The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

There are a lot of unfinished model files of Horde and Alliance themed building chunks, like walls, stairs, turrets and flightmaster stations. A lot of them had the label "Frontier".

I think they could be building blocks for new Alliance and Horde settlements in a revamp/rehaul, or it could be something used in a housing settlement.

Also the night elf and blood elf boats from DF launch still haven't been used, I believe.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

There are a lot of unfinished model files of Horde and Alliance themed building chunks, like walls, stairs, turrets and flightmaster stations. A lot of them had the label "Frontier".

I think they could be building blocks for new Alliance and Horde settlements in a revamp/rehaul, or it could be something used in a housing settlement.

Also the night elf and blood elf boats from DF launch still haven't been used, I believe.

True ish the factions are seemingly absent for the time being.

10.2 discussion wise, I actually like the idea of Fyrakk's ingot being relevant in 10.2 so we didn't just have him going over the Dragon Isles for no reason.

[Sondrelk]

True ish the factions are seemingly absent for the time being.

10.2 discussion wise, I actually like the idea of Fyrakk's ingot being relevant in 10.2 so we didn't just have him going over the Dragon Isles for no reason.

Well we know that Igira is still around, and the Shadow flame and Ingots are definite plot points. Coupled with the druids of flame I wonder if the plot of 10.2 might be partially centered around somehow making the Emerald Dream fire themed.

[Marlamin]

There are a lot of unfinished model files of Horde and Alliance themed building chunks, like walls, stairs, turrets and flightmaster stations. A lot of them had the label "Frontier".

I think they could be building blocks for new Alliance and Horde settlements in a revamp/rehaul, or it could be something used in a housing settlement.

Also the night elf and blood elf boats from DF launch still haven't been used, I believe.

Where did "Frontier" come from?

[Cheezits]

Where did "Frontier" come from?

I thought it had something to do with those files? Here's where I got it from.

https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/15...719411712?s=46

Reminds me that the revamped inn model was never used in DF.

More of the "building chunks" I was talking about.

https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/15...854432768?s=46

[Marlamin]

I thought it had something to do with those files? Here's where I got it from.

https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/15...719411712?s=46

Reminds me that the revamped inn model was never used in DF.

More of the "building chunks" I was talking about.

https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/15...854432768?s=46

Cool, missed out on the group name having Frontier in it, interesting!

[Fahrad Wagner]

"Frontier" hm??

Could be backside related. A frontier to a new land?

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Of course we don't know, but it would be cool ngl

Yep, it has been one of the main theories since the beginning: if we go to the other side of Azeroth, it's gonna be a "new world" kind of adventure. We did get the diplomat outfit which would fit very well into that. If both the Horde and Alliance are establishing footholds there, it would make sense to create new basic assets for the core races. The idea of a new frontier ties into that very well

[Worldshaper]

Sounds like a code word for a revamp, tbh. As in, the border between two eras of Azeroth.

But it could also be literal and indicate that we'll settle somewhere new, perhaps as a result of the old world being taken over by Azshara's forces, or simply because we're exploring.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Sounds like a code word for a revamp, tbh. As in, the border between two eras of Azeroth.

But it could also be literal and indicate that we'll settle somewhere new, perhaps as a result of the old world being taken over by Azshara's forces, or simply because we're exploring.

It could be a code name indeed, that would be cool!

[Kiivar86]

Sounds like a code word for a revamp, tbh. As in, the border between two eras of Azeroth.

I get that you're entirely on the revamp train and all but that's a real stretch there, Worldshaper. I mean I guess it could go that way but exceedingly unlikely. Frontier wouldn't usually be used to refer to something like that anyway.

[KainneAbsolute]

If there is another continent and a new civilization, I wonder if they have a different perspective of the Titans and the Cosmic forces.

Dragonflight seems to be preparing us to break our beliefs about the Titans and try to think differently. Don't succumb to despair like Sargeras or the Primals, but find another way. Maybe Nozdormu finds out that becoming Murozond is a necessary evil.

[Revamp Man]

I get the druids of the flame can just be fyrakk focused
But hear me out:

Fyrakk is possibly the strongest being in terms of fire power now and the druids of the flame were chill in the firelands loving some ragnaros power.

Currently the new firelord as we are told in a BfA item is a ragnaros supporter and looking to bring him back and possibly shadowflame is that answer

[Aeluron Lightsong]

If there is another continent and a new civilization, I wonder if they have a different perspective of the Titans and the Cosmic forces.

Dragonflight seems to be preparing us to break our beliefs about the Titans and try to think differently. Don't succumb to despair like Sargeras or the Primals, but find another way. Maybe Nozdormu finds out that becoming Murozond is a necessary evil.

Until they say otherwise my guess on Murozond is the Titans ideal timeline(Not Ulderoth) has Nozdormu being Murozond and what he does is good for Titans(Perhaps not good for the aspects and such and well short term negative for Azeroth). I.E. Murozond is an acceptable casuality to the Titans. Not a fan of the "Titans are shady" arc but what I just said is believable.

[Kiivar86]

Tbf here, Frontier does have separate meanings. One definition has Frontier as a thing which separates 2 countries/continents (This could be linked to the EK and Kalimdor AKA the Old World), and the other definition equates to an unknown region beyond our borders (This could be linked with the backside of Azeroth). Regardless, assuming this is true, we can definitely see one or the other.

I know but I don't see the first definition lending itself to a revamp. It feels too much of a stretch to me. Feels very much like a "I want to believe so everything is colored that way" sort of thing to me.

We'll see soon enough.

[Woggmer]

I get the druids of the flame can just be fyrakk focused
But hear me out:

Fyrakk is possibly the strongest being in terms of fire power now and the druids of the flame were chill in the firelands loving some ragnaros power.

Currently the new firelord as we are told in a BfA item is a ragnaros supporter and looking to bring him back and possibly shadowflame is that answer

Actually, ever since the Dark Iron acquisition quest to unlock them, the new Firelord suddenly vanished when the Cult of Ragneros came in, so we have no idea what he's doing or why the Druids of the Flame are involved with Fyrakk trying to attack this new world tree...

My only guess for why the Druids of the Flame are involved could be out of revenge for us killing Staghelm in the Firelands. (I say this because Staghelm was the original architect for Darnassus and Teldrassil.. he was the one responsible for growing both Teldrassil and Vordrassil, but at the result of causing a corruption within the Dream that would kickstart the Emerald Nightmare. So his followers would try to burn down this new tree out of revenge towards Tyrande and Malfurion for disrespecting Staghelm and his work.)

[Santandame]

Putting my hat into the ring as well for next expansion being us sailing to a new world/unknown frontier. I think the diplomat transmog is definitely a clue.

Exploration, new cultures, our own ships, pirates etc I see as the main themes.

It’s funny, I remember a several hundred pages back, lots of people in this thread were shitting on the idea of a heavy pirate themed expansion.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Pirates still don't interest me, but thats different to "new world" theme.

[Santandame]

Pirates still don't interest me, but thats different to "new world" theme.

I think they’d go pretty hand in hand. If there’s a new world with new riches to be had, then pirates are going to be making their way there.

Plus it’s already been seeded in in-game lore that Nightsquall is amassing the worlds largest pirate fleet to make sail for Avaloren - which is more than likely our new world.

Just have to face it, if we’re getting a new frontier exploration then we’re getting pirates. And as has been said numerous times, pirates aren’t just cartoonish caricatures that you see across some media.

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WoW finna get it's own Mayflower fr fr lmaooo

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Imagine the whole expac being the Cosmic Influences and guys of the Alliance and the Horde tryna provide manifest destiny, and conquer both the new territory, as well as the indigenous life within it.

I won’t lie. I understood zero of this.

[Revamp Man]

So the cat mount IIRC was Alexstraza related when revealed

What's up with this fish mount?

[Santandame]

Imagine the Void tryna spread its influence, or Order tryna spread it's influence, imagine Light fanatics going all crazy there and whatnot, imagine Life and Death fanatics going about shit, or even Demons tryna cause havoc across the new land. Just a whole calvary of chaos while the Heroes have to protect the land and its people from total conquest.

Imagine the forces of the Alliance and Horde also doing shit akin to this as well, or even becoming allies with the people there and whatnot. Some American expedition type shit.

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Prolly something we could see from the natives of the land beyond the waves?

I can’t imagine we’d need to protect them. If the land is Avaloren then the locals have beaten back several of Odyn’s previous expeditions there. To the point now where Odyn has told other Titanforged to avoid going there. If they’re making easy work of Titanforged, then they’re either a lot more powerful than us or at the very least, on par with us.

I’m still going with my theory that the Avaloren denizens are elemental themed races that reject Order, Void, Fel etc. Completely new races that both represent and revere Earth, Water, Fire, Air & Spirit magic.