The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Vakir]

Expac reveal is certain, Paladin very very likely. People thinking it drops tonight with new season is delusional part.

Oh, that's hysterical. Yeah, that happens every time with WoW as well. With the exception of the WSS due to telling us the timeframe and themes, every expansion reveal time we'd have people posting "wouldn't it be cool if they also told us that it would be available RIGHT NOW?? OMG!" while presumably scratching at their arms and neck.

[justwatching]

Yeah they've convinced themselves Paladin is shadowdropping.

[Joshuaj]

Did this Build get a coding heart attack or summ? Where is it?

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No Nelf and Belf exteriors this build. Pain!!!

[Cheezits]

The High Elf renown item icons are Silvermoonbloodelf_b.

[Joshuaj]

The High Elf renown item icons are Silvermoonbloodelf_b.

LMAO High Elf Allied Race believers are in the dirt!

[Ersula]

Yeah they've convinced themselves Paladin is shadowdropping.

wow it actually happened. Wish WoW could do something like that, instead of just acting like they do.

[justwatching]

wow it actually happened. Wish WoW could do something like that, instead of just acting like they do.

Yeah thats fucking crazy. The first time blizzard did something cool like that.

[Dracullus]

Oh, that's hysterical. Yeah, that happens every time with WoW as well. With the exception of the WSS due to telling us the timeframe and themes, every expansion reveal time we'd have people posting "wouldn't it be cool if they also told us that it would be available RIGHT NOW?? OMG!" while presumably scratching at their arms and neck.

You know what's better? 'Delusional' part turn out to be real. I guess its little different than our Ethereal dreams xD.

[Reive]

diablo still gets the cool blizzard cinematics

[Joshuaj]

Oh boy, Diablo! I can't wait to see wh-

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[Dracullus]

diablo still gets the cool blizzard cinematics

Cool concept, still both Midnight and this feels like budget for CGI was cut by Microsoft. Quality nowhere near to TWW and D4 launch/1st expac.

[Reive]

Cool concept, still both Midnight and this feels like budget for CGI was cut by Microsoft. Quality nowhere near to TWW and D4 launch/1st expac.

a guy on twitter that works on the models for the cinematics of both diablo and wow explained that tww had such a high quality because it didn't have any battles. they definitely have less budget for the cinematics now but this new diablo trailer still feels pretty good (blizzard got out-diablo'd by divinity tho)

[Vakir]

You know what's better? 'Delusional' part turn out to be real. I guess its little different than our Ethereal dreams xD.

...yeah that was kind of wild.

Diablo cinematic was fine, it just got beaten by Divinity as Reive said because, yeah, they're dealing with a different breed there. Also European sensibilities vs. American are very, very different.

[Jastall]

a guy on twitter that works on the models for the cinematics of both diablo and wow explained that tww had such a high quality because it didn't have any battles. they definitely have less budget for the cinematics now but this new diablo trailer still feels pretty good (blizzard got out-diablo'd by divinity tho)

Yeah, Divinity had more of a Diablo cinematic than Diablo did. It was still pretty good, mind, but Blizzard standards for cinematics are quite often above "pretty good".

[Aucald]

This thread isn't about Diablo or its cinematics, let's keep the thread on-topic.

[Joshuaj]

Does anyone have a lvl 8 House on the Beta? Apparently House sizes and types are in, but they're not unlocked. Though, at lvl 8 you can apparently unlock Medium sizes? Need someone to see if that's implemented yet or not!

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@Marlamin

You able to check and see?

[Enrif]

LMAO High Elf Allied Race believers are in the dirt!

i'm in camp "neutral blood elves will open up high elves", so that is still open

i could even see a "Vereesa: We the high elves now also name ourself blood elves to honor all the blood shed between us." thus creating alliance blood elves, which are just high elves. Would work perfectly.

[Lady Atia]

Has anyone gotten their D4 pre-order items yet? Really need that chess board for my bar

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i'm in camp "neutral blood elves will open up high elves", so that is still open

i could even see a "Vereesa: We the high elves now also name ourself blood elves to honor all the blood shed between us." thus creating alliance blood elves, which are just high elves. Would work perfectly.

Void elfs are High Elves, and Blood Elfs are High Elves. But both should get new hair styles and tattoos so we can cosplay Alleria.

But tbf, all races should get that, bare minimum, for TLT ...

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wow it actually happened. Wish WoW could do something like that, instead of just acting like they do.

I mean, we kiiiinda got that with Aug Evoker?

I think they main issue with shadowdropping new specs/classes for WoW is the same as with testing or not testing raid encounters or dungeons - the game as it currently stands, is too much aimed at being something "competitive" instead of being fun (I mean, I have fun, but you know hat I mean). If something gets added to D4 and is a bit overpowered or if a new boss is too easy / too hard, well it's not really an issue, is it? You can just go on harder difficulty layers and have your fun this way. Current wow doesn't work like that besides M+ but even than, normal people only care for the rewards tiers (so keystone legend, weekly keys and title), nothing else matters, while in D4 the game itself is the reward, so to speak. Like, I can play D4 without caring about other players difficulty because there are 0 rewards tied to difficulty itself. It's just, more xp, more loot, and doing harder things just because you can instead of being forced into FOMO - instead most of D4 cosmetics are tied to the store instead of "prestige".

The question is, what is the better system?

[Jaggler]

I mean, we kiiiinda got that with Aug Evoker?

I think they main issue with shadowdropping new specs/classes for WoW is the same as with testing or not testing raid encounters or dungeons - the game as it currently stands, is too much aimed at being something "competitive" instead of being fun (I mean, I have fun, but you know hat I mean). If something gets added to D4 and is a bit overpowered or if a new boss is too easy / too hard, well it's not really an issue, is it? You can just go on harder difficulty layers and have your fun this way. Current wow doesn't work like that besides M+ but even than, normal people only care for the rewards tiers (so keystone legend, weekly keys and title), nothing else matters, while in D4 the game itself is the reward, so to speak. Like, I can play D4 without caring about other players difficulty because there are 0 rewards tied to difficulty itself. It's just, more xp, more loot, and doing harder things just because you can instead of being forced into FOMO - instead most of D4 cosmetics are tied to the store instead of "prestige".

The question is, what is the better system?

Yeah, WoW is a game, that is way more dependant on group play than Diablo 4, which is mostly a solo experience. People are already up in arms about a 5% difference of performance between various specs, imagine if something vastly over or under-performs.

You really can't compare the two games at all.

Void elfs are High Elves, and Blood Elfs are High Elves. But both should get new hair styles and tattoos so we can cosplay Alleria.

But tbf, all races should get that, bare minimum, for TLT ...

No you see, Void Elves aren't acceptable as High Elves, because they just look like High Elves but there is the glaring difference that their tooltip says Void Elf. Now if Blood Elves were neutral, then the Alliance would have High Elves (which they already do) but their tooltip still doesn't say High Elves... wait...

So the plan is to rip out a core Horde race, to not solve a problem that doesn't even exist. That sounds like a great plan.

[Lady Atia]

Yeah, WoW is a game, that is way more dependant on group play than Diablo 4, which is mostly a solo experience. People are already up in arms about a 5% difference of performance between various specs, imagine if something vastly over or under-performs.

You really can't compare the two games at all.

Yeah, also we had an expansion with 0 seasonal rewards (Cataclysm), and in hinsight it was kinda wasted time to progress there since all my server first achievements are gone as some braindead idiot thought it was better to move them to guild achievements (for a guild that no longer exists :X), instead of giving the players something as well. I mean, one could argue that if WoW switched to the D4 model, store items would be seasonal and only available during a specific patch but than again, they literally just brought the longboy 2.0 back instead of creating something new so ...