1. #13721
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Weird, I don’t see Pirates, Azshara, or Void on the main art for BfA.
    Bfa could have marketed way better with anyone of them. Making it all about the faction war was a stupid decision to appeal to the classic crowd. And it didn't even work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    ???????

    Those things are all thematically linked.
    And they all happened in BFA.

  3. #13723
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Weird, I don’t see Pirates, Azshara, or Void on the main art for BfA.


    Checkmate.

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    Checkmate.
    Oh damn you got me
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post

    Weird, I don’t see Pirates, Azshara, or Void on the main art for BfA.
    Yeah, because it was a thematic mess. However, Kul’Tiras was still a big part of it, and it was loaded with pirate junk.

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    I dunno who said it but a expansion where both Alliance and Horde are doing something(And not having innter conflict/ fighting each other) sounds like a good idea to me.
    #TeamLegion #UnderEarthofAzerothexpansion plz #Arathor4Alliance #TeamNoBlueHorde

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  7. #13727
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, because it was a thematic mess. However, Kul’Tiras was still a big part of it, and it was loaded with pirate junk.
    DF has tuskaar, instantly must mean it’s like Wotlk because it has Tuskaar right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

  8. #13728
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    The Cosmic Chart is how we map out our Cosmology tho, no?
    And like any map, it only includes what is known at the time. The most recent chart predates the 7th force being introduced, and we still don't actually know what the force even is, so mapping it would be... "difficult".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, because it was a thematic mess. However, Kul’Tiras was still a big part of it, and it was loaded with pirate junk.
    No, it still wasn't. Pirates were a side theme at most. It wasn't even majority nautical despite being most well-known as a seafarer country.

  9. #13729
    Quote Originally Posted by loras View Post
    Parts i seem to recognise.
    Dr.Who?
    "Doctor" = Dr. Schrodinger. Schrodinger's Cat was supposed to be in a state of superposition (i.e. two states that would usually be exclusive at once). The implication was that temporal collapse would lead to multiple timelines happening simultaneously, even the parts that are mutually-exclusive. It didn't have any substantial effect on Azshara ("missing" a fish), but brought over Yrel ("caught" a goat).
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  10. #13730
    Oh, boy. What are we all getting into a fuss over, now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    No, it still wasn't. Pirates were a side theme at most. It wasn't even majority nautical despite being most well-known as a seafarer country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    DF has tuskaar, instantly must mean it’s like Wotlk because it has Tuskaar right?
    Please explain how a friendly pirate city would be any different aesthetically from the non-drustvar portions of Kul’Tiras.

    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    I wouldn't say it was "pirate themed", more like had a substantial nautical secondary theme which heavily included pirates, the primary theme being faction conflict
    Bingo. Further it proved that a pirate/nautical theme is not strong enough to support an expansion.
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  12. #13732
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Namely we're debating on whether BFA was pirate themed or not. I personally think it wasn't.
    I wouldn't say it was "pirate themed", more like had a substantial nautical secondary theme which heavily included pirates, the primary theme being faction conflict

  13. #13733
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, because it was a thematic mess. However, Kul’Tiras was still a big part of it, and it was loaded with pirate junk.
    Two story chapters in one zone, a dungeon and a minor quest hub in another.
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  14. #13734
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Thanks for that completely random list of names.
    I fail to see how that changes my point that hp numbers are completely arbitrary.

    Here i'll add some more:

    Betty
    Haris Pilton
    Thrall
    Jennifer O'Neal
    Anduin
    Sunflower

    And i'm sure N'zoth is gonna show up again at some point, but i'd say it would happen because of an actual lore reason and not because of a random number positioned somewhere on your screen.

    If you fail to see the link between these names when I say that N'zoth is still alive and fight ends at 2.5%, then all of this was complete waste of time.

    Have a nice evening.

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    Give me something with the Void and I'll be a happy camper!

  16. #13736
    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    Oh, boy. What are we all getting into a fuss over, now?
    Just feels like Teriz is on the windup at this point.

  17. #13737
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    BFA wasn't even that crazy in regards to pirates. Kul'tiras has a Navy, sure, but they weren't "pirates" per say. Freehold was the only real major Pirate-related thing.
    Wasn't as major but there was also that hub in Stormsong that was basically a pirate hangout, just on land, as I recall.

    Anyways I used to be on the "BfA was pirate themed" side but after time to mull it over, it was a B-plot at best (probably more C-plot, really).

  18. #13738
    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    I wouldn't say it was "pirate themed", more like had a substantial nautical secondary theme which heavily included pirates, the primary theme being faction conflict
    The primary theme was faction war. The secondary theme was Old Gods.

    Whilst the nautical theme played a decent part in BfA at times, to say it majorly involved pirates is just false.

    Pirates were apart of one dungeon, two chapters in one zone, a minor quest hub in one and a minor part of the War Campaign for Horde in another zone.

    This is like saying a major theme of Legion was the undead elves from Black Rook Hold and Val’sharrah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Wasn't as major but there was also that hub in Stormsong that was basically a pirate hangout, just on land, as I recall.

    Anyways I used to be on the "BfA was pirate themed" side but after time to mull it over, it was a B-plot at best (probably more C-plot, really).
    Not even a D-plot. Faction war, N’Zoth & Azshara, the Drust, Ghuun /w the blood trolls, Jaina becoming Lord Admiral and Rastakhan’s deal with Bwonsamdi are all higher on the totem pole than pirates in terms of BfA story threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    Two story chapters in one zone.
    The heritage of Kul'tiras....


  20. #13740
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The heritage of Kul'tiras....

    They aren’t pirates though.



    DAE pirates???
    Last edited by Santandame; 2023-09-03 at 12:13 AM.

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