot about salandria because they're too busy writing their fanfiction

Wasn’t Ash Houseware like that in Evil Dead 1 also or Leon Scott Kennedy from Resident Evil 2

So I assume Arator would go through the sissy phase quick and become a full badass Army of Darkness style.

[Reive]

Wasn’t Ash Houseware like that in Evil Dead 1 also or Leon Scott Kennedy from Resident Evil 2

So I assume Arator would go through the sissy phase quick and become a full badass Army of Darkness style.

Modern blizzard isn't able to write badass male characters

[SaintBigfoot]

I don't believe they care about the Dream, they're just obsessed with the world tree roots and Al'nhara/Azreoth and her Cradle (which just happens to be the Rift of Aln which spits out monsters to kill). The Nelves are still the ones focused on the Dream/Nightmare and the Trolls still are the race with the most Wild Gods/Loa.

Tauren just have had dogshit lore since forever, honestly. I really hope they bother to do something with them of note, considering "An'she and the Earth Mother don't exist and the Tauren are just stupid" has always been a scarily plausible theory, even since Vanilla.

God I hope not, they said we're getting more info on the Tauren belief system next expansion... I hope it's not its all just bullshit.

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In the beta, going around the Alliance Housing Zone.

The fuck you mean they're saying Founder's Point is older than Stormwind???

Now I want to check what lore they made for the Horde one.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

This is some real tinfoil hat nonsense. Salandria is an irrelevant nobody that people only acknowledge because of the above ancient, potentially not even amounting to anything orphan quest. Arator is the son of the Worldsoul Saga's main character and one of the central figures of the Light's forces. You guys put this out here like it was just "we have a quest about a naïve paladin" and they swapped her out for him, like there wasn't an entire novel about him being written in the background and a short story back before TWW launch where he was already being brought to the front.

To be fair Salandria is Liadrin's adopted daughter who is also a central figure to atleast Midnight though not the saga it self and she's shown up in both SL with the second BE heritage quest and in TWW with her mom.

Obviously she's not going to replace the guy who's getting a full but, but she's slightly above irrelevant nobody.

[Lahis]

the post about the voices is getting some traction on twitter

they might actually revist them

The monkey's paw is curling and they use AI to make more voice lines.

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One of my biggest problems with WoW Cosmology is that Void and Disorder are philosophically pretty much the same thing. Same goes for Light and Order

Void, Disorder and Life are the chaotic forces, Light, Order and Death are the orderly ones.

[Hearthfinder]

So has anybody actually seen the Haranir racials in-game yet? Would be cool to see the root teleportation in action.

[Jaggler]

Kith'ix fell in Zul'Aman and from the DF epilogue we know that there is a void trail that goes vold near zul'aman. You can easily tie that into the void plotline. Xalatath awakening the c'thrax or using it to corrupt the loa

[Nymrohd]

I just don't know if I can play the beta with no transmog on!

[Enrif]

because warglaives have their own unique animation set? We sure as fuck dont need less animation sets for weapons in this game Lmao have you seen how bad the night born "warglaive" looks with sword animations? especially when duel wielding

we had warglaives sinces TBC an no one cares that the animation is a bit jank. And with these new warglais, which are counted as swords, you will see people around that use them, with those janky animations. So there is no excuse.

Ideally, Blizzard would just implement the glaive animations on all races, but they don't want to put in that work, not that they can't.

[Reive]

undercooked expansion

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[Eeram]

undercooked expansion

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Why do you say its undercooked? ive been trying to keep away but now im curious with beta being out More eyes means more opinions an im curious about this one

[BaumanKing]

I'm basically the boss of 3 of the main characters lol (Liadrin, Lothraxion and Arator). They should really add some different dialogue for this, it's stupid that they take so much from the Paladin order hall but don't aknowledge the ones who played it.

In the upcoming prequel novel, Maxwell Tyrosus is the canonical leader of the Silver Hand. Not the player.

[Scyth]

Oh wow, someone in chat linked a Frostmourne ilvl 1 that has on on use effect that reads "The wielder of Frostmourne will become the new Lich King".
Weapon looks exactly like Frostmourne too. DK's finally getting to mog it?

[Holdodlig]

Oh wow, someone in chat linked a Frostmourne ilvl 1 that has on on use effect that reads "The wielder of Frostmourne will become the new Lich King".
Weapon looks exactly like Frostmourne too. DK's finally getting to mog it?

It's been here since 3.3.5, when there wasn't any real "Artifact" tiered item. You also had the Twin Blades of Azzinoth that you could merge into a glitchy small huntress glaive.