The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Gurahk]

Mines are wide open

Sweet, hoping to wake up for some nice info.

[Throren]

Stiven datamined this new HD tauren totem, I really hope it's a cosmetic weapon


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Doggo mounts as well!
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dat...-10-0-7-331248

[Kokolums]

Stiven datamined this new HD tauren totem, I really hope it's a cosmetic weapon


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Doggo mounts as well!
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dat...-10-0-7-331248

a totem pole is something like a family crest or shield, meant to inspire others and inform. i think some native american tribes could he HIGHLY offended if it was used as a weapon.

[Throren]

a totem pole is something like a family crest or shield, meant to inspire others and inform. i think some native american tribes could he HIGHLY offended if it was used as a weapon.

Using the totem as a weapon is something the tauren have always done, it was one of their main weapons in Wc3, and multiple tauren npcs in game from vanilla all the way to the present day have used them including Cairne himself or the original cinematic tauren. It's like the tauren's most signature weapon in lore, like axes for orc, or hammers/guns for dwarves

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Using the totem as a weapon is something the tauren have always done, it was one of their main weapons in Wc3, and multiple tauren npcs in game from vanilla all the way to the present day have used them including Cairne himself. It's like the tauren's most signature weapon in lore, like axes for orc, or hammers/guns for dwarves

Yeah Totems are pretty iconic to taurens being used as weapons. I don't think there's any offense going to be taken.

[Cheezits]

Stiven datamined this new HD tauren totem, I really hope it's a cosmetic weapon

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Doggo mounts as well!
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dat...-10-0-7-331248

If not a weapon, then an exciting world revamp hint IMO. Why else would there be a totem (that's not primalist)?

called it with instant bakkar mounts.

[Throren]

Three recolours available for each of the orc and Human heritage sets

[Kokolums]

Using the totem as a weapon is something the tauren have always done, it was one of their main weapons in Wc3, and multiple tauren npcs in game from vanilla all the way to the present day have used them including Cairne himself or the original cinematic tauren. It's like the tauren's most signature weapon in lore, like axes for orc, or hammers/guns for dwarves

that was before current day.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

that was before current day.

That pic is literally from WC3 reforged, nothing has changed with Tauren in current day.

[Throren]

that was before current day.

Considering they have tauren still in game that use them, some added as late as BFA, Tauren in Reforged, and Cairne in the new Warcraft Arclight rumble game that use totem as a weapon (and that game isn't even out yet) I think it's safe to assume no one finds any offense at totems being used as a weapon and taht idea isn't going anywhere

[Foolicious]

Earth Elemental and Primal Earth Elemental no longer taunt or pulse threat to enemies that are attacking a player with a tank specialization.

Why?? I always assumed that was the intended use for earth elemental.

Does this mean that if you did Balance of Power on one class you get the BoP appearance on all classes?

Not quite. You still have to do the quest on every class how i read it. But the additional colours are unlocked account wide. So you don't have to kill a thousand players on different chars for example.

[Kyojuro]

Not quite. You still have to do the quest on every class how i read it. But the additional colours are unlocked account wide. So you don't have to kill a thousand players on different chars for example.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1620585561487716352

[Revamp Man]

If game is bad or not is subjective opinion.

But if game is rushed you have clear signs. DF was playable day 1, same with season 1 - of course there are always bugs, but let's say Legion that was like opposite of 'rushed' had ton of them as well. No zones or anything from reveal was cut. And most important, if expac is rushed, patch content is delayed. So no, if ex Blizzard dev will say that 1+1 is 4, I won't believe it either (didn't he also say that Wrath is rushed? which makes even less sense, it's basically ready content, Beta last like 2 months for these things).



So you prefer 5 months of nothing instead small patches? Well, that's basically killed SL good press.

EDIT: Balance of Power account wide! Now I wait only for account wide skin for 10 rated battlegrounds, so I finally will bother to do it on single character xD.

Clear signs like the people who made it saying it was a rushed development

[Murlocos]

Acknowledging that the expansion was pushed out sooner than the development team wanted (which has been admitted verbatim by former employees) isn't mutually exclusive with still enjoying the end product and appreciating the work put in. I would consider BfA to have been rushed in several ways as well, the difference being that constituted key expansion features receiving barely any testing and gave us things like Warfronts having zero fun factor to them or Azerite armor being fundamentally broken. I much prefer DF being buggier than normal over the core systems of the game falling apart two months in. I only hope this increased content cadence and player response is being driven by a more motivated and united team, and not one being pressured into nonstop crunch.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Clear signs like the people who made it saying it was a rushed development

A game being rushed doesn’t really mean much to rather it’s ready to launch or not every studio that uses church time is rushing development but that doesn’t mean all of the games they put out aren’t ready to lunch.

Without further context it being rushed could just mean the staff had to church to hit the ready point or that it was put out before the ready point we have no way to know.

Both are bad but only one is reflected on the players.

[Darkarath]

10.0.7 brings interesting stuff. I am really curious about the Zul'gurub recipes. Maybe they are reintroducing the faction? Some time travel thing? We will see.

Primordial gems really worries me, though. We will have to see how it works, but it seems that they cannot live without adding another useless system of borrowed power for a patch, which is pretty sad. If this new system is something even remotely close to Domination Shards they are out of their fucking minds and completely out of touch with the players.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Three recolours available for each of the orc and Human heritage sets

Huh, nice. I like how they're remembering the clans for the modern Orcs. This is something they've forgotten to acknowledge for some time. It may just be because they thought it would line up with the Mag'har Heritage Armor, but it's still nice to see.

The conspiracy theorist in me is also oddly fixated on the specific choice of the word "scarlet". Obviously, it could be nothing and the armor is simply scarlet-colored, but it still sticks out due to the history of that word having a particular connotation on Azeroth.

[Super Dickmann]

The conspiracy theorist in me is also oddly fixated on the specific choice of the word "scarlet". Obviously, it could be nothing and the armor is simply scarlet-colored, but it still sticks out due to the history of that word having a particular connotation on Azeroth.

Given the name of the orc scenario is the Old Frostwolf it's likely it'll be about Drekthar keeling over and those three clans are the only ones that're vaguely distinct over on Azeroth.

As for Scarlets, they've had false starts on Scarlet questlines for two expansions now, perhaps Dragonflight will be the third. I've zero faith Blizzard would be able to use them as either a human ally or Forsaken antagonist which is the natural direction to take given the aversion to conflict and putting them in the human heritage scenario makes little sense given how little relation they have to STormwind, but what can you do.

Also lol, upcoming Baine questline vs. centaur completely unrelated to the ones that victimized his people. If only the Maruuk were tauren, the way they were written.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Also lol, upcoming Baine questline vs. centaur completely unrelated to the ones that victimized his people. If only the Maruuk were tauren, the way they were written.

I mean, given that the Centaur we've been introduced to in the Dragon Isles are so disconnected from the Centaur elsewhere that their very existence creates a continuity error, I figure it would have been significantly more cohesive with prior lore if they were Tauren, especially given their culture is also effectively Tauren and there is effectively no reason for them not to be Tauren given that they're a nomadic race who could well have at some point set sail for the Dragon Isles and who are probably more inclined to worship Wild Gods than the bastard children of an elemental and a deer.

As for Scarlets, they've had false starts on Scarlet questlines for two expansions now, perhaps Dragonflight will be the third. I've zero faith Blizzard would be able to use them as either a human ally or Forsaken antagonist which is the natural direction to take given the aversion to conflict and putting them in the human heritage scenario makes little sense given how little relation they have to STormwind, but what can you do.

True. If I were to expect the Scarlet Crusade to appear, I'd certainly be more inclined to hedge my bets on them popping up somewhere related to Lordaeron rather than in connection to an entirely different kingdom. It's most likely just scarlet-colored (or, knowing Blizzard, likely an entirely different shade of red that they randomly labeled as scarlet) rather than having anything to do with the Scarlet Crusade—the word simply stuck out to me because it has such a strong association. Unless Turalyon decides to lean his sweet head over for an unceremonious, arc-destroying, and thoroughly unwanted villain batting and outright integrate the Scarlet Crusade into the Alliance military, I'm leaning towards the idea that it's just the name sticking out rather than an actual indicator of Scarlet influence.

Given the name of the orc scenario is the Old Frostwolf it's likely it'll be about Drekthar keeling over and those three clans are the only ones that're vaguely distinct over on Azeroth.

Maybe they'll bring something remotely palatable out of the decision to expunge the Warchief role for good by making this bit about the reassertion of individual clan identity in the absence of a singular de-facto clan and leader?

[BaumanKing]

Blue - Stormwind.
Scarlet - Stromgarde (the banners that Stromgarde soldiers raise when Danath is the Warfront commander reuse the Scarlet Onslaught banner model).
White - Lordaeron.
The last two nation colors correspond to the last two kingdoms that have basically become vassal states of Stormwind.