The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Darkarath]

And to no surprise, today's 10.1.7 build is a release build as well.

Hype out of control.

Tomorrow might be a good day

[Catastrophy349]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...692187996?s=20

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11.0! 11.0! 11.0!

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Can we get a dataminer to confirm/speculate on whether or not this "preorder stuff" means a 10.2 is more likely AFTER Blizzcon, now?

[Darkarath]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...692187996?s=20

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11.0! 11.0! 11.0!

Epic edition it is for me then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Cheezits]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...692187996?s=20

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11.0! 11.0! 11.0!

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Can we get a dataminer to confirm/speculate on whether or not this "preorder stuff" means a 10.2 is more likely AFTER Blizzcon, now?

Now I'm VERY curious about the fate of 10.3.

[Catastrophy349]

I'm convinced 10.2's PTR is coming the week of 10.1.7's release now.

What's another two weeks at this point? Play 10.1.7 story, then get HYPE for 10.2. Win-Win regardless!

[Cheezits]

Looks like we're getting some more Infinite Dragonflight lore. NVM it's the ensemble from Hard Mode.

[StrayFromThePath]

We sacrificed Shadowlands for this release cadence. Like how WoD was sacrificed for Legion. Worth?

I personally would not say so but that is my opinion that warlords of Draenor was a good expansion for player-vs-environment only players like myself

[Ersula]

...But we freed him once we defeated Helya in her realm in the Trials of Valor. She was the only thing keeping him in the Halls of Valor.

All that did was free the souls she was keeping emprisoned; what Odyn originally did to her made her impossible to kill. So she's still doing that, though clearly his opinion of mortals have changed, so it really doesn't matter.

Now I'm VERY curious about the fate of 10.3.

You know the pre-order rewards for the next expansion usually come out before the final major patch, actually. This is normal.

I personally would not say so but that is my opinion that warlords of Draenor was a good expansion for player-vs-environment only players like myself

You might as well said "Disregard my opinion, I play wow like its minecraft"

[StrayFromThePath]

You might as well said "Disregard my opinion, I play wow like its minecraft"

just the same to your essential "disregard me, I invalidate posters because i don't offer much anywhere else"

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

looks like 11.0 is coming in august

[Well Done Steak]

looks like 11.0 is coming in august

What makes you say that?

[Imotbh]

Can we get a dataminer to confirm/speculate on whether or not this "preorder stuff" means a 10.2 is more likely AFTER Blizzcon, now?

Preorder isn't related to 10.2.

Now I'm VERY curious about the fate of 10.3.

New expansion are always announced ~1 year before their release. Blizzcon is in November => 11.0 announcement => 11.0 release roughly in November 2024 and the 2-year cycle is respected as usual. If anything, it confirms even more that there will be a 10.3 in the meantime (as if it was ever a doubt).

looks like 11.0 is coming in august

Stop it.

[Foolicious]

You know the pre-order rewards for the next expansion usually come out before the final major patch, actually. This is normal.

So this also means 10.2 won't launch before blizzcon right? If they would plan on doing that they wouldn't put preorder bundles in last minute or am i seeing this wrong?

[enak101]

So this also means 10.2 won't launch before blizzcon right? If they would plan on doing that they wouldn't put preorder bundles in last minute or am i seeing this wrong?

I agree with this. Why push pre-order data to 10.1.7 build unless 10.1.7 is still the live build on xpac announce.

10.2 = november 6/7 imo.

[Ersula]

So this also means 10.2 won't launch before blizzcon right? If they would plan on doing that they wouldn't put preorder bundles in last minute or am i seeing this wrong?

Maybe. Maybe not. Since the beginning of the year the 2023 roadmap displayed "10.1.7 in autumn. 10.2 before the end of the year." So it might come out a little before or a little after Blizzcon: Which is why they're making sure the pre-order prep is in 10.1.7

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Better not mean no 10.3

[Hitei]

New expansion are always announced ~1 year before their release. Blizzcon is in November => 11.0 announcement => 11.0 release roughly in November 2024 and the 2-year cycle is respected as usual. If anything, it confirms even more that there will be a 10.3 in the meantime (as if it was ever a doubt).

This isn't really accurate. Dragonflight was announced seven months before it was released.

Assuming similar turn around for 11.0, the 4-5 month patch cadence we've been getting so far this expansion would put 10.2.7 2-3 months before 11.0... which is exactly the same timing we got between 9.2.7 and 10.0

[Ersula]

This isn't really accurate. Dragonflight was announced seven months before it was released.

Only because Dragonflight was announced unusually late: His point was every expansion has, on average, a 2 year rotation, which is completely true. 20 years, 10 expansions.

Near the end, the 10.0 speculation thread was rife with absolutely deranged theories that 10.0 wasn't coming until late 2023/2024.

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Assuming similar turn around for 11.0, the 4-5 month patch cadence we've been getting so far this expansion would put 10.2.7 2-3 months before 11.0... which is exactly the same timing we got between 9.2.7 and 10.0

What are you talking about? Dragonflight's major patches have been much closer together than Shadowland's. Dragonflight's third raid tier has just been pushed to vendor so we're about 3 months ahead of Shadowland's schedule. Given there's no reason to think they're breaking the tradition (7 out of 9 of the expansions) of announcing an expansion at Blizzcon that releases about a year later, we'll get another raid tier in the first half of 2024.

[KyleEverett]

I'm not sold on a 10.3 at this point and signs keep pointing to no. The fastest Blizzard has gotten from a final patch to an expansion was Shadowlands 9.2 to 10.0 at just 8 months. Even if we're generous with the timeline and say 11.0 goes live in November with a December expansion launch and January season 1, the latest 10.3 could be out is March. My gut says they want this expac out before the 20th anniversary Blizzcon next year which bumps that timeline up to October/November like Dragonflight. That'd require a February last patch again. I just don't see a world we go from a Mid November Season 3 to a Season 4 just 3 months later. Even March is just 4 months and even season 1 had 5 months.

10.3 requires them to somehow develop an entire expansion in just 6 months or less which they have never done before.

[leothar]

10.3 requires them to somehow develop an entire expansion in just 6 months or less which they have never done before.

They can develop multiple things at the same time. They likely started on 11.0 long before Dragonflight released.