The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

Do you remember how it went for 10.1? I think we had encrypted builds for 1 or 2 weeks before the announcement. Is that possible?

I wouldn't be surprised if we see it revealed and dropped very close together, but not gonna dare throw a date/week out there.

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https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/...988106908?s=20

This is not a drill!

Neat cinematic!

[Cheezits]

No big loredrop, but nice to see they are handling the Vryanoth and Fyrakk thing well and it isn't a heel turn. Also I like how they feel like proper siblings.

[Darkarath]

Fyrakk for president ¡¡

I was not expecting a confrontation this soon... I really really hope that they do not follow that path

Awesome cinematic that is for sure ¡¡

Now we only have left the cinematic about Shandris and us spying on the Incarnates, right? Tyr stuff and the heritage armors minor cinematics.

So... now that they have stated clearly in this cinematic that a confrontation is happening and that the Emerald Dream is next... 10.2 PTR tonight or tomorrow????

HYPE TRAIN LETS GOOOOOO ¡¡¡¡

[Worldshaper]

That cinematic was really nice. As usual, it doesn't move the story forward by that much. But it was a visual treat, and the voice acting was great!

The definition of: "that escalated quickly," though.

[Catastrophy349]

Speculation, assemble!

[Marlamin]

Only goes to show that "This week in WoW" shouldn't be trusted.

[Worldshaper]

So...

Fyrakk wants a power within the new world tree.

What specific power is that? The power of life? The power of death? Elune's power? Ysera's power? The Winter Queen's power?

[Cheezits]

Speculation, assemble!

Only thing I can speculate is that Fyrakk is truly the final boss of 10.2, and if Vyranoth is the final boss it's gonna require something odd going on.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

nothing much to speculate here really - vyranoth will go against her brother and survives or fyrakk will kill her mad with power then alex finishes fyrakk in a cinematic.

[Lady Atia]

Do we know anything about the promotion today? I hope it's something a little meatier than the recent ones for Ukraine and Twitch. Maybe a store mog or mount that is a clue about the future?

It seems like the promotion is just a cheeper boost for lvl 60 / a bundle for 3 boosts haha.

[Makabreska]

Predictable stuff. Fyrakk going apeshit due to shadowflame and Vyranoth being the one who could sway our way was the most predictable outcome.

[Cheezits]

So...

Fyrakk wants a power within the new world tree.

What specific power is that? The power of life? The power of death? Elune's power? Ysera's power? The Winter Queen's power?

I'm guessing the seed can be reverse-engineered for some kind or reorigination purpose. Or it has something to do with using Elune and WQ energies to fight the Titans.

That or Uldaz is in the Dream and it's some kind of Forge of Origination 2.0 (maybe that's the copy of it in the Dream? Would be pretty funny)

[Sondrelk]

nothing much to speculate here really - vyranoth will go against her brother and survives or fyrakk will kill her mad with power then alex finished fyrakk in a cinematic.

Seems like a case where she will leave the Incarnates at some point, and then either join us or more likely not be hostile by the end of the expansion.

As I have mentioned before, the element infused red dragon egg still hasn't gotten any kind of resolution, and with Alexstrasza and Vyranoths past it seems like the perfect bridge for them to find common cause over.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ok, that cinematic was REALLY cool!

[Catastrophy349]

Only goes to show that "This week in WoW" shouldn't be trusted.

They never announce when the cinematics drop, though. They all dropped 12-15 days prior to patch launching, except for this one.

[Marlamin]

Do we know anything about the promotion today? I hope it's something a little meatier than the recent ones for Ukraine and Twitch. Maybe a store mog or mount that is a clue about the future?

It's this I think.

They never announce when the cinematics drop, though. They all dropped 12-15 days prior to patch launching, except for this one.

Exactly, so not all of it is in there.

[Santandame]

There are ways to seed conflict but not with the characters we currently have unless some one like Turyalon does a 180 and they throw away every that has been done with him since legion.

So yes while it is a writers job to create the story it’s a good writers job to properly set the stage and develop it properly which hasn’t happened at all.

Injecting conflict just for the sake of it with no set up is just bad writing.

You say that as if the story in WoW isn’t pretty bad as it is from a writing perspective.

A few ideas outside of the House of Lords conflict though:

- Now the Manari are joining the Draenei, whilst some Draenei welcome them back with open arms, many of the Draenei people are outraged at Veblen for allowing them back into the fold. The Lightforged are also dead against this and relations within Draenei society as well as those with the Lightforged begin to break down. Turalyon initially open to accepting the Manari coming back into the fold begins to allow himself to be influenced by Yrel who has just shown up (peacefully at first) and begins to reflect on traumatic experiences during his thousand year war with the Legion.

- After a time skip, Dagran Thaussarian comes of age. He turns out to be a mean spirited boy/young Dwarf. He retains some of his fathers malice and is aghast that Dwarves, children of the Titans are playing second fiddle in the Alliance to the humans and secretly plots in the background to upend power from Stormwind and become the major power of the Alliance.

- Whilst Tyrande has forgiven the Horde and is beginning to advocate for lasting peace, many Night Elves do not. Whilst not being outwardly hostile, they are aggressively pushing for more and more militaristic power and openly harbour resentment towards Stormwind for not helping them as much as they could have done during the Fourth War. A new political faction seeks to depose of Tyrande.

There’s several avenues to go down.

[Sondrelk]

Predictable stuff. Fyrakk going apeshit due to shadowflame and Vyranoth being the one who was coul to sway our way was the most predictable outcome.

I dunno about the Shadow flame. I saw it more as Fyrakk having grown more radical over time, whereas Vyranoth still has her old goals in mind above all else.

[Cheezits]

It's this I think.

That is so on the nose with the "LOL PIRATES" that I wonder if they are doing it to troll Bellular and the gang.

[Sondrelk]

I'm guessing the seed can be reverse-engineered for some kind or reorigination purpose. Or it has something to do with using Elune and WQ energies to fight the Titans.

That or Uldaz is in the Dream and it's some kind of Forge of Origination 2.0 (maybe that's the copy of it in the Dream? Would be pretty funny)

I am going to go straight ahead here and assume it's just going to be because it's infused with lots of energy.
Take its power stretched to it's logical extreme.