The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Raetary]

It's a 1:1 remake of the old Ulduar globe. Left is EK, right is Northrend, bottom is Kalimdor.

Asumming it actually portrays Azeroth and isn't just a random globe, the position and shape of the upper left landmass is completely off for it to be EK.

[Hitei]

Asumming it actually portrays Azeroth and isn't just a random globe, the position and shape of the upper left landmass is completely off for it to be EK.

[micwini]

Took some brain power to imagine what you are seeing. However, the shapes just don't match, except for Kalimdor + Teldrassil + Draenei islands. The EK "glove" so to say is also the same, but the main part is just completely different between the flat map and the globe.

[Ersula]

There is no different flow of anything. That's what you and others are not getting. Appealing to reality also does nothing to help these arguments. Not saying you're arguing this btw, just saying this has been argued before.

Because you're not presenting an actual argument: We're explaining to you that the people in the shadowlands experience the past, present & future in a linear progression: The present becomes the past & the future becomes the present. Then you're just saying "it's not like there's a pattern of time there regardless, not natural "beginning" nor "end", etc." except there clearly is. You're just making false statements.

In order for you to make these claims there would have to have an example of the pattern of time being experienced in a non-linear order: Which there isn't. They retain things from the past in their memories & have no knowledge of the future; just like us, the people living in linear time. With no evidence to the contrary, we have no reason to assume everything in Shadowlands AND the Twisting Nether is anything but Linear.

[Hitei]

Took some brain power to imagine what you are seeing. However, the shapes just don't match, except for Kalimdor + Teldrassil + Draenei islands. The EK "glove" so to say is also the same, but the main part is just completely different between the flat map and the globe.

What?

They're the exact same it's just stretched and redrawn.

[micwini]

What?

They're the exact same it's just stretched and redrawn.

This one clicks for me, thanks! Although I wonder what that spooky face is in the middle

[Revamp Man]

If we getcpirates there's got to be a Hook or Goonies reference

I can imagine treasure hunts, part of a map drops from a mob which gives an area, then another makes it smaller, ends in a rare and we get rewards depending on the map, blingtron would give 10k and treasures have weekly lockouts.

Use the current debuff stacks to keep from flying in certain areas and give us dynamic flight off the bat

If we get our own ship customization is limited and travel between zones is like 7.3 with pirate invasions possible but 11.1 the islands get land bridges

[Hitei]

This one clicks for me, thanks! Although I wonder what that spooky face is in the middle

Just supposed to be a polar ice cap I think.

[huth]

Because they don't experience past, present, nor future in the Shadowlands. Sure, souls have memories of when they were alive, but that's really it.

At this point you're just lying so transparently, you might as well just be glass.

[Ersula]

Because they don't experience past, present, nor future in the Shadowlands. Sure, souls have memories of when they were alive, but that's really it.

Like the examples already I gave you, they do.

They reference past events after they died constantly. The people in Oribos talk about how it used to be a bustling hub but now it isn't. The Valkyr reference the lack of incoming souls in direct reference to the past, that they then show the player a vision of. The Wild Hunt talk about having to battle the Drust for generations. Draka & Vashj reference being sent to fight the Legion as Necrolords. Souls in the maw just flat out say "I've been here a long time." These are all events that require linear time for a point of reference.

Took some brain power to imagine what you are seeing. However, the shapes just don't match, except for Kalimdor + Teldrassil + Draenei islands. The EK "glove" so to say is also the same, but the main part is just completely different between the flat map and the globe.

The shape & content of any globes in the game are pretty irrelevant now that its established Titan Technology can completely hide entire landmasses, as they did with the Dragon Isles.

[Revamp Man]

Just supposed to be a polar ice cap I think.

I am reminded of pandaria because it looks like the mists

[Lorgar Aurelian]

At this point you're just lying so transparently, you might as well just be glass.

It’s got to be trolling.

[Ersula]

All of this is just how people in the Shadowlands perceive things.

Its also how people not in the Shadowlands perceive things: Linearly, in time.

Almost like its exactly the same.

And you have nothing to back up that you're proposing the contrary.

I was super excited that what you're describing might actually be true when Shadowlands started: That not only might the rate of time be different in the Shadowlands, but they might, in fact be traveling through time in the opposite direction, causing the following expansion to be another AU that takes players to Azeroth's distant past: But all those theories were debunked by Calia moseying to & from Oribos at her own leisure & then the developers doing a time skip after Shadowlands that had nothing to do with the nature of the shadowlands itself. Oh well.

[Vakir]

Guys, it's abundantly obvious from the timing of their arrival, general pattern of speech, complete lack of media comprehension, obsession with power scaling, and being the only person on the planet to be that excited about cosmic stuff/Zereths that this is the same person as Jasontheking/Argus the Unmaker/The First Ones.

It's a fool's errand. Don't bother.

Back to just eyeballing news if it's ever worth coming back.

[Catastrophy349]

You'll have PLENTY to talk about next week

[Cheezits]

This one clicks for me, thanks! Although I wonder what that spooky face is in the middle

Looks like White Diamond. Must be Elune.

[Dracullus]

They just announced LFD and quest helper for WoTLK. Do you think it could come for Classic Era as well? Maybe this is 1.15 patch?

[micwini]

They just announced LFD and quest helper for WoTLK. Do you think it could come for Classic Era as well? Maybe this is 1.15 patch?

They said in the same interview that there is a new season coming for classic (not SoM2.0) so it's probably that. Don't think they are adding questhelper to Era, nor would it warrant a patchnumber increase.

[Skildar]

Better this than to parrot myself for the 50th time

Honestly I'm resorting to reporting each post in which you troll. You taunt people any way you can, you're an unbearable distraction to this thread...

[Aucald]

Let's pivot away from discussing past expansion lore from Shadowlands and other past expansions and refocus the discussion on upcoming 10.X patches and/or future expansion themes and gameplay elements.