The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

One big thing pointing to an Elemental and/or revamp expansion: they are being incredibly cagey about Magatha's status, considering the Grimtotem presence with the Primalists.

[Catastrophy349]

I can't wait for 10.1.7 to release tomorrow so we can talk about SOMETHING ELSE!

[Civciv]

I wonder if Merithra's gonna get a new model tomorrow...

[Cheezits]

I can't wait for 10.1.7 to release tomorrow so we can talk about SOMETHING ELSE!

I guarantee the Night Elf questline will have something people don't like and it will be the major shitstorm/ragebait for the next few days, at least until 10.2 announcement.

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I wonder if Merithra's gonna get a new model tomorrow...

Probably. The real burning question: will Shandris?

[Catastrophy349]

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I guarantee the Night Elf questline will have something people don't like and it will be the major shitstorm/ragebait for the next few days, at least until 10.2 announcement.

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Probably. The real burning question: will Shandris?

BURNING QUESTION!!! AHHHHH!!!

[huth]

Dragonflight is no more elemental themed than WoD was Legion themed and then we immediately got Legion after WoD. So I completely disagree. Not saying 11.0 is Elemental themed but it could be.

DF is most certainly more elemental themed than WoD was Legion themed. Legion themes were mainly in 6.2, with only minor occurances in 6.0. Elements are everywhere in 10.0 and 10.1.

[Luck4]

Here's a fun conversation: I hear A LOT of people (basically everywhere and anywhere) discussing "World Revamp" as a talking point. To anyone willing to respond, what version of a "world revamp" would you like to see (because to many different people it means different things)?

I want a revamp that would allow Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms to be used again in future expansions if it fits the narrative, to avoid a situation like Amirdrassil in Dragon Isles, the Horde leaders having a meeting in Stormsong, the Legion Invasions only happening in Broken Isles when it was supposedly happening everywhere, you got the idea.

A revamp that would renew Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms in a constructive way, instead of a destructive revamp like we had in Cataclysm.

[Civciv]

Burning questions : Will Ysera do something? Reunite with Alextrasza?

[Catastrophy349]

Burning questions : Will Ysera do something? Reunite with Alextrasza?

What's with all of the BURNING jokes?!?!?!

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I want a revamp that would allow Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms to be used again in future expansions if it fits the narrative, to avoid a situation like Armidrassil in Dragon Isles, the Horde leaders having a meeting in Stormsong, the Legion Invasions only happening in Broken Isles when it was supposedly happening everywhere, you got the idea.

A revamp that would renew Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms in a constructive way, instead of a destructive revamp like we had in Cataclysm.

Alexstrasza did say that "the world is healing" in the Dragonflight cinematic (meaning the whole of Azeroth, so.....).

[Civciv]

What's with all of the BURNING jokes?!?!?!

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Alexstrasza did say that "the world is healing" in the Dragonflight cinematic (meaning the whole of Azeroth, so.....).

Sorry.... can't stop myself.

[Reive]

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i hate how they fucked up the new model of kalecgos. the blue dragonflight should have wings that reach the tail. kalecgos has that on the concept art, but doesn't in game. it's a shame because that is such an unique feature to have

[Luck4]

Qwik on twitter: No pirates.

https://x.com/qwik/status/1698517913...WrsOhSSDZQB1vA

I think we've been over this twice at this point, maybe 3 times.

[Catastrophy349]

By this time tomorrow, we will either be celebrating or arguing over NEW LORE from 10.1.7. Exciting times!

[Teriz]

Azshara, Xal'atath, all the Void elf characters and Ethereal characters? How is that not enough to ground us?

Again, Draenor had an anchor because we had Illidan and Kael'theas and we also had two well-established playable races that came from that planet with loads of lore and prominent characters.

The Ethereal homeworld or us going into some cosmic void location would be more off-putting than Shadowlands.

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My blud, we had anchor "antagonists" in Shadowlands. Anduin and Sylvanas are right there lmaooo

Anduin was kidnapped, so he wasn't an anchor, he was someone we had to save. Sylvanas wasn't from the Shadowlands and she was surrounded by a mystery box for a good portion of the expansion.

[EubenHadd]

So.. here's a wild thought. We still go to Avaloren. But it's not pirates. Instead, it's back to more classic Titan themed stuff, but this time, we wind up helping those dwarves that were resisting the Titans, and we wind up with Odin himself as a raid end boss. This then breaks stuff enough that we wind up opening the gateway for more Void.

[Ersula]

If they just do a graphical refresh with tech/models from post-Cata expansions, add/update a few quests here and there and then expand on existing zones, I don't think there would be much of a reason to stay in the old world in that case. If they do ever do something cataclysmic/as big again it'll be something to consider, but I still think it'd be a bad idea to fragment the game like that;

For clients, keeping around the old world as is would create effectively two copies of the world and the assets that didn't get 'revamped' in it, adding many more gigabytes to the client. The pre-Cataclysm world in 4.0.1 (OldWorld.MPQ for those that remember) was already ~2GB before it was removed post-release, the post-Cataclysm one is probably much larger in size.

Every Expansion adds about 2 gigs to the client. If its really that hard to phase EK & Kalimdor, then they'd just create a new version as a completely separate zone. Baldur's Gate 3 was 150 Gigabites. Computers in 2023 start at one terabite. I don't think the client being too big is a serious concern.

By this time tomorrow, we will either be celebrating or arguing over NEW LORE from 10.1.7. Exciting times!

I was thinking it was weird that the Eredar customization is timegated one week. What's the reason for that? Could it be that something in the quest spoils the premise of 10.2? And they plan on 10.2 to be revealed between the 5th & the 12th? That's consistent with the Vendor arriving a week ago.

I guarantee the Night Elf questline will have something people don't like and it will be the major shitstorm/ragebait for the next few days, at least until 10.2 announcement.

I would include a note from Sylvanas just to enrage people.

"I got bored with my cosmic punishment so I left. Gotta love the honor system, amirite? Love, Sylvanas"

[FossilFree]

If it's pirates, it better have Devil Fruits. One of each type per server, granting permanent new abilities. You lose it upon death, and it goes back into rotation for another person to find. Also, you can't swim anymore if you eat one.

[Chickat]

Xe'ra wasn't in pieces when we found her.

She was just chilling in the Xenedar.

She was missing her Core, but that's because she literally sent it to Azeroth herself.



Meanwhile, Velen calls her dead twice after Illidan destroys her.

Also wasn't she literally disintegrated into dust when she got eye beamed? I doubt she could be put back together.

[Marlamin]

Every Expansion adds about 2 gigs to the client. If its really that hard to phase EK & Kalimdor, then they'd just create a new version as a completely separate zone.

I mean, if you want to split hairs, there is no technical difference between terrain phasing to a changed zone and making a separate new version (although that can be larger than the phased zone), they'd be effectively the same thing when it comes to storage at the end of the day. New expansions are also far larger than just 2GB.

[Chickat]

Provided they are good puzzles, sure. Sometimes Blizzard's choice of puzzles make me wanna choke them.


As for big powerful threats, they need to come back at least eventually but really I think what hurts is Blizzard not being able to balance Serious tone and then having overly Niffen esque tones. 10.1 could of been served better if there was more focus on Deathwing and the Black Dragonflight with little drips of humor/lightheartedness, not make it a semi focal point(Sillyness). Sorry, thats just how I feel.

The ones in Zerith Motis were awful, but I enjoyed the ones from Nazjatar and most other places.

The ones from the Time Rift Event are simple and fun too.

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If 11.0 is elements can we please give the random Chinese guy who predicted every expansion correctly credit?
That way we can stop punching eachother for things like "nobody knows so I'm right"

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Plus I wouldn't even say pirates are beneath us
Our power in every expansion since WoD has canonical been magic items and temporary blessings that fade

Yeah, the player character at this point is like Malfurion/Thrall tier or even slightly below them in power scaling, but without magic items People like Garrosh, Lich King, Azshara, are still way too powerful for us to solo and are good Raid end bosses still.